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Of Course: Obama Defends Kaepernick's Refusal to Stand For The National Anthem

The President of the United States refuses to support the oppressions of political correctness and the Right can't muster even a groaned acceptance.

Color me surprised.
 
TheGoverness said:
LOL, Obama is the President of the United ****ing States.

Of course he's proud of America.
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His wife admitted she wasn't proud of America til 2008
 
Mason66 said:
And he is not smart enough to handle the press.

It is like a reaction for him to answer every question in detail that he is asked.

He needed to concentrate on the issues he was dealing with over there and not call more attention to this idiot over here.
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It was a pretty offhand answer, and no reason to not answer it. Some people will look for anything to bitch about...
 
Tanngrisnir said:
No, it wasn't a strawman. It's good to know what words actually mean before trying to use them.
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Show me how I am wrong. Otherwise you just wasted 2 minutes of my time.
 
Mycroft said:
Leave it up to Obama to raise a strawman at the right moment. :roll:

Kaepernick isn't running afoul of any federal or state law, is he? The Constitution...and the 1st Amendment...only apply to the government. So...Obama's mention of a constitutional right is irrelevant.

So yeah...his state and the federal government cannot pass a law that forbids Kaepernick from speaking his mind. However, public opinion is under no such restrictions and Kaepernick can be held responsible for his words and actions by them.
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Kaepernick was exercising his first amendment right....that's why it was relevant. DUH!!!!! How you interpreted his right to protest is not only wrong...it's unAmerican.
 
volsrock said:
OK u Libs

Lets say a Lilly White Christian player refused to stand The National Anthem because he disagreed with Americas stand on Gay Marriage that made it legal. Says he cant support a Flag and country thats supports sickos

He also slammed Gays by saying they were sick and a parasite on American society and wore socks stating..NO ONE IS BORN GAY...all this done while in Uniform representing the NFL

Would you support him

Yes or No

Simple ??
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I support the right of people to say whatever they want(outside of libel). The government cannot interfere in what people say. This is a right under the constitution. This does not mean I support any one, either Kaepernick of your imaginary player, only their rights under the constitution. This should not be complex.
 
Manc Skipper said:
That's why they've been buying so many of his jerseys since. He's their best-selling QB!
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shrug...

If that was relevant, then Obama wouldn't have needed to make his statement.
 
volsrock said:
His wife admitted she wasn't proud of America til 2008
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Obama till this day will not return the salute of the Marines on his detail, which is unheard of in a POTUS. Anyone waiting for him to say anything negative about Kaepernick is going to be disappointed.
 
Mason66 said:
And he can't control himself so he has to answer whatever they ask, right?
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If he didn't, you would be bitching about him dodging the press...
 
Kobie said:
Who are you to determine on what subjects the prez (or anyone else) can or cannot comment.
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A person with common sense.

Why does he get himself embroiled with cases that have no basis in reality like this one.
 
Mycroft said:
Leave it up to Obama to raise a strawman at the right moment. :roll:

Kaepernick isn't running afoul of any federal or state law, is he? The Constitution...and the 1st Amendment...only apply to the government. So...Obama's mention of a constitutional right is irrelevant.

So yeah...his state and the federal government cannot pass a law that forbids Kaepernick from speaking his mind. However, public opinion is under no such restrictions and Kaepernick can be held responsible for his words and actions by them.
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You are assigning to Obama an argument he did not make. Kinda makes your post somewhat ironic...
 
TheGoverness said:
LOL, Obama is the President of the United ****ing States.

Of course he's proud of America.
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Maybe part of it, but I have never felt he was President for all the people.

He mentioned in just about every speech he has given the other side or enemies.

The President of all the people doesn't have another side or enemies.
 
zimmer said:
You have to remember his mentors.
That is Obama.
It is why he called cops "stupid" early in his administration.
It's why Trayvon was " his son" of sorts.
It's why Obama had to be shamed into wearing an American flag lapel pin.
Obama isn't proud of America, and it was his wife who admitted it.

K-nick and Obama... Two peas in a pod... BMP... Black Minds Poisoned.
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Komrade, you are making **** up again, and you should know from long experience that does not work well for you...
 
Moot said:
Kaepernick was exercising his first amendment right....that's why it was relevant. DUH!!!!! How you interpreted his right to protest is not only wrong...it's unAmerican.
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No...Kaepernick was just speaking his mind. The first amendment has nothing to do with a person speaking their mind. It is all about the government preventing a person from speaking his mind. To my knowledge, no government is trying to prevent him from speaking his mind.
 
Moot said:
Kaepernick was exercising his first amendment right....that's why it was relevant. DUH!!!!! How you interpreted his right to protest is not only wrong...it's unAmerican.
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He was exercising a right the NFL gave him. How did the first amendment get involved in this?

My problem with him is not that he was seated during the song, but rather what he said about the flag and the country after that.
 
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Redress said:
If he didn't, you would be bitching about him dodging the press...
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Wrong. I would have seen some sorely lacking intelligence from the man.
 
Redress said:
I support the right of people to say whatever they want(outside of libel). The government cannot interfere in what people say. This is a right under the constitution. This does not mean I support any one, either Kaepernick of your imaginary player, only their rights under the constitution. This should not be complex.
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That would be outside of slander, not libel, if the false accusation was only verbal. ;)
 
Captain America said:
These days, the gestures of mutual respect seems to be lost on many in our society.

Go Canada! We love y'all like brothers. Although, what Canada lacks in beer making skills, it makes up for in particular horticultural markets. ;)
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I'm not a beer drinker, so I can't personally challenge your claim although I've heard many claim that American beer is watered down in comparison. But I'd be happy to share a Canadian Club with you.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
That would be outside of slander, not libel, if the false accusation was only verbal. ;)
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false accusation?

He stated police get paid to murder people
 
Moot said:
Do other countries stand for their national anthem at sporting events? I'm wondering if it's just an American thing or if it's something most countries do.
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You do not get out of the country, much or watch international sporting events much, do you. Ofcourse they do.
 
Mycroft said:
shrug...

If that was relevant, then Obama wouldn't have needed to make his statement.
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Defending the right to free speech is always relevant, whether that be by word or by pocketbook.
 
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