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Chrisis of Character: A White House Secret Service Officer Discloses

Μολὼν λαβέ;1066022952 said:
What other side of the story do you want him to provide?

One that makes Hillary not prone to maniacal fits?
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The fact that you're posting an apparent assumption that she has "maniacal fits" indicates that "getting both sides of the story" may not be real high on your list of priorities.
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1066023131 said:
Do you just say words when you read or do they provide meaning?
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I'm trying to get you to clarify your apparently-contradictory statements. You said it was a matter of public record, but then said only part of it is a matter of public record.

The non-public information, therefore, is new information he is dishonorably releasing.

A dishonorable man isn't trustworthy. Unless you're a Republican, anyway.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
The fact that you're posting an apparent assumption that she has "maniacal fits" indicates that "getting both sides of the story" may not be real high on your list of priorities.
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Feel free to present her side of the story. :popcorn2:

Can't wait...
 
Deuce said:
I'm trying to get you to clarify your apparently-contradictory statements. You said it was a matter of public record, but then said only part of it is a matter of public record.

The non-public information, therefore, is new information he is dishonorably releasing.

A dishonorable man isn't trustworthy. Unless you're a Republican, anyway.
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I would advise that you should read the book since you seem incapable of keeping up but I'm sure it would only confuse you further.

Maybe a picture book version will be released soon. Hope this helps...
 
Different books, different authors, similar observations...

“Where is the G*damn f**king flag! I want the G*damn f**king flag up every morning at f**king sunrise.”
-From the book Inside the White House, by Ronald Kessler, p.244 – Hillary to staff at the Arkansas Governor’s mansion on Labor Day 1991.
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F**k off! It’s enough I have to see you ****-kickers every day, I’m not going to talk to you too!! Just do your G*damn job and keep your mouth shut.”
-From the book American Evita, by Christopher Anderson, p.90 – Hillary to her State Trooper body guards after one of them greeted her with “Good Morning”
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“If you want to remain on this detail, get your f**king ass over here and grab those bags!”
From the book The First Partner: Hillary Rodham Clinton, by Joyce Milton p.259 – Hillary to a Secret Service Agent who was reluctant to carry her luggage because he wanted to keep his hands free in case of an incident.
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“Stay the f**k back, stay the f**k back away from me! Don’t come within ten yards of me, or else! Just f**king do as I say, Okay!!?”
-From the book Unlimited Access: An FBI Agent Inside the Clinton White House, by Clinton FBI Agent in Charge, Gary Aldrich, p.139- Hillary screaming at her Secret Service detail.
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“Come on Bill, put your d**k up! You can’t f**k her here!!”
From the book Inside the White House, by Ronald Kessler, p.243 – Hillary to Gov. Clinton when she spots him talking with an attractive female.
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“Where’s the miserable c**k sucker!”
-From the book The Truth About Hillary: What She Knew, When She Knew It, and How Far She’ll Go to Become President, by Edward Klein, p. 15- Hillary shouting at a Secret Service officer.
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“Put this on the ground! I left my sunglasses in the limo. I need those sunglasses. We need to go back!”
From the book Dereliction of Duty, by Robert Patterson, p.71-72 – Hillary to Marine One helicopter pilot to turn back while en route to Air Force One.
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This ill-tempered, violent, loud mouth, hateful and abusive woman wants to be your next president and have total control as commander and chief of our Military , the very Military for which she has shown incredible disdain throughout her public life. Surely the people of the United States can easily do better than this.

– Ed Schriber Col. USMC (Ret.)
“Semper Fidelis”
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The filthy mouth of Hillary Clinton |
 
Did someone say 'dictator'? I think Hillary looks stunning, modeling her clothes from the Lil' Miss Dictator line at Bloomingdale's.

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Two comments.

The word "disclose" in your title is prejudicial. What the former agent did was allege. The only disclosure is his animus for the Clinton's.

Bill Clinton did the right and proper thing when he lied, even under oath, about Monica. No gentleman could have done otherwise.
 
JackA said:
Two comments.

The word "disclose" in your title is prejudicial. What the former agent did was allege. The only disclosure is his animus for the Clinton's.

Bill Clinton did the right and proper thing when he lied, even under oath, about Monica. No gentleman could have done otherwise.
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You realize Bill lied to save himself, not Monica. Typically the words "lie" and "gentleman" are mutually exclusive.
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1066025970 said:
You realize Bill lied to save himself, not Monica. Typically the words "lie" and "gentleman" are mutually exclusive.
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Sure I realize that. It doesn't change his obligation.

The words are not mutually exclusive. They have separate references.
 
JackA said:
Bill Clinton did the right and proper thing when he lied, even under oath ...
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Thanks for being honest on how Liberals think. It will be the right and proper thing for you to vote for Hillary then because she is an exceptional liar.
 
blaxshep said:
Thanks for being honest on how Liberals think. It will be the right and proper thing for you to vote for Hillary then because she is an exceptional liar.
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ooh, I get to use any random guy's post as "being honest on how libertarians think?" This'll be great!
 
JackA said:
Two comments.

The word "disclose" in your title is prejudicial. What the former agent did was allege. The only disclosure is his animus for the Clinton's.

Bill Clinton did the right and proper thing when he lied, even under oath, about Monica. No gentleman could have done otherwise.
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Wait, a "gentleman" cheats on his wife with a young intern, and inserts various tobacco products into her bodily orifices? Shirley you jest.
 
Deuce said:
Um, other than "has a collar" what exactly do you think is similar about those three outfits?
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Powers of observation not your strong point, eh?
 
countryboy said:
Powers of observation not your strong point, eh?
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One's a military jacket with pockets and exposed buttons. Another is bright freaking yellow, hidden buttons, no pockets.

The third is a fictional character.

You're a countryboy, countryboy. Have you ever worn boots?

Do you know who has also worn boots?

That's right. Jenny McCarthy.
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1066025168 said:
Feel free to present her side of the story. :popcorn2:

Can't wait...
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No.

The simple fact that a guy put out accusations - most of which are unverifiable, and whose book apparently didn't even attempt to provide any side of the story other than his own - doesn't make them true in the least.

If you yourself believe it's right to make accusations willy-nilly instead of providing both sides of the story, that's your business.
 
Dear Brother Molon,

For all the world, it feels like somebody on this thread is aggressively and uncivily trying to pick a fight. Would you agree?
 
Deuce said:
Um, other than "has a collar" what exactly do you think is similar about those three outfits?
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Lil' Miss Dictator approves of your comment.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
No.

The simple fact that a guy put out accusations - most of which are unverifiable, and whose book apparently didn't even attempt to provide any side of the story other than his own - doesn't make them true in the least.

If you yourself believe it's right to make accusations willy-nilly instead of providing both sides of the story, that's your business.
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He's only one of dozens of people who worked for our around Hillary in the past who've said that she is dishonest and manipulative in real life. The stories about her being this way go all the way back to the early 1970's!

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truthatallcost said:
He's only one of dozens of people who worked for our around Hillary in the past who've said that she is dishonest and manipulative in real life. The stories about her being this way go all the way back to the early 1970's!

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"Truthatallcost"???? Does it matter to you one whit that Snopes has shown the accusation you just posted was false?

But I get it - if it's an accusation of a crime against any politician named Clinton (or Obama, for that matter), it MUST be true, regardless of all evidence otherwise.
 
The crisis of character belongs to the minion trying to make a fast buck from his kiss and tell (without the kiss) book.
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1066020653 said:
Crisis of Character is an interesting read that sheds light on Bill and Hillary as well as life in the Clinton White from an up-close personal experience.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1455568872/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=123feebet-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=1455568872&linkId=ba1c65f51f6d365bec367af8a47899e6

I have read about 3/4 of the book and would like to see comments from those who are reading or have actually read the book. What do you think?
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Did you finish it? What was your final conclusion?

I'm reading it more for entertainment purposes now that she's political toast.

I'm about half-way through. At least so far there's actually very little about Hillary. What you hear in the teasers has been pretty much it, and even those lack detail. It's kind of a hard read for me in the sense that, while I believe the author is basically honest in his motivations and information, he's also an arrogant prick. It's a quick read, but I'm doing a lot of eye-rolling.

There a lot of redundant minutiae regarding duty and service and protocol that could be eliminated. I'm at the part where he just got subpoena'd. We'll see where it goes from there.

I read though this thread, and it's funny that the usual suspects on each side display their clear close-minded bias. The die-hard conservatives believe every bit, while the die-hard liberals dismiss everything out-of-hand and without knowledge of which they speak.

I'll try to come back when I have finished to give some final thoughts.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
No.

The simple fact that a guy put out accusations - most of which are unverifiable, and whose book apparently didn't even attempt to provide any side of the story other than his own - doesn't make them true in the least.

If you yourself believe it's right to make accusations willy-nilly instead of providing both sides of the story, that's your business.
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Does this also apply to the Russia investigation? A lot of willy-nilly accusations, unverifiable claims, lack of evidence...

Or are the goalposts moving again?

I am no fan of the Clintons and if I thought something like this would actually have them called to account for their shenanigans I would cheer. Unfortunately, like most political "dish out the dirt" books, it is preaching to the choir. I personally would probably find it fascinating but I don't know of a single Democrat (or never-Trumper) that would have a change of heart and mind over it. Maybe a couple of independents in the margin but by now, people either believe they are corrupt or not.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
The fact that you're posting an apparent assumption that she has "maniacal fits" indicates that "getting both sides of the story" may not be real high on your list of priorities.
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Actually, there was another book I read a couple of years ago, by a different former secret service agent. He wrote about all the presidents and first ladies that were there when he was. They all did not like Hillary as she had outbursts of rage and tended to treat them and other employees badly. I'll have to look it up.


I think it was: In the President's Secret Service: Behind the Scenes with Agents in the Line of Fire and the Presidents They Protect by Ronald Kessler
 
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holbritter said:
Actually, there was another book I read a couple of years ago, by a different former secret service agent. He wrote about all the presidents and first ladies that were there when he was. They all did not like Hillary as she had outbursts of rage and tended to treat them and other employees badly. I'll have to look it up.


I think it was: In the President's Secret Service: Behind the Scenes with Agents in the Line of Fire and the Presidents They Protect by Ronald Kessler
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Maybe it is "The First Family Detail", by Kessler? I recently bought that one, too, but have not started it yet.
 
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