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Allright, without digging up the old articles I referred to, the following. But before I say the following, I note one important thing: These articles don't seem to link to the actual studies. Because of that, I can only rely on my general knowledge and the things the articles say about the studies. I cannot counter the article's claims about the studies with direct specificity.
They generally bear out my point: it wouldn't be wise to advocate driving while stoned, but generally support points 3-3e in post #43
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1. Driving while high on marijuana causing spike in fatal accidents - TODAY.com
States: “In Washington, only looking at crashes in which at least one driver tested positive for active THC, there were 40 fatalities in 2010, compared to 85 in 2014, according to AAA estimates.”
Fails to recognize that urine tests detect marijuana up to 28 days after a use and up to 3 months in blood. CITE.
Relies on nothing else. WORTHLESS.
2. Fatal accidents involving stoned drivers soared in Washington since pot was legalized - May. 10, 2016
The same mistake. Refers to marijuana being “involved in” accidents when “involved in” means only testing positive. See above facts about what that means.
Also notes: “One driver with high levels of THC might not be impaired, while another driver with very low levels can be impaired.” And “a different study, by the Transportation Department, which found that drivers who drivers who are drunk have a much greater increase in the risk of being in an accident than drivers who used marijuana.”
Makes explicit earlier point that: “having THC in your system tells us nothing about your potential impairment, it would be like a report showing how many people involved in accidents had drunk a beer in the last week” but also noting that the group responsible for this statement said “all motorists should avoid driving while impaired,”
3. Marijuana playing larger role in fatal crashes
Again, refers to a statistic about marijuana “contribut[ing] to” an accident when that just means one of the drivers tested positive, which again means use in the last 1-3 months, NOT current intoxication.
4. Cannabis and motor vehicle crashes | BC Medical Journal
In fact notes that while there are some areas of impairment with marijuana use, the risk is worse with drunk drivers. Notes that marijuana intoxicated drivers have better responses to complex things like interpreting/anticipating traffic patterns, but have worse responses to highly automated tasks, but also, that the latter point results in their embracing coping strategies like slower and less aggressive driving.
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6. Post-legalization, marijuana-related fatal crashes double in Washington - Autoblog
Notes: “While increases in blood-alcohol content correlate with decreases in driving abilities, there's no such correlation with THC, the active component of marijuana, in the bloodstream. AAA says there is no scientific evidence that drivers perform more poorly behind the wheel at a certain level of marijuana use.” And “It's simply not possible today to determine whether a driver is impaired based solely on the amount of the drug in their body."”
Notes: “The number of deaths in the state per 100 million miles traveled increased from 0.78 in 2012 to 0.80 in 2014, a small increase” but without any correlation to marijuana specifically
They generally bear out my point: it wouldn't be wise to advocate driving while stoned, but generally support points 3-3e in post #43
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1. Driving while high on marijuana causing spike in fatal accidents - TODAY.com
States: “In Washington, only looking at crashes in which at least one driver tested positive for active THC, there were 40 fatalities in 2010, compared to 85 in 2014, according to AAA estimates.”
Fails to recognize that urine tests detect marijuana up to 28 days after a use and up to 3 months in blood. CITE.
Relies on nothing else. WORTHLESS.
2. Fatal accidents involving stoned drivers soared in Washington since pot was legalized - May. 10, 2016
The same mistake. Refers to marijuana being “involved in” accidents when “involved in” means only testing positive. See above facts about what that means.
Also notes: “One driver with high levels of THC might not be impaired, while another driver with very low levels can be impaired.” And “a different study, by the Transportation Department, which found that drivers who drivers who are drunk have a much greater increase in the risk of being in an accident than drivers who used marijuana.”
Makes explicit earlier point that: “having THC in your system tells us nothing about your potential impairment, it would be like a report showing how many people involved in accidents had drunk a beer in the last week” but also noting that the group responsible for this statement said “all motorists should avoid driving while impaired,”
3. Marijuana playing larger role in fatal crashes
Again, refers to a statistic about marijuana “contribut[ing] to” an accident when that just means one of the drivers tested positive, which again means use in the last 1-3 months, NOT current intoxication.
4. Cannabis and motor vehicle crashes | BC Medical Journal
In fact notes that while there are some areas of impairment with marijuana use, the risk is worse with drunk drivers. Notes that marijuana intoxicated drivers have better responses to complex things like interpreting/anticipating traffic patterns, but have worse responses to highly automated tasks, but also, that the latter point results in their embracing coping strategies like slower and less aggressive driving.
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6. Post-legalization, marijuana-related fatal crashes double in Washington - Autoblog
Notes: “While increases in blood-alcohol content correlate with decreases in driving abilities, there's no such correlation with THC, the active component of marijuana, in the bloodstream. AAA says there is no scientific evidence that drivers perform more poorly behind the wheel at a certain level of marijuana use.” And “It's simply not possible today to determine whether a driver is impaired based solely on the amount of the drug in their body."”
Notes: “The number of deaths in the state per 100 million miles traveled increased from 0.78 in 2012 to 0.80 in 2014, a small increase” but without any correlation to marijuana specifically
