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If Trump wins, could Obama declare an emergency suspension of the constitution?

AtlantaAdonis said:
It's common sense that democracy involves responsibility. Like Ben Franklin said, "with great power comes great responsibility". It wasn't spelled out in the constitution because it's obvious.

Let me guess, you're one of those people that thinks the slave-owning founding fathers were infallible and that the "kawnstitution" is sacred?
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Lemme guess, you're one of those people pretending to be someone who favors a democrat president seizing power when elections don't go his way.
 
AtlantaAdonis said:
A Trump presidency could be a real threat to world stability and peace. When the people fail to uphold their end of the deal in democracy IMO it needs to be suspended to keep everything from falling to pieces so that Obama can hold onto power until a more sensible candidate for president is selected. Of course that is radical, but there is no sense in us following the constitution off a cliff.
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Interesting question. I don't think so. The country is set up so that no one can "suspend" the foundation of the country, namely, the Constitution.

The only thing I can think of offhand to protect the country, in the event Trump wins (which has very little chance of happening), is for Congress to pass a bill changing the authority for the nuclear button...or the procedures.
 
NonoBadDog said:
It is up to the voters to sort it out. Half of the population has less than average intelligence.
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Lol not picking on you or trying to detract from your point but i really must point out that most people are of average intelligence. Thats why its called average.

To your point that it's up to the voters to sort out. Sure i accept that. People need to be responsible for vetting their sources and not be lazy thinkers. That being said i also have a hard time calling people stupid who are making choices based on missinformation they believe to be true.

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countryboy said:
Lemme guess, you're one of those people pretending to be someone who favors a democrat president seizing power when elections don't go his way.
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No sir, a pragmatist that doesn't believe in following the constitution off a cliff.
 
The President doesn't have the power to do that. And the military, from Privates to 4-Stars, wouldn't comply with such orders.

And if it was possible, as horrible as Trump is, he should be allowed to take office if he wins.
 
AtlantaAdonis said:
It's common sense that democracy involves responsibility. Like Ben Franklin said, "with great power comes great responsibility". It wasn't spelled out in the constitution because it's obvious.

Let me guess, you're one of those people that thinks the slave-owning founding fathers were infallible and that the "kawnstitution" is sacred?
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You sure it wasnt spiderman who said that?

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AtlantaAdonis said:
A Trump presidency could be a real threat to world stability and peace. When the people fail to uphold their end of the deal in democracy IMO it needs to be suspended to keep everything from falling to pieces so that Obama can hold onto power until a more sensible candidate for president is selected. Of course that is radical, but there is no sense in us following the constitution off a cliff.
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This is the most asinine thing you've ever posted, and that's saying A LOT.
 
trouble13 said:
Lol not picking on you or trying to detract from your point but i really must point out that most people are of average intelligence. Thats why its called average.

To your point that it's up to the voters to sort out. Sure i accept that. People need to be responsible for vetting their sources and not be lazy thinkers. That being said i also have a hard time calling people stupid who are making choices based on missinformation they believe to be true.

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I am not much of an optimist when it comes to human nature. People think what they want based on what they want. They think short term. I think most people put on blinders to suit their aspirations and whine about it after they get bit in the ass.
 
AtlantaAdonis said:
Is there or is there not implied responsibility in being voter? You have to not be stupid and you have to not be a person that will vote institutionalized bigotry against groups of people.
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Nope, you can be a complete idiot, if there was any responsibility like that we wouldn't have Obama and Hillary wouldn't be the Democrat Nominee, nor would Trump be the Republican Nominee.
 
AtlantaAdonis said:
Is there or is there not implied responsibility in being voter? You have to not be stupid and you have to not be a person that will vote institutionalized bigotry against groups of people.
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It has worked for Obama being bigoted against his enemy which are the Republicans.
 
AtlantaAdonis said:
No sir, a pragmatist that doesn't believe in following the constitution off a cliff.
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The Constitution cannot lead us off a cliff. It has built in checks and balances. Your fake character is no pragmatist.
 
JumpinJack said:
Interesting question. I don't think so. The country is set up so that no one can "suspend" the foundation of the country, namely, the Constitution.

The only thing I can think of offhand to protect the country, in the event Trump wins (which has very little chance of happening), is for Congress to pass a bill changing the authority for the nuclear button...or the procedures.
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Why do you think Trump would be dangerous with the "nuclear button"?
 
countryboy said:
The Constitution cannot lead us off a cliff. It has built in checks and balances. Your fake character is no pragmatist.
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In other words, you believe in the infallibility of a 17h-century document.
 
AtlantaAdonis said:
In other words, you believe in the infallibility of a 17h-century document.
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It beats the hell out of dictatorial nonsense. Your fake persona may want Obama to seize power, but thinking people know better.
 
No. For the same reason that I don't wake up in the morning wondering if there might have been a military coup overnight. That's not how it works in our country. That's one of the things that makes our country different from some other countries.
 
countryboy said:
It beats the hell out of dictatorial nonsense. Your fake persona may want Obama to seize power, but thinking people know better.
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Would you be willing to give Obama a third term to avoid an American Hitler seizing power?
 
AtlantaAdonis said:
Would you be willing to give Obama a third term to avoid an American Hitler seizing power?
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The fear is not electing a Hitler that seizes power but the ideology that creates a Hitler in the first place. Sorry but the liberalist agenda is Fascist, it depends to the power of the state to enforce it. It is in contradiction of freedom, because like it or not freedom is unfair.
 
AtlantaAdonis said:
A Trump presidency could be a real threat to world stability and peace. When the people fail to uphold their end of the deal in democracy IMO it needs to be suspended to keep everything from falling to pieces so that Obama can hold onto power until a more sensible candidate for president is selected. Of course that is radical, but there is no sense in us following the constitution off a cliff.
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No. What a stupid question.
 
AtlantaAdonis said:
Would you be willing to give Obama a third term to avoid an American Hitler seizing power?
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Trump is not anything like Hitler. That is hyperbole to the extreme.

Why can't people stop comparing things to Hitler?
 
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Rico Suave said:
I think real billionaires would take care of that situation.
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For some time now I have suspected more or less the same thing. Trump represents a major potentially disruptive threat on several different fronts - both domestically and internationally. I do not think he would be allowed to ruin the nation and the world even should he pull off the upset of the last 100 years.
 
TheGoverness said:
Trump is not anything like Hitler. That is hyperbole to the extreme.

Why can't people stop comparing things to Hitler?
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Of course Trump is not Hitler. But aside from George Wallace in 68 (who really had no chance at actually winning and was thus not the threat Trump is) he is our quasi frankenstein monster potential Hitler in waiting for lack of a better comparison.

In 1932 the nation faced looking over the precipice and seeing potential insurrection and widespread calamity with the deep and dark depression. FDR comes into office and does all manner of rather revolutionary things that he never campaigned on and never even suggested during the campaign. And the system was saved.

Barack Obama, said to be the most liberal Senator in Congress, comes into office out of the 2008 election in which the nation faced another potential economic upheaval on a campaign promise of CHANGE and promptly wastes his first two years when he had huge majorities in Congress and outside of a watered down health law - really abandons much of his change promises. But the nation moves on and has been stabilized with the powers that be unchallenged and unruffled.

WHY? What happens between a Presidents election day and his inauguration day which causes such a 180 to happen?
 
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AtlantaAdonis said:
A Trump presidency could be a real threat to world stability and peace. When the people fail to uphold their end of the deal in democracy IMO it needs to be suspended to keep everything from falling to pieces so that Obama can hold onto power until a more sensible candidate for president is selected. Of course that is radical, but there is no sense in us following the constitution off a cliff.
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What the world really needs is an Obama dictatorship. That would be one cool proof of: Yes We Can!
 
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