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Trump capitulates of illegals. Says he will adopt Jeb's plan

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Disavows 11m deportation. Just pay back taxes.

Crowd in Mississippi soon to b stunned. Will admit he lied on ha nitty tonight.

Developing....
 
Credible link or it didn't happen.
 
Trump's statements on Hannity:

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Actually faux is in shock bailed on reporting on trump. Both stations aren't covering his sparsely attended carnival act in Mississippi .
 
Hahaha oh **** that's hilarious. The entire reason he won the primary was his tough stance on immigration and now he's back tracking. Oh lord this is just too funny.

Have fun trump lovers. You made your bed with a man who has no morals and no principals. You raced to the bottom and found a candidate that allowed your side to hit a new low in American politics.


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Hanitty audience not taking amnesty proposal well.
 
Hahaha oh **** that's hilarious. The entire reason he won the primary was his tough stance on immigration and now he's back tracking. Oh lord this is just too funny.

Have fun trump lovers. You made your bed with a man who has no morals and no principals. You raced to the bottom and found a candidate that allowed your side to hit a new low in American politics.


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I agree with you, with the glee.
 
This campaign is cracking up, it is hilarious! Watching him piss off the mouthbreathers that supported his nativism now are just slack jawed, going "huh?"
 
Disavows 11m deportation. Just pay back taxes.

Crowd in Mississippi soon to b stunned. Will admit he lied on ha nitty tonight.

Developing....
Back Taxes mean they actually get massive subsidies, as the will qualify for years worth of the EITC.

If only someone had warned us. If only someone had spent the entire primary pointing out that this was what Trump was actually likely to do. If only we'd been warned. Repeatedly. For months.

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Disavows 11m deportation. Just pay back taxes.

Crowd in Mississippi soon to b stunned. Will admit he lied on ha nitty tonight.

Developing....

He left himself an out: " we will follow the law". A law on the books that grants illegals zero resident rights. Obama just chose to not enforce the law, and a cowardly congress let him get away with it.

You think you got an issue now, if Hillary grants amnesty to those Latinos who are here (~ 15 million), then we have "others" coming over legally but impoverished, then plus the new wave that will flow in for instant amnesty from the south, we could be altering the low wage demographic of the USA by 30 million or nearly 10%, all entitled to a piece of your paycheck through some social program or another.

California has turned into an armed camp with even the middle class retreating into gated communities. The central Valley is a war zone of drugs and gangs. And, BTW, the crime comes mostly from the second generation because they are entitled to he American dream, and busting tires like dad did isn't cutting it.

There are not enough jobs to go around as it is.
 
He left himself an out: " we will follow the law".
Would you like some more straws to grasp at?

The reality is that Trump has spent the past week flopping on the issue like a fish out of water. No one knows his plan, because he doesn't have a plan. He doesn't understand the issues, he's locked himself into an inflexible series of positions, but realizes he can't throw 11 million people out of the country without permanently turning every Hispanic and Asian in the US against him. (And the Republican Party, but he doesn't give much of a crap about that.)


You think you got an issue now
No. Immigration really isn't an issue.

Unauthorized immigrants aren't the one causing our nation's problems, and overall they are beneficial to the US. The real problem is that our immigration system is completely out of whack with the higher rates of immigration that we need, both to be competitive internationally, and to treat them in a humane fashion.

The current nativism and xenophobia is no different than what we saw in the late 19th and early 20th centuries -- virulent hatred of immigrants because they are "not like us," that even extended to banning alcohol across the entire nation in order to put the screws to the immigrant communities. (Yep, look it up, the Temperance movement leveraged anti-immigrant sentiment to push its agenda.) And yet today, we take it for granted that Americans of Italian or German or Irish descent are just as American as everyone else.


if Hillary grants amnesty to those Latinos who are here (~ 15 million)...
Good grief.

First, it's closer to 10-11 million.

They aren't all "Latinos." A very large percentage are Mexican, but they've largely stopped immigrating to the US. Almost 15% of unauthorized immigrants now are Asian, and that group is growing.


And no matter how you slice it, it is effectively impossible to kick all of the unauthorized immigrants out of the US. Further, giving them a path to legal residency will produce pretty much the same effect as giving them a path to citizenship.


....we could be altering the low wage demographic of the USA by 30 million or nearly 10%, all entitled to a piece of your paycheck through some social program or another.
:roll:

News flash! Unauthorized immigrants aren't coming to the US for those sweet sweet welfare benefits, not only because they aren't eligible for them, but also because those welfare benefits barely exist. Since you missed the articles, in the 20 year anniversary of the Clinton welfare reforms, we've largely gutted. Heck, Mexico now has universal heath care.


California has turned into an armed camp with even the middle class retreating into gated communities.
Please, spare us such utter and total nonsense.


The central Valley is a war zone of drugs and gangs.
You, uh, DO know that California's crime rate dropped precipitously between 1990 and 2000, and has stayed at a fairly flat rate since then?

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That the violent crime rate is back to where it was in the 60s?

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That California's homicide rate is back to where it was in the 1960s?


There are not enough jobs to go around as it is.
Uh, hello? The unemployment rate is nearly 5%.

Immigrants (legal or unauthorized) are not killing jobs. In many ways, they are beneficial for job growth, because every person who comes to reside in the US needs a place to live, needs to buy food, they buy and use phones, they generate all sorts of economic activity. And if given a legal path to residence, we can tax them -- and that is precisely what we need, because we don't have enough young people paying taxes to pay for Social Security and Medicare.

What's really killing jobs is automation, combined with the failure to educate people and retrain them for different jobs.
 
Well I hope a couple of families of 12 move in next door to you.

Crime has fallen a bit with the new "Shall-issue" change in CCW'S licenses.

I'll put you in the "Unlikely to vote for Trump" category, and in the "I (heart) graft" category". :roll:
 
Disavows 11m deportation. Just pay back taxes.

Crowd in Mississippi soon to b stunned. Will admit he lied on ha nitty tonight.

Developing....

Really, he stood in front of the group and said he was going to adopt Jeb's plan?

He used Jeb by name?
 
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