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The IQ DEBATE

SailaWay said:
check the last election of romney and obama .... the black women voted 95% for obama and the black men 88%... and then check all the others and you will see the voting for democrats comes from the UNWISE.. you can check IQ's with the IQ expert prof lyn
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So being part of the UNWISE, who did you vote for - Romney I assume. So the question is how many unwise votes for Romney there were versus unwise votes for Obama. Do you have any data on that?
 
JasperL said:
What I cannot figure out is why you're apparently pushing a system in which you'll be denied the vote, or at least where your vote will be worth less than those high IQ folks. :doh
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I think what he is beating around the bush in trying to say is that women and minorities shouldn't be allowed to vote. He wants to return the country to it's original state in 1776.
 
SailaWay said:
education is not wisdom....it is IQ's that is the true wisdom... 95% of the lowest IQ's vote democratic.. and the wise would then vote opposite because they can see the harm .... the so called degreed folks are not wise to then vote along with the lowest IQ's on issues... just proves getting a degree is not wisdom but copying like parrots... inventors invent they do not copy.... they invent to bring BETTER instead of copying the same and STAYING THE SAME
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If you're going to peddle this nonsense, at least have the courage to be honest about it. What you mean with "the lowest IQs" is "black people" and so don't dress it up by saying "lowest IQs." Put your white supremacist drivel out there in the open where it belongs.

Furthermore, if you understood the IQ research, at best it shows that there is a small difference in the mean or median IQ between the races. So let's say the research shows there is a 5 point median difference between "whites" and "blacks" (assuming we can accurately identify race for IQ purposes in a world where much of the population are mixed race of some kind), with "whites" recording the higher average IQ. That clearly and obviously (except to white supremacist ignoramuses) does not mean that any given black person is less or more intelligent than any white person. By definition, half of each population will be above the median, half below, so perhaps 45% of blacks (assuming there are race-based differences and blacks have the lower IQ) will have a higher IQ than the bottom half of whites.

So when you say "95% of the lowest IQs vote democratic," unless you have some kind of exit poll data that performs IQ tests of people as they leave the voting booth or some other rigorous study of voting patterns by IQ (which you don't), that is objectively moronic and illustrates a profound and complete misunderstanding of what the race IQ research purports to show.

And finally, your assumption that getting a degree, especially an advanced degree, requires only 'copying like parrots' and not a demonstration of the ability to reason at a high level and apply knowledge that is 'memorized' is also obviously moronic, and indicates a high probability that you've never attempted to obtain an advanced degree.
 
Moderate Right said:
I think what he is beating around the bush in trying to say is that women and minorities shouldn't be allowed to vote. He wants to return the country to it's original state in 1776.
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That's clear enough, but as long as he continues to misrepresent his position and claim it's based on IQ instead of race and/or gender, I'd like him to answer the question based on his own obviously BS criteria. I'm pretty sure he's not anticipating he'd be kicked to the voting curb, just the blacks and the womens.
 
JasperL said:
That's clear enough, but as long as he continues to misrepresent his position and claim it's based on IQ instead of race and/or gender, I'd like him to answer the question based on his own obviously BS criteria. I'm pretty sure he's not anticipating he'd be kicked to the voting curb, just the blacks and the womens.
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To be fair, I dont' think he is talking about women (even while defending the founding fathers refusing them the vote) but he definitely is talking about minorities. Kind of reminds me of Abraham Lincoln being all gung-ho in abolishing slavery while at the same time thinking that blacks didn't have much intellect and probably never would. I wonder how Saily feels about educating minorities that do have a low IQ? Personally, I'm not a big fan of using an IQ number to define how smart someone is. There are many "smart" people that are as stupid as a bunch of rocks. While I believe that there are many uneducated drones on the left that are stupid to believe Democratic rhetoric and vote that way, there are many uneducated drones on the right as well who do the very same. I'm not so sure that the ultimate tally wouldn't be a close toss-up.
 
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