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Socialism for the Uninformed

What a cop out. You don't understand it either and can provide no explanation then.

It's not a cop out. I can certainly see why some would be in favor of almost any political system. It doesn't mean they're wrong, it means they and I disagree.
 
So you agree that capitalism is a flawed system that needs Govt. to keep it in check and prevent it from self-destructing? That is after all the hard earned lesson that our ancestors suffered so much for.

I don't know of anyone who has ever said that any economy could operate without the law. That per se doesn't make capitalism or any other form of market flawed.

Do you think that socialism can be successful without the law? Even with the law, even a highly authoritarian form of government, it doesn't work.
 
It's not a cop out. I can certainly see why some would be in favor of almost any political system. It doesn't mean they're wrong, it means they and I disagree.

All right, then answer the question. Why do socialist governments so often mismanage the industries they own?
 
A definitive definition for socialism does not exist. It depends on the definer. In all discussions on socialism, it would help if the writer frst started with his or her definition. Then these threads wouldn't spend 3/4 of the time where one person calls the other person an idiot for not knowing what socialism is.

A definition of Socialism does exist. It just an ideology based on lies. Socialist have to lie to sell their bad ideas but their ultimate goal is no different than the writings of Karl Marx. `
 
All right, then answer the question. Why do socialist governments so often mismanage the industries they own?

I would attribute the failures to corrupted socialism meaning the people in charge do eventually ruin it. It reminds me of that Louis C.K. bit about where human greatness stems from -- 'because we **** others over.'
 
I don't know of anyone who has ever said that any economy could operate without the law. That per se doesn't make capitalism or any other form of market flawed.

Do you think that socialism can be successful without the law? Even with the law, even a highly authoritarian form of government, it doesn't work.

LOL When did this discussion become about anarchy? Why would you think that is what I am comparing? The laws I am talking about address the specific problems of monopolies, income inequality and financial risk taking that are the major flaws of Capitalism. They all point to a major flaw in human nature called GREED. Greed will be the downfall of all capitalist societies if Govt. does not address these flaws. That is where socialism comes in. Strongly progressive taxes, strict regulation of financial institutions, and comprehensive safety nets help insure that greed will not be the major emotion that pervades a society.
 
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A definition of Socialism does exist. It just an ideology based on lies. Socialist have to lie to sell their bad ideas but their ultimate goal is no different than the writings of Karl Marx. `

Actually true socialism is defined as public ownership of the means of production. This does not exist successfully anywhere. Venezuela is about as close as it gets.
 
Because they have no vested interest in the industry.

I'm sure that in Venezuela the leaders hope like hell that the industries they appropriated can operate successfully. Otherwise they are very close to being hung from the lamp posts. But they can't seem to manage it. They probably thought they could, but they can't. Why is this? I think it's simply because they had no idea how hard it is to manage a company or a business. Their ideology blinds them to this.
 
I'm sure that in Venezuela the leaders hope like hell that the industries they appropriated can operate successfully. Otherwise they are very close to being hung from the lamp posts. But they can't seem to manage it. They probably thought they could, but they can't. Why is this? I think it's simply because they had no idea how hard it is to manage a company or a business. Their ideology blinds them to this.

You cant run a business like you run a country. I'm sure they figured if it goes into debt we'll just shore it up with tax dollars, raise the debt limit.
 
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