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Russia deplores US refusal to jointly fight Al Nusra in Syria

Thoreau72 said:
Yes, Ace, I do understand, I get it--you take any and all Pentagon/State pronouncements as gospel. :mrgreen:
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So when RT predicting for the start date of Barbarossa II: Estonia Bugaloo
 
DaveFagan said:
You're a regular record player of propaganda when you should actually learn history. For example, the Sandanistas were the cocaine dealers from Nicaragua that were trading cocaine for weapons and the cocaine was marketed by the CIA in Los Angeles. San Jose Mercury News, Webb. Admitted to, in Congress, by the CIA. The cocaine came from the CIA man Noriega in Panama. It was the Reagan/Bush scheme to bypass the US ban on weapon sales to the Sandanistas.
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I would like to see the day when monstrosity known collectively as 'the American news media' would stop referring to people in the east as sunnis, shia, hezbolla, kurds, gazans, palestinians, houthis, salfiists, syrians,or whatever. These labels seem to pre-ordain them to a life of war, strife, and misery, fostered on them by the NWO Globalist Elites like Kissinger and Clinton who want to kill them, and those CFR underlings who run the newspaper and TV media monopoly seem to label them so as to bane their existence. I would like to see the Arabs and Persians one day to be collectively referred to as ' the people' or 'citizens' again.
 
Tigerace117 said:
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Sorry if I don't take RT as gospel, Mr. "NATO is provoking Russia by having troops in a NATO member which has had a long history of being invaded by Russia at the drop of a hat".
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you know better than to post this disinfo dude -

operation 'eager lion' in Jordan thousands of u.s. troops in and around Syria - and on the aircraft carriers, special ops forces, tons of ammo

lets digress for a sec...

from the company who brought you THE WALKING DEAD hey but their Zombies so exploding guts every week on TV is OK its not dehumanization, desensitizing mind control, RIGHT?

Do they or do they not - broadcast blatantly obvious war propaganda movies for three days straight all weekend long, for 24 hours a day EVERY MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND AND FOURTH OF JULY ON TURNER CLASSIC MOVIES, AMC, AND A FEW OTHER CHANNNELS, year after year, when Americans are all off work and supposed to unwind from the rat race, and supposedly to just relax and enjoy themselves?

And these networks TCM, AMC, and TBS are all owned by the same company CNN/Time-Warner and CNN was the same company that lied us into not one, but two Iraq wars, then another in Syria!

Why do you suppose that is?

Aren't they in the business of selling us war, fear, and guns - the National Security State- which is bankrupting the country and causing untold millions of refugees, horrific disease, starvation and death?

Oh right - but people want to blame Saudis or Israel - their role as a u.s. base of foreign policy intentions is subservient at best. Whose sanctions? -America - gave the weapons, training, night vision goggles, manpads, cluster bombs, satellite tech imagery, smart phones, allied use of Turkey/Jordan bases was done by obama and u.s. negotiators, weapons deals and nato admission benefits to puppet erdogan was americas, how about pushing syria war at the UN was done by Susan Rice and Hillarys state dept, we were sold news lies by u.s. ngos and foundations!
 
BloodRedKane said:
you know better than to post this disinfo dude -

operation 'eager lion' in Jordan thousands of u.s. troops in and around Syria - and on the aircraft carriers, special ops forces, tons of ammo

lets digress for a sec...

from the company who brought you THE WALKING DEAD hey but their Zombies so exploding guts every week on TV is OK its not dehumanization, desensitizing mind control, RIGHT?

Do they or do they not - broadcast blatantly obvious war propaganda movies for three days straight all weekend long, for 24 hours a day EVERY MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND AND FOURTH OF JULY ON TURNER CLASSIC MOVIES, AMC, AND A FEW OTHER CHANNNELS, year after year, when Americans are all off work and supposed to unwind from the rat race, and supposedly to just relax and enjoy themselves?

And these networks TCM, AMC, and TBS are all owned by the same company CNN/Time-Warner and CNN was the same company that lied us into not one, but two Iraq wars, then another in Syria!

Why do you suppose that is?

Aren't they in the business of selling us war, fear, and guns - the National Security State- which is bankrupting the country and causing untold millions of refugees, horrific disease, starvation and death?

Oh right - but people want to blame Saudis or Israel - their role as a u.s. base of foreign policy intentions is subservient at best. Whose sanctions? -America - gave the weapons, training, night vision goggles, manpads, cluster bombs, satellite tech imagery, smart phones, allied use of Turkey/Jordan bases was done by obama and u.s. negotiators, weapons deals and nato admission benefits to puppet erdogan was americas, how about pushing syria war at the UN was done by Susan Rice and Hillarys state dept, we were sold news lies by u.s. ngos and foundations!
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The Walking Dead is entertainment. It's a show where people shoot zombies. It's not complex metaphor for racism; it doesn't have anything to do with the war on terror, or mind control--- it's entertainment.

The Fourth of July is a day for patriotism, to celebrate the birth of the greatest country on earth. Memorial Day is for remembering those who have fought and died to perverse our rights, where bet it's freedom of speech, freedom to bear arms or freedom of religion. There's no "propaganda" involved.

I don't know why you think we were "lied" into two Iraq Wars. The Gulf War was pretty clear cut--- Saddam wants to get rid of one of his debtors, invades Kuwait, US kicks him out again. Iraq II wasn't such a good idea but I'm not apologizing for overthrowing Saddam.

Jordan is a US ally. US troops have every right to be in the country.
 
Tigerace117 said:
The Walking Dead is entertainment. It's a show where people shoot zombies. It's not complex metaphor for racism; it doesn't have anything to do with the war on terror, or mind control--- it's entertainment.

The Fourth of July is a day for patriotism, to celebrate the birth of the greatest country on earth. Memorial Day is for remembering those who have fought and died to perverse our rights, where bet it's freedom of speech, freedom to bear arms or freedom of religion. There's no "propaganda" involved.

I don't know why you think we were "lied" into two Iraq Wars. The Gulf War was pretty clear cut--- Saddam wants to get rid of one of his debtors, invades Kuwait, US kicks him out again. Iraq II wasn't such a good idea but I'm not apologizing for overthrowing Saddam.

Jordan is a US ally. US troops have every right to be in the country.
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What I was referring to was that the U.S. military was training the Free Syrian Army to invade Syria, when America hasn't got control over Iraq yet, not enough to keep the water or electricity going steadily.

What I am saying is that the media is constantly marketing war, guns, and violence, as the answer to all the worlds ills. This violent mentality just breeds more violence, like school shootings, or mass shootings at college campuses.

Iraq isn't celebrating, and there were no havens for terrorists there until America destroyed it.

We've seen no evidence of the United States success in either Iraq or Syria.



Over 3,300 Killed in Iraq During November
December 2, 2015

Margaret Griffis reports for Antiwar.com

"During November, this column found 3,341 people were killed and 1,776 more were wounded in violent encounters across Iraq. That’s up from the 3,071 killed and 1,160 wounded in October. "

http://stopmakingsense.org/2015/12/02/over-3300-killed-in-iraq-during-november/
 
BloodRedKane said:
What I was referring to was that the U.S. military was training the Free Syrian Army to invade Syria, when America hasn't got control over Iraq yet, not enough to keep the water or electricity going steadily.

What I am saying is that the media is constantly marketing war, guns, and violence, as the answer to all the worlds ills. This violent mentality just breeds more violence, like school shootings, or mass shootings at college campuses.

Iraq isn't celebrating, and there were no havens for terrorists there until America destroyed it.

We've seen no evidence of the United States success in either Iraq or Syria.



Over 3,300 Killed in Iraq During November
December 2, 2015

Margaret Griffis reports for Antiwar.com

"During November, this column found 3,341 people were killed and 1,776 more were wounded in violent encounters across Iraq. That’s up from the 3,071 killed and 1,160 wounded in October. "

http://stopmakingsense.org/2015/12/02/over-3300-killed-in-iraq-during-november/
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Well no ****. Did you forget that the US pulled out of Iraq back in 2008 and only now are we starting to come back into the country en force?

The idea that "there were no havens for terrorists there until America destroyed it" is blantantly false". Saddam had been backing terrorist organizations as far back as the Iran-Iraq War.

The media doesn't not link war guns and violence as the solutions to all the world's problems; however, sometimes, war is a necessary evil.
 
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