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Vets blast ‘fraud’ Trump over claim he raised $6 million: ‘His mouth writes....[W:38]

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PeteEU said:
Forget it, you are totally blind or dont understand basic public relations at all.
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Was that a "punt out of frustration of knowing you're wrong" reply?

This is yet another lame attack on Trump that won't make a bit of difference.
 
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PeteEU said:
Excon said:
Wrong.
The question exposes the point as irrelevant.
The Host of a fund raising event is not responsible for unrealized pledges.
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Where the hell did I ever say he was?
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It seems you left out the part that applies to this specific (me saying that you "suggested"), but included it below in regards to something else.


PeteEU said:
Excon said:
Suggesting that Trump should make up for unrealized pledges is ridiculous to an extreme, and in reference to this specific, mired in your own bias.
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The only bias here is yours.. your blind devotion to Trump has made you absolutely miss what I wrote.
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No PeteEU, not only did you display your own bias, you now show you do not even know what you are talking about.

What you said was not missed. You "suggested" just as I said you did, which you admit to doing in the following quote, but only in regards to Trump's organization, which is either dishonesty or simply not knowing what you yourself said.


PeteEU said:
Excon said:
Suggesting that Trump should make up for unrealized pledges is ridiculous to an extreme, and in reference to this specific, mired in your own bias.
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I said that once the Trump organisation found out that the pledges did not match the already promoted 6 million amount, then they should have gone in and made up the difference.. not because they have too, but because it is the right thing to do.
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No PeteEU, you did not suggest the Trump organization do so, you suggested that Trump do it.

Your words in post #3.

"However Trump should have seized this opportunity and made up the difference no?"​
 
Re: Vets blast ‘fraud’ Trump over claim he raised $6 million: ‘His mouth writes.....

PeteEU said:
Does not mean he is not correct.
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Probably. Such is partisanship.
 
Re: Vets blast ‘fraud’ Trump over claim he raised $6 million: ‘His mouth writes.....

ludin said:
since no one lied there isn't an issue.
I would like you to show me where the actual lie is.

while you are at it please show me where anyone was insulting POW's as well.
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With Pleasure.

Trump claimed to have raised six million dollars for Veteran's Charities. His manager finally admitted that they only raised 4.5 million. That means Trump lied. And of that 4.5 million, only about 3.1 million has been delivered. That means Trump lied.

As for insulting POWs, here you go:

“He’s not a war hero,” Trump said. "He’s a war hero because he was captured.” Then, he added, “I like people that weren’t captured.”
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Excon said:
I see you have trouble understanding what you read.

An idiot crying in an effort to falsely cast Trump in a negative light is the non-issue that rational folks know it to be.

Did you really not understand that? My bad. Never mind, I forgot I was talking to you.
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Oh I am well aware of the point you believed that you made. The fact remains that the actual point you made is to argue that lying about donating to a veteran's charity is a non-issue.
 
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MrT said:
Oh I am well aware of the point you believed that you made. The fact remains that the actual point you made is to argue that lying about donating to a veteran's charity is a non-issue.
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Wrong.
That is you seeing what is not there. At no point did I say or even intimate what you suggest.

This is what I said.
"Which is really makes this report nothing more than some idiot crying all in an effort to cast Trump in a negative light, while rational folks know it is a non-issue."​

That, as pointed out to you previously, clearly refers to what I said it does.
An idiot crying in an effort to falsely cast Trump in a negative light is the non-issue that rational folks know it to be.​




So you are either being dishonest or simply cannot understand what you read even after it was pointed out to you. I am going with the former.
 
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imyoda said:
Vets blast ‘fraud’ Trump over claim he raised $6 million: ‘His mouth writes checks no one can cash’
Vets blast ‘fraud’ Trump over claim he raised $6 million: ‘His mouth writes checks no one can cash’

“…………“Donald Trump is a cheap fraud,” said Iraq veteran and VoteVets chairman Jon Soltz in a scathing press release. “In a classic fraud move, made himself look good to the public, by lying to the American people, and veterans, about how much he raised for veterans’ groups, when he hid behind them to get out of the GOP debate.”………

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...1127a8-1d1f-11e6-b6e0-c53b7ef63b45_story.html

Trump will ‘definitely not’ attend next GOP debate and hold ‘competing event’

VoteVets Responds to News That Donald Trump Falsely Claimed He Raised $6 Million for Veterans | VoteVets.org
Now we know what Trump meant when he said “We are going to take care of our vets.”

BTW
Have you noticed he does not say “We are going to take care of our vets”
anymore in his stump speech?
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I live in the largest navy town on the planet and haven't heard a word from any of my active duty friends about them being up in arms over this issue.

Nothing!

Crickets!

Just another BS article about some group making headlines out of political convenience.
 
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MrT said:
With Pleasure.

Trump claimed to have raised six million dollars for Veteran's Charities. His manager finally admitted that they only raised 4.5 million. That means Trump lied. And of that 4.5 million, only about 3.1 million has been delivered. That means Trump lied.
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Simply wrong.
There is no lie in that.

Unrealized pledges in no way makes him a liar.
 
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Excon said:
Simply wrong.
There is no lie in that.

Unrealized pledges in no way makes him a liar.
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And claiming to raise 6 million while only raising 4.5?
 
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Excon said:
Simply wrong.
There is no lie in that.

Unrealized pledges in no way makes him a liar.
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Lol this is what you do in every thread. xD
 
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MrT said:
And claiming to raise 6 million while only raising 4.5?
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Do you really not understand that the pledges is what was claimed to be raised?
Really?
You don't understand that?


Do you think the MDA and Jerry Lewis were lying when they would announce the end total that was "raised" during their telethons?
I hope not.
 
Re: Vets blast ‘fraud’ Trump over claim he raised $6 million: ‘His mouth writes.....

Abbazorkzog said:
Lol this is what you do in every thread. xD
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I see you again do not know what you are talking about.
 
Re: Vets blast ‘fraud’ Trump over claim he raised $6 million: ‘His mouth writes.....

Excon said:
I see you again do not know what you are talking about.
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Is there an ethically-competent sense of judgment anywhere in there...?

Excon said:
Properly sourcing includes a link to the actual article like the following.



Is there a reason you are not doing this?
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Excon said:
I see you have trouble understanding what you read.

An idiot crying in an effort to falsely cast Trump in a negative light is the non-issue that rational folks know it to be.

Did you really not understand that? My bad. Never mind, I forgot I was talking to you.







You again show you do not know what you are talking about.

Please provide the "proof" you say exists.
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Excon said:
The actual joke is the article and you buying into it.
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Excon said:
Really doesn't matter who said it as it still is a valid perspective.
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Excon said:
Wrong again.
You did not link to any proof.
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Excon said:
Ridiculous fear mongering coupled with opinionated bs that is wrong.
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Literally every single 'argument' you have is merely a carefully-veiled ad-hominem attack or opinion. That is literally the only consistency you have.

You literally have nothing to say other than childish mud-slinging insults.

Go ahead, reply and prove me correct...
 
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Abbazorkzog said:
Is there an ethically-competent sense of judgment anywhere in there...?

Literally every single 'argument' you have is merely a carefully-veiled ad-hominem attack or opinion. That is literally the only consistency you have.

You literally have nothing to say other than childish mud-slinging insults.

Go ahead, reply and prove me correct...
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And again you show you do not know what you are talking about.

If you do not understand what I said, let me help you out.
In other words, it means your assumptions are wrong.
 
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Re: Vets blast ‘fraud’ Trump over claim he raised $6 million: ‘His mouth writes.....

Excon said:
And again you show you do not know what you are talking about.
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You act like a broken record.
 
Re: Vets blast ‘fraud’ Trump over claim he raised $6 million: ‘His mouth writes.....

PeteEU said:
Does not mean he is not correct.

Trump said that he had raised 6 million dollars including 1 million donated by him. Now we are finding out, after the usual "Trump time", aka delays, that the actual donations/pledges did not get anywhere near 6 million. Fine, not all pledges come in, anyone can understand that. However Trump should have seized this opportunity and made up the difference no? He claims he is a very wealthy man.. a million or 2 extra would be him giving away one of his Rolex watches basically. Why did he not do that? Would be great positive PR.

No instead you have his people denying numbers, dodging questions and opening Trump up to new attacks and again these attacks are fully valid because of how he has handled the situation.
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Sounds to me like a liberal who is fine with demanding others give away their money.

How much did you contribute to make up the shortfall?
 
Re: Vets blast ‘fraud’ Trump over claim he raised $6 million: ‘His mouth writes.....

Excon said:
And again you show you do not know what you are talking about.

If you do not understand what I said, let me help you out.
In other words, it means your assumptions are wrong.
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Because 'you say so' I take it...
 
Re: Vets blast ‘fraud’ Trump over claim he raised $6 million: ‘His mouth writes.....

imyoda said:
Even if all you say is true.............

Can you disprove anything the news report states as wrong?

Trump is a serial liar.......and if you cannot see that...........what can I say?
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Says the person supporting Hillary.
 
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Abbazorkzog said:
You act like a broken record.
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You not knowing what you are talking about is the broken record here.
 
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no not all vets ,i am a vet and i do not thank he is a fraud,if there is any one that is a fraud it is the right of the republican party,,so i guess you will vote for hellary,just how conservative does one have to be ,RONALD REAGAN WOULD NOT BE CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH for you people. i see the extreme right the same as i see the extreme left,.NUTS.
yes i am a conservative i am not a republican nor a democrat i am however the vote that will decide this election .independents.
run don run

imyoda said:
Vets blast ‘fraud’ Trump over claim he raised $6 million: ‘His mouth writes checks no one can cash’
Vets blast ‘fraud’ Trump over claim he raised $6 million: ‘His mouth writes checks no one can cash’

“…………“Donald Trump is a cheap fraud,” said Iraq veteran and VoteVets chairman Jon Soltz in a scathing press release. “In a classic fraud move, made himself look good to the public, by lying to the American people, and veterans, about how much he raised for veterans’ groups, when he hid behind them to get out of the GOP debate.”………

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...1127a8-1d1f-11e6-b6e0-c53b7ef63b45_story.html

Trump will ‘definitely not’ attend next GOP debate and hold ‘competing event’

VoteVets Responds to News That Donald Trump Falsely Claimed He Raised $6 Million for Veterans | VoteVets.org
Now we know what Trump meant when he said “We are going to take care of our vets.”

BTW
Have you noticed he does not say “We are going to take care of our vets”
anymore in his stump speech?
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Excon said:
You not knowing what you are talking about is the broken record here.

Try actually addressing your absurd comments about Trump.
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My absurd comments about Trump?

:lamo :lamo :lamo

You're just angry because I exposed your entire agenda on this forum with ONE post...

:lamo :lamo

Oh, this is the best day. So hilarious.
 
Re: Vets blast ‘fraud’ Trump over claim he raised $6 million: ‘His mouth writes.....

Abbazorkzog said:
My absurd comments about Trump?

lamo lamo lamo

You're just angry because I exposed your entire agenda on this forum with ONE post...

lamo lamo

Oh, this is the best day. So hilarious.
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Hilarious.
You drug comments I made in other threads into this one and yet you now criticize me for bringing up your failure to address the absurd comment you made about Trump in another?

You clearly do not understand the depths of the delusional biased hypocrisy in which you are engaged.


Now how about you make an actual argument pertaining to this topic?

Do you, or do you not agree that blaming Trump or calling him a liar over this is absurd?
 
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Re: Vets blast ‘fraud’ Trump over claim he raised $6 million: ‘His mouth writes.....

Excon said:
You drug comments I made in other threads into this one and yet
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You've been part of this website for 3 more years than I, and you're acting like this is the first time it's happened to you.
I count at least 12 times this has happened to me at the mercy of the Clinton trolls, jee whiz grow some skin.
 
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Excon said:
Do you, or do you not agree that blaming Trump or calling him a liar over this is absurd?
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I'm going to be proudly biased towards the men that risked their lives in the middle of a ****ing war zone over the cowardly robber-baron that wipes his ass with 1,000$ bills...
 
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Abbazorkzog said:
You've been part of this website for 3 more years than I, and you're acting like this is the first time it's happened to you.
I count at least 12 times this has happened to me at the mercy of the Clinton trolls, jee whiz grow some skin.
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As it was hypocrisy, it was hilarious, especially with the smilies used.


Abbazorkzog said:
I'm going to be proudly biased towards the men that risked their lives in the middle of a ****ing war zone over the cowardly robber-baron that wipes his ass with 1,000$ bills...
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I see you again wish to engage in absurdities.
Figures.
So are you ever actually going to address the topic, or continue to deflect?

You also seem to forget that Trump donates to them.
 
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