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1.6M Green Cards to Immigrants from Predominantly Muslim Countries since 9/11

Kurmugeon said:
Some threads on this forum have been making very misleading claims to the number of Muslims Obama is bringing to America.

For the Record:

Muslim Immigration To U.S. Staggering -- More Evidence Obama Is Attempting To Change America







https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2015/05/1m-immigrants-from-muslim-countries



Obama admits his actions and defends them:

Obama, defending immigration, says Muslim refugees are like the Catholics of a century ago


Questions for Debate:

If FDR had hugely increased the number of NAZIS Party Member Germans being allowed to immigrate into America after the fall of Poland to the Blitzkrieg, what would Americans have done?

Do you wonder how the surviving family members of the 9/11, the Boston Marathon Bombing, and the San Bernadino Massacre feel about the vast increases in Obama's Muslim Immigrant Green Cards?

Will this policy be changed by Hillary, or Trump, next February 2017?

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O. M. G. :roll:
 
Kurmugeon said:
Ok. As a representative of the Libertarian Party and the Gary Johnson campaign, you've now gone on record that if elected, President Gary Johnson will continue to issue 100K Green-Cards to Muslims per month for his years in office.

For just the one four year term, that would be a new 4.8 Million Muslims Immigrants, and 4.8 Million Jobs taken by others, from American Born Citizens...

Wow... just the Militant, supporting of Jihad, Government violent overthrow, and Sharia Law 50% segment of the Imported Muslims would then be a whopping 4X as large as the entire U.S. Standing Military!

Well....

WE HEARD YOU! Loud and Clear!

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Looks like you might need to change candidates and parties if banning Muslims is so important to you.

Gary Johnson slams Donald Trump's immigration

Newly-minted Libertarian presidential nominee Gary Johnson slammed Donald Trump's immigration plan on Wednesday.

"[It's] unbelievably misinformed, unbelievably incendiary when it comes to these remarks," Johnson said in an interview with CBSN's Josh Elliott.​

There there's this:

Gary Johnson Running For President, Call Trump's Plans "Just Whacked - Just Nuts!"

"I get why Donald Trump is appealing," said Johnson. "I get the notion of 'I’m my own guy, I make my own decisions.' I made that same pitch in 2012. I don’t think I said anything as stupid. He's going to build a wall along the border with Mexico. Muslims are going to be barred from entering the country! He's going to kill the families of terrorists! That is just whacked—just nuts. Holy cow! It’s crazy!"​
 
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Kurmugeon said:
It will be a great day... if my wife and/or daughter, can find a JOB, that hasn't been taken by a Muslim Green Card Holder...

I guess you don't happen to live in a "Sanctuary City" which is host to large numbers of Obama's Imports... so I guess you might just not know any better.

You see, as Obama so wisely told U.S., "Elections have REAL Consequences".

Have a nice day. :)

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If your wife and daughter can't find a job now, I hate to tell you but it's not a Muslim's fault. Personal responsibility.
 
poweRob said:
If your wife and daughter can't find a job now, I hate to tell you but it's not a Muslim's fault. Personal responsibility.
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Clearly my wife and daughter made a poor life choice if they wanted a JOB in America!

How dare they think that being Born and American to Christian Parents would be a proper, and "Personally Responsible" Choice to gain employment!

See.... they screwed completely, before they were even born!

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Kurmugeon said:
Clearly my wife and daughter made a poor life choice if they wanted a JOB in America!

How dare they thing that being Born and American to Christian Parents would be a proper, and "Personally Responsible" Choice to gain employment!

See.... they screwed completely, before they were even born!

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Why do you hate America so much?

And good luck trying to convince any sane person that Christians have life soooo rough in America.
 
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americanwoman said:
Do you really think Obama is trying to turn this country Muslim?
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You tell me?!

Forget Obama.

Why is the now Far-Left Oriented Democratic Party doing this?

From a political election victory demographic analysis, it makes no sense.

If the Democratic Party, Obama & Crew, is willing to abandon the Working, American-Born, Christian, Voter Bloc, for the much, much smaller, combined, Illegal Mexican and Muslim Immigrant Voter Bloc, (who are actually not Legitimate Voters in the first place!)...

... Then they are planning on something OTHER than gaining and keeping POWER by the outcome of an Election.

Not even Massive Voter Fraud by the illegals will generate enough votes to overcome an 80% working class, Native-Born, Vote Against the Democratic Party.

They are NOT Stupid!

They will NOT give up POWER willingly!

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The mulsims are coming the muslims are coming!!!!!!
Run for the hills
 
With so many Native-Born American Citizens out of work, does America need ANY immigrants of any kind ATM?

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There are people in Congress objecting to the costs:

Sessions: Obama's Syrian refugee plan to cost $55 billion, demands it be killed | Washington Examiner

Sessions: Obama's Syrian refugee plan to cost $55 billion, demands it be killed
By Paul Bedard (@SecretsBedard) • 11/16/15 1:05 PM

Moving fast to prevent the type of terror murder Syrian-refugees bloodied Paris with, a key senator Monday moved to kill funds for President Obama's controversial and potentially dangerous plan to bring 85,000-100,000 refugees to the United States.

Sen. Jeff Sessions, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee's Subcommittee on Immigration and the National Interest, said in a letter to Senate appropriators that funding the program would amount to an invitation to foreign-born terrorists unleashing their venom on Americans.

"The barbaric attacks in Paris — an assault on civilization itself — add immense new urgency," the Alabama Republican wrote.

In demanding hearings on the president's plan, he also said that the cost to resettle the refugees could soar past $55 billion and they would be allowed to receive housing, welfare and food stamps.

"The current proposal will amount to a blank check to President Obama to carry out his entire refugee resettlement plan," Sessions warned.

The letter backs up calls from other lawmakers and even state governors to end the program in light of evidence that some involved in the Paris killings last week had Syrian passports.

Below is Sessions' letter:

"Dear Colleagues:



In my capacity as Chairman of the Senate Subcommittee on Immigration and the National Interest, I write to respectfully request that any upcoming appropriations legislation – including any Omnibus legislation – require Congressional approval for the President's refugee resettlement plans and the funds to carry them out.

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This article and letter were from Nov 2015.

I am told that the price tag is now up to $108 Billion.

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Kurmugeon said:
With so many Native-Born American Citizens out of work, does America need ANY immigrants of any kind ATM?

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Is that quote from a Cherokee or Apache?
 
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Quag said:
Is that quote from a Cherokee or Apache?
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Both, along with 100s of Millions of other Native Americans. We were all Born in the United States!

Or is the Democratic Party now removing the U.S. Citizenship from anyone not a "Person of Color" or from any not descended from Native-American-Indian-Tribes?

That sounds like another election winning campaign platform plank! Go For IT!

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Kurmugeon said:
Both, along with 100s of Millions of other Native Americans. We were all Born in the United States!

Or is the Democratic Party now removing the U.S. Citizenship from anyone not a "Person of Color" or from any not descended from Native-American-Indian-Tribes?

That sounds like another election winning campaign platform plank! Go For IT!

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What is it like on the dark side?
 
Here is an article outlining the years from 2010 to 2015, and Obama's 680,000 Muslim Imports:

‘Staggering’: 680,000 Muslims to U.S. under Obama


'Staggering': 680,000 Muslims to U.S. under Obama
Green-card totals over 5 years enough to populate D.C.
Published: 11/25/2015 at 12:55 PM

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The U.S. issued 680,000 green cards to migrants from Muslim-majority countries in the five-year period encompassing 2009 through 2013, according to Department of Homeland Security data.

This Islamic “invasion,” as some are calling it, occurred on the Obama administration’s watch, with plans for 10,000 Syrian Muslims grabbing much of the headlines. But the actual number is many times higher with a refugee program that is rooted in the 1980s and has the support of both parties.

The U.S. has brought in more than 1.5 million Muslims through the refugee program since the passage of the Refugee Act of 1980. They have been coming from Islamic states with active jihadist movements such as Somalia, Bangladesh, Burma, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Bosnia and the Democratic Republic of Congo.

To put this five-year tally – 680,000 – in context, it surpasses the total population of Washington, D.C., which is 660,000.

Yet, the Gang of Eight immigration “reform” bill co-sponsored by GOP presidential candidate Marco Rubio would have tripled the number of green cards being issued.

image: http://www.wnd.com/files/2015/06/jeff-sessions.jpg
Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala.

Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala.

The data was released by Sen. Jeff Session, R-Ala., who serves on four Senate committees: Armed Services, Budget, Environment and Public Works, and Judiciary, where he is chairman of the Subcommittee on Immigration and the National Interest.

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So, of the 1.6 Million total, with those in 2016, over 800,000, or half of the Muslim Imports from the last 16 years, are solely from the Obama Era.

Well, for those stating "Its Bush's Fault", well, .... No.

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Kurmugeon said:
Here is an article outlining the years from 2010 to 2015, and Obama's 680,000 Muslim Imports:

‘Staggering’: 680,000 Muslims to U.S. under Obama



So, of the 1.6 Million total, with those in 2016, over 800,000, or half of the Muslim Imports from the last 16 years, are solely from the Obama Era.

Well, for those stating "Its Bush's Fault", well, .... No.

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Your source's(and I use the term loosely, it is WND, which is kinda like using a fantasy novel as a source for politics)headline is so dishonest it is unreal. As the article(again, I use the term loosely) states that it is green cards to people in Muslim majority countries, which means that the actual number of muslims green cards is somewhat less if the number of immigrants is proportional to population(and more likely, it isn't, and the number of muslims is even less). Why do you use sources that lie to you?
 
This is anecdotal, but the lot of muslims I know who have migrated to America are well educated and sick of the **** going on in the ME. Ph.Ds, MBBS, PharmDs, all people who've worked their butts off to get here. I see you fear them.
 
Fruityfact said:
This is anecdotal, but the lot of muslims I know who have migrated to America are well educated and sick of the **** going on in the ME. Ph.Ds, MBBS, PharmDs, all people who've worked their butts off to get here. I see you fear them.
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The war of terror could be part of why - according to the OP - immigration from those countries increased so much under Bush and declined to more normal levels under Obama.
 
Kurmugeon said:
Some threads on this forum have been making very misleading claims to the number of Muslims Obama is bringing to America.

For the Record:

Muslim Immigration To U.S. Staggering -- More Evidence Obama Is Attempting To Change America







https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2015/05/1m-immigrants-from-muslim-countries



Obama admits his actions and defends them:

Obama, defending immigration, says Muslim refugees are like the Catholics of a century ago


Questions for Debate:

If FDR had hugely increased the number of NAZIS Party Member Germans being allowed to immigrate into America after the fall of Poland to the Blitzkrieg, what would Americans have done?

Do you wonder how the surviving family members of the 9/11, the Boston Marathon Bombing, and the San Bernadino Massacre feel about the vast increases in Obama's Muslim Immigrant Green Cards?

Will this policy be changed by Hillary, or Trump, next February 2017?

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All those countries wth the largest numbers seem to be countries we have ruined, or threatened to ruin, maybe they are just fleeing to america because we do not bomb ourselves or overthrow our own govt?
 
How many of these Muslim immigrants are people who worked with American forces during our little jaunts within their countries and as a consequence had to choose between death or immigration?
 
beerftw said:
All those countries wth the largest numbers seem to be countries we have ruined, or threatened to ruin, maybe they are just fleeing to america because we do not bomb ourselves or overthrow our own govt?
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Yet, give Obama time...

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Redress said:
President.

If you where anyone reading a hysterical appeal to emotion, could you react to it with anything other than contemp?
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Kind of like the hysterical appeal to emotion that the media used when showing us pictures of Syrian children trying to get out of Syria last year? Then 130 people were massacred at Bataclan shortly thereafter.
 
Kurmugeon said:
So far, from the Hillary camp, on this thread, we've have nothing but laughter and derision...

Yet this is the issue which Launched Trump from behind into the leader position in the primary contest.

And I've explored a bit of the security and Terrorist Attack Emotional issues, but I have not yet even begun to look at the Domestic Fiscal issues:

Those 1.6 Million Green Cards... which specifically allow the Immigrants to WORK in the U.S.,... are 1.6 Million JOBS which otherwise might have gone to needy American Born Citizens.... and with Obama's policies, the number of those JOBS lost is growing at a rate of 80-100K per month... considerably faster than new JOBS are being created!

So, we have nothing but contempt for the concerns from the Hillary Camp.

I have to assume that means that the Hillary Supporters and the Hillary Campaign plans to continue the Obama Policies, and in Feb, 2017, if Hillary is elected, the rate of Muslim Green Cards will stay extremely high, or even go UP!?

I have to assume that means that Hillary Campaign finds this position to be an advantageous campaign platform plank, which they will proudly hail in the coming Trump vs. Hillary Debates?

I have to assume that means Hillary et al, believes this is an Election winning position to take on this issue.... Right?!

:)

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Pseudo-liberal collectivists are glad to serve as apologists for Islamic jihad, because they dislike America almost as much as the jihadists do. Their shared contempt for the United States makes them natural allies. Andy McCarthy documented this collaboration in detail in "The Grand Jihad: How Islam and the Left Sabotage America." The damned Marxist liar currently disgracing the White House is the poster boy for these other anti-American specimens. Like them, at heart he resents most things American and wants to see this country brought low.
 
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