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Trump's a Massive Liar but his lies about his position on the Iraq War are Gargantuan

Re: Trump's a Massive Liar but his lies about his position on the Iraq War are Gargan

One has some dangling stuff between thier legs and one doesn't?

You mean Trump's a eunuch?!?
 
Re: Trump's a Massive Liar but his lies about his position on the Iraq War are Gargan

Hmm. The video doesn't show what it shows? Rrrriiiiggghht Got it. (I kinda think the video can stand on it's own, really).
No, of course your highly doctored and carefully edited out-of-context quotes doesn't even come close to showing what you fervently want to believe it shows. Although it does reveal some things that you apparently missed. For example, it does include Comey's statement that there was no basis for any criminal charges which is immediately followed by his gratuitous and legally meaningless offering of a hypothetical possibility that someone might be charged with something for something like this which goes to his attempted sabotage of Clinton even as he was announcing the fact that no laws were broken. You might be interested in this bit of Comey's congressional testimony last year and contrasting it with the comment in your doctored video which claims that these emails were clearly marked "confidential":
Asked about the three documents with the “c” markings suggesting that the lines included classified information, Comey told Rep. Matt Cartwright (D-Pa.) that they were not properly marked in accordance with the State manual.
“According to the manual, if you’re going to classify something, there has to be a header on the document, right?” Cartwright asked, to which Comey responded in the affirmative.
Asked whether there was a header that contained the “c” in the text, Comey said the “c” denoting classified material “was in the body in the text but there was no header on the email or in the text.”
“So if Secretary Clinton really were an expert at what's classified and what’s not classified and we're following the manual, the absence of a header would tell her immediately that those three documents were not classified,” Cartwright remarked. “Am I correct in that?”
Comey called it a “reasonable inference.”

I will say this for Comey, he was deft at providing quotes that satisfied both sides at one time or another. He's a very skilled bureaucrat.





Reality is not reality? LOL. You are a hoot.



Not at all. I have very little bearing or influence on much of anything, especially not national politics. But that doesn't alter the facts of Hillary long and scandal ridden career of 'public' (self) service. Especially not this latest pay to play scandal while she was SoS. The sum total of it all is that she's a corrupt political elite, and it's time for her to just retire from the public stage.[/QUOTE]
 
Re: Trump's a Massive Liar but his lies about his position on the Iraq War are Gargan

Well, I remember when Der Drumpf sent out the signal that a violent solution to a Clinton presidency may be necessary to prevent her from appointing SCOTUS justices. Of course, a couple days later after several surrogates gave conflicting explanations for what he REALLY meant (he meant voters; no, wait, he meant NRA lobbying power) until finally he let tweeted: Media desperate to distract from Clinton's anti-2A stance. I said pro-2A citizens must organize and get out vote to save our Constitution!) Of course, everyone in that audience knew what he meant and so did you. That "second amendment remedy" has been thrown around by sovereign-citizen nutcases for some time. And, of course, rightwingers are so merciful with the "gaffes" their politicians make but let one minor slip from HRC (e.g. "short circuit" instead of "short cut") and there are calls for congressional kangaroo hearings all over again. I know you think we can't see right through you all but you are transparent as air (and just as substantial).

It's well known what the reaction to the dog whistle from the media was. Those whistles are coming so fast and furious there must be enough to write a symphony by now.

Glad you got your stuff straightened out with your comrade Jane. Major gaff that was easily corrected.
 
Re: Trump's a Massive Liar but his lies about his position on the Iraq War are Gargan

What you see and hear when you watch a video of Clinton bears no resemblance to reality. All it does is flip the hate switch on in your brain.

True because the lies she is spewing are not reality and of course it flips the hate switch in my brain, it should do the same for you. Yours must be broken.
 
Re: Trump's a Massive Liar but his lies about his position on the Iraq War are Gargan

No, of course your highly doctored and carefully edited out-of-context quotes doesn't even come close to showing what you fervently want to believe it shows. Although it does reveal some things that you apparently missed. For example, it does include Comey's statement that there was no basis for any criminal charges which is immediately followed by his gratuitous and legally meaningless offering of a hypothetical possibility that someone might be charged with something for something like this which goes to his attempted sabotage of Clinton even as he was announcing the fact that no laws were broken. You might be interested in this bit of Comey's congressional testimony last year and contrasting it with the comment in your doctored video which claims that these emails were clearly marked "confidential":


I will say this for Comey, he was deft at providing quotes that satisfied both sides at one time or another. He's a very skilled bureaucrat.





Reality is not reality? LOL. You are a hoot.



Not at all. I have very little bearing or influence on much of anything, especially not national politics. But that doesn't alter the facts of Hillary long and scandal ridden career of 'public' (self) service. Especially not this latest pay to play scandal while she was SoS. The sum total of it all is that she's a corrupt political elite, and it's time for her to just retire from the public stage.
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Again, so now you are making believe the video didn't show those people making those statements, and tell me I'm not in touch with reality.

Pffttt!

Not willing to waste my time anymore with you.
 
Re: Trump's a Massive Liar but his lies about his position on the Iraq War are Gargan

It's well known what the reaction to the dog whistle from the media was. Those whistles are coming so fast and furious there must be enough to write a symphony by now.

Glad you got your stuff straightened out with your comrade Jane. Major gaff that was easily corrected.

Of course, you've got it bass-ackwards as you always must. The dog whistles are coming from Der Drumpf as he tries to rev of the most violence prone of his supporters to think they have permission to put that violence into political action. That explains the "second amendment remedy" for preventing Clinton from nominating SC justices just as he earlier said he couldn't guarantee there wouldn't be violence if he loses the election because, of course, the only reason he'd lose is if the election is rigged. This is what fascist demagogues do--whistle for the dogs among his followers (although they always try to couch it in a way they can try to deny responsibility should anything actually happen; in Der Drumpf case, however, he tends to leave a pretty unmistakeable trail).
 
Re: Trump's a Massive Liar but his lies about his position on the Iraq War are Gargan

Again, so now you are making believe the video didn't show those people making those statements, and tell me I'm not in touch with reality.

Pffttt!

Not willing to waste my time anymore with you.

That's the usual response when your sort can't get away with the BS. I've dealt with so many of you now that I'm almost an expert on your personality type.
 
Re: Trump's a Massive Liar but his lies about his position on the Iraq War are Gargan

Of course, you've got it bass-ackwards as you always must. The dog whistles are coming from Der Drumpf as he tries to rev of the most violence prone of his supporters to think they have permission to put that violence into political action. That explains the "second amendment remedy" for preventing Clinton from nominating SC justices just as he earlier said he couldn't guarantee there wouldn't be violence if he loses the election because, of course, the only reason he'd lose is if the election is rigged. This is what fascist demagogues do--whistle for the dogs among his followers (although they always try to couch it in a way they can try to deny responsibility should anything actually happen; in Der Drumpf case, however, he tends to leave a pretty unmistakeable trail).

No I don't, but I'm not surprised you think I do.

Maybe you still have some "stuff" blocking your view from the major diaper slinging gaff you committed earlier.
 
Re: Trump's a Massive Liar but his lies about his position on the Iraq War are Gargan

True because the lies she is spewing are not reality and of course it flips the hate switch in my brain, it should do the same for you. Yours must be broken.

I'm glad you admitted to your hate issues which completely overwhelm any claim you try to make to being a rational observer. Well done. Now we should work on that projection thingy you've got going.
 
Re: Trump's a Massive Liar but his lies about his position on the Iraq War are Gargan

No I don't, but I'm not surprised you think I do.

Maybe you still have some "stuff" blocking your view from the major diaper slinging gaff you committed earlier.

See, that's the big difference between people like you and people like me: when I make a mistake I own up to it. When you do you double down on it. That's why Der Drumpf is so attractive to people like you. You've all got the same personality "issues." That was glaringly obvious when you kept trying to fudge the climate data and it's gotten even worse. It seems to be a feature not a bug.
 
Re: Trump's a Massive Liar but his lies about his position on the Iraq War are Gargan

I'm glad you admitted to your hate issues which completely overwhelm any claim you try to make to being a rational observer. Well done. Now we should work on that projection thingy you've got going.

Hate does not make one irrational.
 
Re: Trump's a Massive Liar but his lies about his position on the Iraq War are Gargan

See, that's the big difference between people like you and people like me: when I make a mistake I own up to it. When you do you double down on it. That's why Der Drumpf is so attractive to people like you. You've all got the same personality "issues." That was glaringly obvious when you kept trying to fudge the climate data and it's gotten even worse. It seems to be a feature not a bug.

Fudge climate data? What are you on about?

I think there is far more stuff clogging your senses from your earlier efforts. I think you might want to consider a full delousing before continuing.
 
Re: Trump's a Massive Liar but his lies about his position on the Iraq War are Gargan

Jane, I may have mistaken your "assassinator-in-chief" sobriquet as a reference to Obama (since it's very similar to many rightwing attacks on him) but someone (ocean) tells me you were probably referring to Der Drumpf. If so, I abjectly apologize for my earlier response based on my faulty interpretation.

Oh man, I held my breath, stomped my feet, and burst into great fits of crying. Then I thought, "I'll fix that digital dude's wagon, for sure, and say something about his uncivil avatar personally giving ME the finger."

Then I woke up and it was all a bad dream!

Yeah. I used to think of Drumpf variously as little boy Trump or The Pillsbury Dough Boy in the beginning of the campaign. Now I think that gives him too much humanity. I used to think, "well, this nonsense will be all over soon and they'll carry him off to a locked ward," but he's given the thought of "all over soon" a chilling new spin for me with his assassination "joke."
 
Re: Trump's a Massive Liar but his lies about his position on the Iraq War are Gargan

Oh man, I held my breath, stomped my feet, and burst into great fits of crying. Then I thought, "I'll fix that digital dude's wagon, for sure, and say something about his uncivil avatar personally giving ME the finger."

Then I woke up and it was all a bad dream!

Yeah. I used to think of Drumpf variously as little boy Trump or The Pillsbury Dough Boy in the beginning of the campaign. Now I think that gives him too much humanity. I used to think, "well, this nonsense will be all over soon and they'll carry him off to a locked ward," but he's given the thought of "all over soon" a chilling new spin for me with his assassination "joke."

I'm forgiven, then?
 
Re: Trump's a Massive Liar but his lies about his position on the Iraq War are Gargan

Hate does not make one irrational.

You're actually admitting to being hate-driven and claiming to be rational at the same time. You're a Trumpeter, all right. Only that kind could contort rationality like that. BTW, being a Trumpeter automatically nullifies your being accepted as a legitimate critic of someone else's honesty. If you can support a documented pathological liar like him you've surrendered all self-respect and honor you might have had no matter how meagre.
 
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Re: Trump's a Massive Liar but his lies about his position on the Iraq War are Gargan

Fudge climate data? What are you on about?

I think there is far more stuff clogging your senses from your earlier efforts. I think you might want to consider a full delousing before continuing.

Maybe there's another climate-science-denying "ocean" with a different number behind it? Hey, thanks for the head-up on Jane. I managed to get the apology in before she ripped into me. I think it's all copacetic now.
 
Re: Trump's a Massive Liar but his lies about his position on the Iraq War are Gargan

Maybe there's another climate-science-denying "ocean" with a different number behind it? Hey, thanks for the head-up on Jane. I managed to get the apology in before she ripped into me. I think it's all copacetic now.

Must be.

I figured you'd rather be getting a room with her than jumping the goat like you did. :thumbs:
 
Re: Trump's a Massive Liar but his lies about his position on the Iraq War are Gargan

You're actually admitting to being hate-driven and claiming to be rational at the same time. You're a Trumpeter, all right. Only that kind could contort rationality like that.

There is no evidence that hate necessitates irrationality. Try again.
 
Re: Trump's a Massive Liar but his lies about his position on the Iraq War are Gargan

There is no evidence that hate necessitates irrationality. Try again.

Well, none of you Trumpeters have shown any sign of rationality in your hatred of Clinton. It's all based on mostly lies and flies in the face of investigation after investigation even by her most ardent enemies that fails to support the basis for you hatred. Meanwhile, you tolerated the most extreme degree of lying in her opponent and defend his most outrageous statements to the hild. I mean, when one of your number put up that silly, distorted, completely rigged and completely hyperpartisan attack video it's pretty strong evidence that's not a rational mind at work. But the clincher is the righteous indignation of that person when that sort of trash is refused as evidence of anything but irrational animosity. Puerile work and even more puerile reaction at work there. So it there's any "rationality" its that of a three-year-old not getting away with bad behavior. It would only be rational in the sense that it's normal three-year-old behavior so if that's what you're going for, I completely agree with you. Rational for a three-year-old.
 
Re: Trump's a Massive Liar but his lies about his position on the Iraq War are Gargan

The standard is that Obama should have been able to clean up the Republican mess in Iraq without a hitch. Here's how:

1. He should have dishonored the agreement made by the U.S. government with the Iraqi government and kept 150,000 troops there.
2. He should have upped the intelligence apparatus in Iraq to be on the lookout for potential new terrorist groups, or his intelligence should have been able to predict that ISIS was going to become what it did.
2A: Based on that, we should have been capable of stopping it before it began
3. Obama should have also made sure that American soldiers didn't get killed while exercising 1 & 2
4. He should have made sure no money was spent on 1 & 2.
5. Etcetera

In short, the bar isn't just set at one high place. It's a movable bar that is continually raised. For example, ISIS has suffered tremendous losses, been pushed back, and they are, for U.S. purposes, contained (while suffering minimal American losses in the process). But that's still an utter failure because ISIS has not become totally nonexistent.

Isis though is not contained, they still control parts of syria and iraq, and they moved their main front to libya which is in utter ruin with no central govt.

On other points, obama was bound by the sofa, and violating it would have caused hell, and the iraqi givt was too strict on their terms, demanding us soldiers be tried in iraqi courts rather than a militay tribunal.

Isis was not created by us leaving iraq, it existed for a long time then changed it's name. Isis thoug even with the us leaving did not have the funds or the personel to expand rapidly like they did. The fall of libya and continuing conflict in syria has left a power vacuum where they could operate, and expand rapidly.

Outside those it was merely raising the bar, liberals did it with bush, and conservatives do it with obama.
 
Re: Trump's a Massive Liar but his lies about his position on the Iraq War are Gargan

Obama in 2011 bragged about Iraq being " stable, Democratic and Sovereign ", amd then he pulled out all US forces and did NOTHING as ISIS ran roughshod through once liberted Iraqi cities killing men, women and children.

Trumps right on the money .

iraq said, if your military stays around to keep us safe they will be subject to iraqi law and justice system

Obama properly responded, **** you, stay safe. you are now on your own
 
Re: Trump's a Massive Liar but his lies about his position on the Iraq War are Gargan

iraq said, if your military stays around to keep us safe they will be subject to iraqi law and justice system

Obama properly responded, **** you, stay safe. you are now on your own

Really? Because in 2012 Obama said this....


For all of the excuses given by Obama and his supporters for bailing out of Iraq, one things clear.

He never had any intention of leaving US forces behind.

But lets say he had a good reason. There's no exscuse for allowing ISIS to basically run roughshod and unopposed through once liberated Iraq towns killing Men, Women and Children

There's no excuse for letting ISIS exploit a lack of US presence while they gained land, weapons and supporters
 
Re: Trump's a Massive Liar but his lies about his position on the Iraq War are Gargan

Do you really think it's just right-wingers that lie?

Have you ever heard about Hillary Clinton?

Who's the right-winger you're referring to? Can't be Donald Trump. He's a liberal Democrat running as a Republican.
 
Re: Trump's a Massive Liar but his lies about his position on the Iraq War are Gargan

iraq said, if your military stays around to keep us safe they will be subject to iraqi law and justice system

Obama properly responded, **** you, stay safe. you are now on your own

No president would have agreed to iraqs terms, conservative or liberal.
 
Re: Trump's a Massive Liar but his lies about his position on the Iraq War are Gargan

That's the usual response when your sort can't get away with the BS. I've dealt with so many of you now that I'm almost an expert on your personality type.

I'm not denying the content of the video and the words spoken by each of those two people.

That'd be you. Good luck with that.
 
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