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Melanie a former high end escort? [W:253]

Re: Melanie a former high end escort?

Last I saw, no one was voting for her to be president. Pretty sure about that.
 
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FieldTheorist said:
This is extremely dishonest argumentation. Just because a person doesn't care about whether or not X is true doesn't mean they are prohibited from asking someone who does why they believe it. This is pretty rudimentary debating 101 and intro to logic stuff.
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asking for evidence or details is one thing, claiming "i dont care and nobody else should care and if you do care then I'm a better person than you", is hypocritical dishonest partisan hackery
 
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dimensionallava said:
asking for evidence or details is one thing, claiming "i dont care and nobody else should care and if you do care then I'm a better person than you", is hypocritical dishonest partisan hackery
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No it isn't, it's called asking a person who's making a claim to substantiate their claim, which is what you were charged without before all of this irrelevant bloviation. That's pretty distinct from hypocrisy, dishonesty, and partisan hackery. If you doubt me, read a dictionary.
 
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SmokeAndMirrors said:
Why not? What does her possibly having been a sex worker have to do with Trump, or who she is as a human being? Oh no, she might have done something that nearly everyone on earth does, just with some extra perks. Whatever will we do? :roll:

I am really sick of Puritanical busy-bodies shaming people over nothing and obsessing over other people's personal lives. Look at this. You're making me defend Trump. I need to go be ill now...
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People think Melanie married Trump because all her life she dreamed of a man who had a severe personality disorder, Cheetos skin tone and hair like a hyena's ass? Apparently a few people seem to think that. I don't. I'm thinking she was/is attracted to his wealth and power. I don't care.

Somehow it's OK to for a man to spend money for time with a lady but by God the lady is rotten for taking the money to spend time with the man. How does that work?

As you well know America is obsessed with people having sex with other people who enjoy sex. That **** is not supposed to happen.
 
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dimensionallava said:
asking for evidence or details is one thing, claiming "i dont care and nobody else should care and if you do care then I'm a better person than you", is hypocritical dishonest partisan hackery
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That's not what I said. Try to be less dishonest.
 
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Velvet Elvis said:
Last I saw, no one was voting for her to be president. Pretty sure about that.
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It's fine. You better never attack Hillary Clinton, but if a Hillary Clinton supporter slanders another woman in order to help Hillary, that's called feminism. Or at least it is to neoliberals.
 
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FieldTheorist said:
No it isn't, it's called asking a person who's making a claim to substantiate their claim, which is what you were charged without before all of this irrelevant bloviation. That's pretty distinct from hypocrisy, dishonesty, and partisan hackery. If you doubt me, read a dictionary.
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her first 3 posts where along the lines of "i dont care i dont care, why is everyone caring" thats not "asking someone to substantiate there claim" thats called silencing criticism
 
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dimensionallava said:
her first 3 posts where along the lines of "i dont care i dont care, why is everyone caring" thats not "asking someone to substantiate there claim" thats called silencing criticism
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No, that's called asking you to defend a claim you made. There aren't debating lessons more rudimentary than this, DL. If you make a claim, the onus is on you to support it. What your opponent believes is irrelevant (in fact, to assert that it is relevant falls under a category of fallacy known as ad hominem fallacies.)
 
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Rico Suave said:
I suspect she was and I guess I'm a little judgemental but as a nation we can't abide a president who married a sex worker nor a First Lady who was one. Still need more evidence though.
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But you are fine with a president that spent her marriage trashing the lives and reputations of her rapist husbands victims?

Crazy, man...just crazy.
 
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Risky Thicket said:
People think Melanie married Trump because all her life she dreamed of a man who had a severe personality disorder, Cheetos skin tone and hair like a hyena's ass? Apparently a few people seem to think that. I don't. I'm thinking she was/is attracted to his wealth and power. I don't care.

Somehow it's OK to for a man to spend money for time with a lady but by God the lady is rotten for taking the money to spend time with the man. How does that work?

As you well know America is obsessed with people having sex with other people who enjoy sex. That **** is not supposed to happen.
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A proper lady only has sex apprehensively and for the sake of procreation, while tightly shutting her eyes and thinking of England. Or Uncle Sam, as it were. And preferably, she keeps her bra on. And that's just as well, since taking it off in complete pitch darkness is difficult anyway.

A woman making a damn good living by having sex for no reason other than the fact that everyone wants sex? Good god, call the Guard!
 
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FieldTheorist said:
No, that's called asking you to defend a claim you made. There aren't debating lessons more rudimentary than this, DL. If you make a claim, the onus is on you to support it. What your opponent believes is irrelevant (in fact, to assert that it is relevant falls under a category of fallacy known as ad hominem fallacies.)
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i didnt make any claim the op did and the article did, so what are you even talking about? the only claim that i made was that if trump married a prostitute then that reflects poorly on him and the hypocrisy of the republican party especially after they (literally) made a federal case over monica lewinsky . It was only after I explained why people should care if it was true that she asked for evidence
 
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Redress said:
Is she running for office? No, then why the **** would I care. Let's leave family of the candidates alone.
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why? are the republicans going to leave bill clinton alone? Did they leave michelle obama alone? Do democrats have to play by a different set of rules or something?
 
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dimensionallava said:
i didnt make any claim the op did and the article did, so what are you even talking about? the only claim that i made was that if trump married a prostitute then that reflects poorly on him and the hypocrisy of the republican party especially after they (literally) made a federal case over monica lewinsky . It was only after I explained why people should care if it was true that she asked for evidence
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Bull**** DL. Not only did you yourself make that claim, you did not say if.

That is revisionist history on your part.
 
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dimensionallava said:
why? are the republicans going to leave bill clinton alone? Did they leave michelle obama alone? Do democrats have to play by a different set of rules or something?
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I don't want to be like republicans. Why do you? And do you always blame others for what you do?
 
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TheGoverness said:
Bull**** DL. Not only did you yourself make that claim, you did not say if.

That is revisionist history on your part.
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so should we care or not you seem to be a caring alot? why shouldn't we?
 
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dimensionallava said:
i didnt make any claim the op did and the article did, so what are you even talking about?
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I'm talking about:

dimensionallava said:
HE married a prostitute
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TheGoverness said:
Where's the evidence Melania is/was a prostitute?
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Emphasis mine. Would you like me to quote the rest of the exchange so people can follow the string of irrelevant and fatuous nonsense that's trying to hide the lack of a justification you have for holding this position?

If you really actually only meant what you are claiming right now (and you were an even half-way-honest debater), you'd have clarified that you misspoke about 5 posts ago. But watching you struggling, by refusing to support your original claim (i.e. affirm the OP's hatchet job article) or else concede that your original claim was incorrect/misrepresenting yourself/expressing yourself poorly, is most amusing.

the only claim that i made was that if trump married a prostitute then that reflects poorly on him and the hypocrisy of the republican party especially after they (literally) made a federal case over monica lewinsky . It was only after I explained why people should care if it was true that she asked for evidence
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Past-dimensionallava has a disagreement with you on this point.
 
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Redress said:
I don't want to be like republicans. Why do you? And do you always blame others for what you do?
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i say its fine to talk about someones family, especially when the other person has said everything imaginable about yours
 
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dimensionallava said:
why? are the republicans going to leave bill clinton alone? Did they leave michelle obama alone? Do democrats have to play by a different set of rules or something?
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You cannot complain about behavior you emulate. :shrug:
 
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dimensionallava said:
why? are the republicans going to leave bill clinton alone? Did they leave michelle obama alone? Do democrats have to play by a different set of rules or something?
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I think once a first lady starts getting involved in politics like she did they are fair game. If she kept herself on the sidelines and didn't open her mouth about what she wanted done I would be against going after her, but Michelle Obama didn't do that.
 
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FieldTheorist said:
I'm talking about:



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Emphasis mine. Would you like me to quote the rest of the exchange so people can follow the string of irrelevant and fatuous nonsense that's trying to hide the lack of a justification you have for holding this position?

If you really actually only meant what you are claiming right now (and you were an even half-way-honest debater), you'd have clarified that you misspoke about 5 posts ago. But watching you struggling, by refusing to support your original claim (i.e. affirm the OP's hatchet job article) or else concede that your original claim was incorrect/misrepresenting yourself/expressing yourself poorly, is most amusing.



Past-dimensionallava has a disagreement with you on this point.
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yeah as in it would be something HE did ... not melania.....im saying it would be something he did, not something melania did understand? I even listed several examples of something that melania did, i guess if you read that one statement out of context and not the whole thread you could make that mistake... maybe read the whole thread next time
 
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Jetboogieman said:
You cannot complain about behavior you emulate. :shrug:
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of course you can? have you ever even heard of donald trump? he does it all the time
 
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dimensionallava said:
yeah as in it would be something HE did ... not melania.....im saying it would be something he did, not something melania did understand? I even listed several examples of something that melania did, i guess if you read that one statement out of context and not the whole thread you could make that mistake... maybe read the whole thread next time
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That's distinctly not support for the claim that Melania was a prostitute when Donald Trump married her. Try again.
 
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