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Why did Clinton create her own email server?

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From what I've read, doing that was a pretty expensive process. Also from what I've read, she was aware she was breaking the rules.

Why did she do that?
 
From what I've read, doing that was a pretty expensive process. Also from what I've read, she was aware she was breaking the rules.

Why did she do that?

Blame it on the Powell.
 
From what I've read, doing that was a pretty expensive process. Also from what I've read, she was aware she was breaking the rules.

Why did she do that?

Crazy Crooked Granny is above the law. Just ask any kooker leftist. :)
 
She wanted to impede FOIA requests.
 
If you wouldn't mind, how about pasting the pertinent facts I'm IGNORING?

Your doing a wonderful job at bringing subject like these to the attention of DP posters. Keep it up. :)
 
If you wouldn't mind, how about pasting the pertinent facts I'm IGNORING?

Lol, I don't think the link said what he thought it said. Here's some pertinent information, from the link, pretty much reinforcing what you said about breaking the rules.

Yes, the occasional use of a personal email account is permitted in certain circumstances, such as emergencies. As we wrote, the IG report said it found “many examples of staff using personal email accounts to conduct official business.” But, as we also wrote, the National Archives and Records Administration requires all work-related emails to be properly preserved. Federal rules required Clinton to preserve work emails and turn them over before leaving office, but she did not turn over her emails until 21 months after she left office.
 
Lol, I don't think the link said what he thought it said. Here's some pertinent information, from the link, pretty much reinforcing what you said about breaking the rules.

Oh, thank you, Countryboy. I read the first third or something like that and couldn't figure out what he meant. Thank you for taking the time to show me that HE may not have known what he meant. ;)
 
Ah, more pertinent information from the link.

Was she allowed to use a private server?
No. As we wrote, the IG report said that it has been department policy since 2005 — four years before Clinton took office — that “normal day-to-day operations” be conducted on government servers. The report noted that the department’s Foreign Affairs Manual was updated in November 2005 to say “it is the Department’s general policy that normal day-to-day operations be conducted on an authorized [automated information system].” The IG made a distinction between occasional use in emergencies and exclusive use of personal email. “Beginning in late 2005 and continuing through 2011, the Department revised the FAM and issued various memoranda specifically discussing the obligation to use Department systems in most circumstances and identifying the risks of not doing so,” the IG report said

And more.

Did Clinton seek government approval to use a private server for her personal email account?
No. The IG report said Clinton “had an obligation” to discuss her email system with the department, but it could find “no evidence” that Clinton sought approval for her unusual email arrangement. If she did, the report says her request would have been denied by the bureaus of Diplomatic Security and Information Resource Management. Brian Fallon, a Clinton campaign spokesman, has told us: “It did not occur to her that having it on a personal server could be so distinct that it would be unapproved.”

I think we should preserve the link, lest someone realize their folly, and try and delete it. ;)

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/07/a-guide-to-clintons-emails/
 
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Oh, thank you, Countryboy. I read the first third or something like that and couldn't figure out what he meant. Thank you for taking the time to show me that HE may not have known what he meant. ;)

You are most welcome my dear. :)
 
From what I've read, doing that was a pretty expensive process. Also from what I've read, she was aware she was breaking the rules.

Why did she do that?

Of course she was aware that she was breaking the rules, she created her own private e-mail server for the express purpose of breaking the rules, to hide her crooked dare I say treasonous, correspondence.
 
Of course she was aware that she was breaking the rules, she created her own private e-mail server for the express purpose of breaking the rules, to hide her crooked dare I say treasonous, correspondence.

I think this is sooo important to realize.
 
Of course she was aware that she was breaking the rules, she created her own private e-mail server for the express purpose of breaking the rules, to hide her crooked dare I say treasonous, correspondence.


and yet you have no proof
 
do you have any idea how you look when info is provided and you pretend it isnt there? more right wing fantasy.

I always look beautiful, Katzgar. And I rarely pretend outside the bedroom. ;)
 
do you have any idea how you look when info is provided and you pretend it isnt there? more right wing fantasy.

The funny thing is, the link you provided actually says she broke the rules. Multiple times. :)
 
From what I've read, doing that was a pretty expensive process. Also from what I've read, she was aware she was breaking the rules.

Why did she do that?

Based on everything that has come out I think we can safely conclude that it was an attempt to get around FOIA.

I just stumbled across this one a few minutes ago...

Clinton team used special program to scrub server, Gowdy says | Fox News

Yet Gowdy said her team was using BleachBit, which is like an electronic shredder that permanently scrambles data.

In reference to the kinds of emails Clinton has claimed were private and not worth turning over, Gowdy said, “You don't use BleachBit for yoga emails, or for bridesmaids emails. When you're using BleachBit, it is something you really do not want the world to see.”

It is pretty obvious to me at this point that she will never be held accountable. There will be political opponents who will take her to task but the people who actually have the ability to bring charges against her appear to all be in her hip pocket.

This is what I believe...

I believe that the Clinton Foundation is a means for the Clinton's to convert their status, power, and influence into cold hard cash. I believe that evidence of this was contained in the form of emails on that private server. I further believe that the server was set up as a convenient way for her to handle all of her business and have total control over who would have access to it and also have the ability to nuke it should it ever become necessary to cover her tracks, which it did.
 
she likely did but that isnt the question that was asked, let me refresh your fantasy "from what I've read, doing that was a pretty expensive process. Also from what I've read, she was aware she was breaking the rules.

Why did she do that?" this is the question asked and the question answered by the post.
 
she likely did but that isnt the question that was asked, let me refresh your fantasy "from what I've read, doing that was a pretty expensive process. Also from what I've read, she was aware she was breaking the rules.

Why did she do that?" this is the question asked and the question answered by the post.

Then why didn't you answer it?
 
From what I've read, doing that was a pretty expensive process. Also from what I've read, she was aware she was breaking the rules.

Why did she do that?
If you wouldn't mind, how about pasting the pertinent facts I'm IGNORING?
In the link provided, it says she set the server up while she was a Senator, before she was Secretary of State (in fact, it seems like I've heard it was set up shortly after Bill left office). My understanding is there is no rule/law prohibiting Congress people from having private e-mail or private e-mail server. In fact, I believe Congress is, by law, shielded from FOIA requests and are not bound to retain any digital records. Thus, Clinton was NOT breaking the rules when she set up her own e-mail server (which is part of the link you were sent). Furthermore, from what I've read elsewhere, it's not an uncommon practice. Actually, allow me to rephrase. It's not an unprecedented practice, either private e-mail or server.

As for "why"? There are many many reasons one would like to have a private e-mail server and control what happens on the server.
Of course she was aware that she was breaking the rules, she created her own private e-mail server for the express purpose of breaking the rules, to hide her crooked dare I say treasonous, correspondence.
Under the timeline with which I'm familiar, this is untrue.

I think it's also important to separate the reasons for creating a server and the reasons for exclusively using a server. The reasons for creating a private e-mail server are not at all relevant. They really aren't. I could create an e-mail server, if I felt like it. It's not hard.

The reason to exclusively USE a private e-mail server, especially in a position Clinton held, is a much different topic. And, like many in this thread, I don't buy for a second it's because she didn't want to carry two Blackberry phones, but rather used it as a workaround to avoid FOIA. Whether it is illegal or not seems to be something of a gray matter, but if I remember correctly, it did violate Department policy. But, since she's no longer in the State Department, I don't exactly know what one does about it.
 
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