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Businesses Refusing Service To Certain Customers

c0wardlyli0n said:
It's for the same reason that Pokémon Go is so popular.
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Pokemon Go is fun. Just started. Gets me off my ass and walking miles. And I'm a middle aged old fart.
 
Moderate Right said:
1.)Since it is common knowledge I didn't think I needed to prove anything. Other posters did post links.
2.) I don't know of any "righties" who refuse to serve cops. It's a hypocritical lefty thing.
3.) Please feel free to post any links you want where righties have refused service to police.
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1.) its common knowledge lefties dont want to serve cops? like i said when you can prove that please let me know
2.) yes your whole post is a hypothetical made up thing thats obvious lol
3.) another lie and strawman, i never made that claim i asked you to support your statements and answer my questions and you cant/wont. Let us know when you can, thanks
 
poweRob said:
Pokemon Go is fun. Just started. Gets me off my ass and walking miles. And I'm a middle aged old fart.
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It's basically a corporate spy program to gather the information of those using the app and then it sells it to the highest bidder. No thank you. I'm 40 years old myself. I get out and exercise cause there's all kinds of sexy women out there doing the same thing just on my street alone.
 
c0wardlyli0n said:
It's basically a corporate spy program to gather the information of those using the app and then it sells it to the highest bidder. No thank you. I'm 40 years old myself. I get out and exercise cause there's all kinds of sexy women out there doing the same thing just on my street alone.
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lol... All apps are spy programs anymore. This one is a resource hog for sure. After just 15 minutes the phone feels like it's going to burst into flames and the battery is dropping fast.
 
poweRob said:
lol... All apps are spy programs anymore. This one is a resource hog for sure. After just 15 minutes the phone feels like it's going to burst into flames and the battery is dropping fast.
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That's pretty true. I am leery of any software that is free unless I know it's part of an open source project. I laugh when a simple app like a flashlight needs access to my contacts. Anyway, I wish you the best with your hunt for Pokémon and I'm glad it's got you off yer butt at least.
 
c0wardlyli0n said:
That's pretty true. I am leery of any software that is free unless I know it's part of an open source project. I laugh when a simple app like a flashlight needs access to my contacts. Anyway, I wish you the best with your hunt for Pokémon and I'm glad it's got you off yer butt at least.
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It's one thing that does. Part of my job is getting paid to hike. Like today. Unfortunately I wasn't prepared for going up a stream but... oh well, beats having to be in the office.

<------ Open source fan myself.
 
poweRob said:
It's one thing that does. Part of my job is getting paid to hike. Like today. Unfortunately I wasn't prepared for going up a stream but... oh well, beats having to be in the office.
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What job pays you to hike? I want in! lol
 
Lutherf said:
Ohio restaurant serves glass in police officer's sandwich | Columbus Ledger-Enquirer
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It's not clear what happened there, and unfortunately glass does wind up in restaurant food on occasion.


There was also the teriyaki place in Washington or Oregon that was in the news all last week for refusing to serve cops.
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Officers were at a booth, eating; they spilled some soup on the floor; some customers complained; a sitcom-like misunderstanding ensued, due to language issues. They did not refuse to serve police officers because they were police officers.

Most of the other cases are similarly trivial or based on misunderstandings. E.g. in one case, someone covering the drive-through cracked a joke about not serving police; they were subsequently fired.

It's worth noting that none of these accusations say anything about political affiliation. None of them are doing it for political reasons. No one is proclaiming their First Amendment rights to refuse to serve police.

I.e. it sounds to me like the claims of attacks on police at restaurants are the kind of excessive sensitivity and victimhood that the right so often cites to vilify the left. Oh, the irony....
 
Visbek said:
It's not clear what happened there, and unfortunately glass does wind up in restaurant food on occasion.



Officers were at a booth, eating; they spilled some soup on the floor; some customers complained; a sitcom-like misunderstanding ensued, due to language issues. They did not refuse to serve police officers because they were police officers.

Most of the other cases are similarly trivial or based on misunderstandings. E.g. in one case, someone covering the drive-through cracked a joke about not serving police; they were subsequently fired.

It's worth noting that none of these accusations say anything about political affiliation. None of them are doing it for political reasons. No one is proclaiming their First Amendment rights to refuse to serve police.

I.e. it sounds to me like the claims of attacks on police at restaurants are the kind of excessive sensitivity and victimhood that the right so often cites to vilify the left. Oh, the irony....
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Louisiana Dairy Queen worker with herpes spit on cops burger - NY Daily News
BATON ROUGE, La. — Police have arrested a fast-food worker they say was suffering from herpes and spat on an officer’s burger.
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https://www.policeone.com/bizarre/articles/6783840-Pizza-Hut-manager-arrested-for-spitting-on-cops-food/
ERWIN, Tenn. — A Pizza Hut manager was arrested after an officer caught her spitting on his pizza as he waited to pick it up.
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Ex-McDonald's worker gets jail for spitting in cop's food - CBS News
(CBS/AP) IRON MOUNTAIN, Mich. - A 24-year-old former McDonald's restaurant employee who prosecutors say spit into a police officer's sandwich in Michigan has been sentenced to at least 29 months behind bars.
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Those are from the first page of a quick search. There was also this piece which goes back farther.
Spit Happens! A History of Spitting in Cops' Food | Complex

A lot of cops are out there eating a lot of meals and this kind of stuff certainly doesn't happen very often but, then again, cops rarely shoot perps but that has become quite a thing in certain circles.
 
AGENT J said:
1.) its common knowledge lefties dont want to serve cops? like i said when you can prove that please let me know
2.) yes your whole post is a hypothetical made up thing thats obvious lol
3.) another lie and strawman, i never made that claim i asked you to support your statements and answer my questions and you cant/wont. Let us know when you can, thanks
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The statements are already supported by posts in this thread. It's not my fault that you are too lazy to read through the whole thread. I never said ALL lefties. I said that whenever someone wants to refuse service to cops that they are all lefties who do this. If you want to post any links that people who refuse service to cops are righties then have at it.
 
Moderate Right said:
The statements are already supported by posts in this thread. It's not my fault that you are too lazy to read through the whole thread. I never said ALL lefties. I said that whenever someone wants to refuse service to cops that they are all lefties who do this. If you want to post any links that people who refuse service to cops are righties then have at it.
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There's a lot of fat cops. I don't think they're having any difficulty finding a place to stuff their face. Just sayin'.....
 
Moderate Right said:
The statements are already supported by posts in this thread. It's not my fault that you are too lazy to read through the whole thread. I never said ALL lefties. I said that whenever someone wants to refuse service to cops that they are all lefties who do this. If you want to post any links that people who refuse service to cops are righties then have at it.
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Translation: you have ZERO facts that make this a "leftie" thing and you got caught falsely, dishonestly and illogically grouping people all together with an issue that doesnt actually pertain to anybody. Thanks thats what I thought LMAO

Your OP says LEFT and LEFTIES thats all of them unless you specify otherwise. Just like I condemn dishonesty posts when they say something like "why does the right hate gays." Its a factually wrong statement. If you would like to now admit to the fact that your OP is inaccurate that's fine by me but it wont change the fact that its inaccurate and and you have nothing to support your false claims. Lastly NOBODY posted anything in this thread that supports your false claims either, Ive read the whole thing. :popcorn2:
 
AGENT J said:
Translation: you have ZERO facts that make this a "leftie" thing and you got caught falsely, dishonestly and illogically grouping people all together with an issue that doesnt actually pertain to anybody. Thanks thats what I thought LMAO

Your OP says LEFT and LEFTIES thats all of them unless you specify otherwise. Just like I condemn dishonesty posts when they say something like "why does the right hate gays." Its a factually wrong statement. If you would like to now admit to the fact that your OP is inaccurate that's fine by me but it wont change the fact that its inaccurate and and you have nothing to support your false claims. Lastly NOBODY posted anything in this thread that supports your false claims either, Ive read the whole thing. :popcorn2:
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You sir are a dishonest debater who seems totally fine with the hypocrisy of the left accusing the right of being biggots while refusing service to our officers in blue is ok.
 
Moderate Right said:
You sir are a dishonest debater who seems totally fine with the hypocrisy of the left accusing the right of being biggots while refusing service to our officers in blue is ok.
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Translation: you STILL have ZERO facts that make this a "leftie" thing and you got caught falsely, dishonestly and illogically grouping people all together with an issue that doesnt actually pertain to anybody.
One again thank you, thats what I thought :laughat:
 
ludin said:
What it says is that congress (which includes the state) all not infringe on religious or the free exercise thereof.
forcing bakers who do not believe in gay marriage to celebrate something that violate their religious beliefs is unconstitutional.
whether you like it or not. this is backed up by the freedom for reformation act.
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Actually it doesn't say that. What it says is:

Congress (which does not include the states) shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

Nothing at all about infringement. That's the second.

Having said that, I agree. The government has no business writing laws forcing someone to violate their religious beliefs over a readily available cake.
 
Both are bad, but (unfortunately) you can refuse to serve cops just like you could refuse fast food workers, bankers, liberals, conservatives, etc. Hell, as long as you are a membership club, you could ban gays, straights, Germans, whatever.

Anyways probably why they aren't is because it isn't illegal (and also not that well-known I'd argue, I certainly hadn't heard about it).
 
Cephus said:
You should never be denied because of what you are, only because of actions taken on site that disrupt the business.
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What do mean by disrupt? Harm the business?
 
ludin said:
Several cashiers and staff members of various fast food chains have been refusing to serve police officers.
In those instances that it has been reported they have been promptly fired.
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Well, it is interesting to think about that. They are harming the business because of a personal dislike. I can't really see anything wrong there.
 
Diving Mullah said:
First of all I don't know of any business that says they don't want to serve police officers. Assuming what you say is even remotely true, because one is discrimination, the other is not. You can not discriminate against race, gender, sex or creed.

You can not say I don't what to sever black, gays, lesbians or chinese, but you can say I don't want to serve unaccompanied teenagers. Now if an officer is off duty he is no longer an "Officer", but you can not be a off duty gay, black, woman or lesbian! But actually there are clauses that say you can't refuse service or discriminate bases on what people do either. So I really like to see the link. And even if the owner, or clerk did that, he/she most likely will be fired or fined!



Diving Mullah
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They're both discrimination. One is legal while the other is not. That is the difference.


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jimbo said:
Actually it doesn't say that. What it says is:

Congress (which does not include the states) shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

Nothing at all about infringement. That's the second.

Having said that, I agree. The government has no business writing laws forcing someone to violate their religious beliefs over a readily available cake.
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Nit pick infringe prohibit pretty much the same thing.
Other than that I agree and if you read the original wording of the first amendment it says that exactly.
 
joG said:
Well, it is interesting to think about that. They are harming the business because of a personal dislike. I can't really see anything wrong there.
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It is a business decision in general. It is left up to the business to fire them or not.
 
ludin said:
It is a business decision in general. It is left up to the business to fire them or not.
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And is quite a different question in most aspects to the one of whether the company can withhold service for due cause.
 
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