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Here's a radical suggestion for the $20 bill!

Aunt Spiker said:
Why do we need a male?

People are flipping out as if females have never EVER been on our money before.
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Don't you know its some evil commie plot to pc our money? How dare we honor women and racial minorities on our money, don't they know that this is the white man's country(sarcascm)?
 
jamesrage said:
How will re engraving plates for a new 20 dollar andrew jackson bill cost any more than engraving printing plates for a Harriet Tubam bill? On the average it costs 10 cents per paper currency to print.The plates get 800,000 used out of it before it need to be replaced.

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what's wrong with the old bills?
 
TurtleDude said:
what's wrong with the old bills?
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What was wrong with the 20 dollar bill all the other times a different person was put on the 20 dollar bill?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_twenty-dollar_bill#Pre-Federal_Reserve_history

1861: A demand note with Lady Liberty holding a sword and shield on the front, and an abstract design on the back. The back is printed green.
1862: A note that is very similar, the first $20 United States note. The back is different, with several small variations extant.
1863: A gold certificate $20 note with an Eagle vignette on the face. The reverse has a $20 gold coin and various abstract elements. The back is orange.
1865: A national bank note with "The Battle of Lexington" and of "Pocahontas" in black, and a green border.
1869: A new United States note design with Alexander Hamilton on the left side of the front and Victory holding a shield and sword. The back design is green.
1875: As above, except with a different reverse.
1878: A silver certificate $20 note with a portrait of Stephen Decatur on the right side of the face. The back design is black.
1882: A new gold certificate with a portrait of James Garfield on the right of the face. The back is orange and features an eagle.
1882: A new national bank note. The front is similar, but the back is different and printed in brown.
1886: A new silver certificate $20 note with Daniel Manning on the center of the face.
1890: A treasury (coin) note with John Marshall on the left of the face. Two different backs exist: both with abstract designs.
1902: A new national bank note. The front design features Hugh McCulloch, and the back has a vignette of an allegorical America.
1905: A new gold certificate $20 note with George Washington on the center of the face. The back design is orange.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_twenty-dollar_bill#Federal_Reserve_history
1914: Began as a large-sized note with a portrait of Grover Cleveland on the face, and, on the back, a steam locomotive and an automobile approaching from the left, and a steamship approaching from the right.
1918: A federal reserve bank note with Grover Cleveland on the front, and a back design similar to the 1914 Federal Reserve Note.
1928: Switched to a small-sized note with a portrait of Andrew Jackson on the face and the south view of the White House on the reverse. The banknote is redeemable in gold or silver (at the bearer's discretion) at any Federal Reserve Bank.
 
jamesrage said:
Don't you know its some evil commie plot to pc our money? How dare we honor women and racial minorities on our money, don't they know that this is the white man's country(sarcascm)?
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They know it is the white man's country. White men made it great. Blacks set it on fire when they are pissed off. Like in Baltimore. And 125 cities after MLK was shot. Number of white riots after JFK was assassinated = zero. Number of white riots after 9/11 = zero.

The American blacks in their totality are a liability, just as are the Latinos. Yes, there are exceptions.
 
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TurtleDude said:
when I was younger, I asked my late father if we should have a federal holiday for MLK. and he said-sure why not-he was a great man but if we have a holiday for every man or woman who did as much for America as MLK did, we'd never get any work done
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You father was a smart man and I will not argue with what he said. The fact remains that King was a communist-sympathizing womanizer and plagiarist, who beat up a white hooker in his motel room on the day he got shot. One speech does not make a man great. Today, if you quote MLK, you are a disgusting bigot and racist.
 
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legalimmigrant said:
You father was a smart man and I will not want to argue with what he said. The fact remains that King was a communist-sympathizing womanizer and plagiarist, who beat up a white hooker in his motel room on the day he got shot.
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puts him in far better standing than lots of our politicians

I thought he was a Republican myself

Oh well
 
TurtleDude said:
that's not the issue

we already have a 20 dollar bill. Why spend even a dime changing it?
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Oh... now it's a matter of saving a few bucks?

lol

Let's just keep the same money for 100 more years, then, yeah? Lest we spend money on something. God forbid!

Our country produces new coin concepts all the time - I don't see what's wrong with redesigning paper money every now and then. No one flipped out over the state quarters (or did they?) . . . Heaven's knows people actually collect those ****ers.
 
legalimmigrant said:
You father was a smart man and I will not argue with what he said. The fact remains that King was a communist-sympathizing womanizer and plagiarist, who beat up a white hooker in his motel room on the day he got shot. One speech does not make a man great. Today, if you quote MLK, you are a disgusting bigot and racist.
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TurtleDude said:
puts him in far better standing than lots of our politicians

I thought he was a Republican myself

Oh well
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There are generally two groups of people who claim MLK jr. was a socialist/commie and a philanderer. Racist trying to discredit the civil rights movement by trying to attach MLK Jr. to a failed idiotic political/economic theory and alleged infidelity. The other group are Commies/socialist trying to give credence to their failed idiotic political/economic theory buy trying to attach a huge civil rights icon to their movement. So people should take the claims that he is a socialist and a womanizer with a grain of salt.
 
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legalimmigrant said:
They know it is the white man's country. White men made it great. Blacks set it on fire when they are pissed off. Like in Baltimore. And 125 cities after MLK was shot. Number of white riots after JFK was assassinated = zero. Number of white riots after 9/11 = zero.

The American blacks in their totality are a liability, just as are the Latinos. Yes, there are exceptions.
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If you really want to help the conservative cause then you should start espousing liberal beliefs like socialism/communism, gun control,pro-abortion, and other liberal beliefs. Because people like you is what enable the left to fraudulently paint all conservatives as racist.
 
Once again, I barely care what or who they put on bills.

As long as they don't put convicted murderers/rapists/etc. on them...why should I give a ****?

And the answer is...I should not.

Anyone whose life is noticeably improved because of what is or is not on their country's currency needs to have their heads examined, IMO.
 
i'm good with Harriet Tubman on the 20. it will piss some people off, but largely, these are the same people who are pissed off by everything government except decades long hopeless unfunded wars in the Middle East. i'm sure that they'll live if the $20 looks a little different.
 
jamesrage said:
If you really want to help the conservative cause then you should start espousing liberal beliefs like socialism/communism, gun control,pro-abortion, and other liberal beliefs. Because people like you is what enable the left to fraudulently paint all conservatives as racist.
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I have already been painted as a "racist" by your mulatto in the White House and every race baiting sob around him, so I have nothing to lose by telling the truth. On top of that, Mexicans can be racists and have La Raza, blacks can be racists and have Black Caucus, Black Miss America, Black History Month, Black pride, scholarships for blacks only, so I don't see a problem being a "racist" and in a good company of the racists I just mentioned.

The definition of "racist: a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another.

So, what exactly is wrong with being a racist? Some guys believe they are women. I believe that white race is superior - and can prove it.
 
matchlight said:
I didn't know Heston had played Jackson in two movies. The one I saw was "The President's Lady," from 1953, with Susan Hayward. I also didn't know the Battle of New Orleans had been celebrated that way, or that he'd challenged the Supreme Court about the Cherokees. He also challenged it over the issue of a national bank, justifying his position in what's usually called the Veto Speech of 1836. It's no slight to Harriet Tubman to note she was a second-rank figure in our history, compared to a president--let alone one as important as Jackson.
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I guess he did such a good job they asked him back to do it again.

Jan 8th was a great celebration because we needed SOMETHING to celebtate after the War of 1812. The Brits pretty much handed us our asses in most of the battles but a few.

The Battle of New Orleans was such a overwhelming victory for our side that it stood out. Jackson also had backs and whites digging the rifle pits side by side and fighting side by side.

PS...he also gave us Cajuns a derogatory name that stuck with us and now we call each other that with pride.

We were all FRENCH citizens only a few years earlier, and refused to fight the British. We had no beef with them. He said and one that refuses to fight is "lower than a COON's ASS". Since then we call each other COONASSES, as a kind of a joke.
 
RetiredNSmilin said:
I guess he did such a good job they asked him back to do it again.

Jan 8th was a great celebration because we needed SOMETHING to celebtate after the War of 1812. The Brits pretty much handed us our asses in most of the battles but a few.

The Battle of New Orleans was such a overwhelming victory for our side that it stood out. Jackson also had backs and whites digging the rifle pits side by side and fighting side by side.

PS...he also gave us Cajuns a derogatory name that stuck with us and now we call each other that with pride.

We were all FRENCH citizens only a few years earlier, and refused to fight the British. We had no beef with them. He said and one that refuses to fight is "lower than a COON's ASS". Since then we call each other COONASSES, as a kind of a joke.
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Interesting history about the Cajuns. I've never been sure just what the point of the War of 1812 was. Why would the British call a halt to an effort they'd thought was worth making, especially when they were doing pretty well? Too worried about Napoleon, maybe? I have a book by George Daughan entitled "1812: The Navy's War." There were quite a few naval engagements, most of them pretty fierce, and it goes into them in a lot of detail. Overall, the crews of American warships got good results. They didn't hesitate to take on the strongest navy in the world, and they fought with a lot of daring, courage, and skill. Some of the American captains seemed not to be afraid of the devil himself.
 
TurtleDude said:
why exactly do we "need" a female on the 20 dollar bill?
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Because we "need" to show everybody how trendy and progressive we are.

That being said, I favor replacing Jackson simply because he was a complete asshole. *Who* he is replaced with is of lesser concern to me, though I do think replacing him with a native American Indian would be a special kind of poetic justice.
 
Yeah.

Conservatives are really upset about the founder of the modern Democrat Party being stripped off and replaced with a deeply religious, gun-toting Republican.

:roll:
 
legalimmigrant said:
I have already been painted as a "racist" by your mulatto in the White House and every race baiting sob around him, so I have nothing to lose by telling the truth. On top of that, Mexicans can be racists and have La Raza, blacks can be racists and have Black Caucus, Black Miss America, Black History Month, Black pride, scholarships for blacks only, so I don't see a problem being a "racist" and in a good company of the racists I just mentioned.

The definition of "racist: a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another.

So, what exactly is wrong with being a racist? Some guys believe they are women. I believe that white race is superior - and can prove it.
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Now that's the ticket. Announcing you're an out and proud White Supremacist.

No mealy mouthing for you.

Better the bigots say it straight up. Saves us a lot of time.
 
chromium said:
everything you credit her for will just make the right more furious that she's being honored

consider that andrew jackson is a hero to them *because* he had slaves and slaughtered natives
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...and there it is again - that same tired liberal bigotry that I've come to expect.

NO ONE calls Andrew Jackson a hero because of the fact that he held slaves and carried out the legal (at the time) orders of his superiors, they call him a hero because he defeated a much superior British force, was a pretty good President and reflected much of the attitude of the "man on the street" of the time.
 
chromium said:
why do we need a male on it

really do you have to look for some nefarious motive for everything? That is so incredibly petty from someone who can still use 4-5 other bills with old crusty white men
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Why should gender matter at all?? How about every 40-50 years we put together an ordered list of the historically most important people who are now dead and haven't been on any of our currency and work our way through that list. Maybe every 5 years each bill gets a new face, with the "originals" going back into circulation every 20 years. Take gender out of the picture altogether. Isn't that the goal - to be a society which doesn't take into account the gender of a person when determining their "worth"???
 
legalimmigrant said:
I have already been painted as a "racist" by your mulatto in the White House and every race baiting sob around him, so I have nothing to lose by telling the truth. On top of that, Mexicans can be racists and have La Raza, blacks can be racists and have Black Caucus, Black Miss America, Black History Month, Black pride, scholarships for blacks only, so I don't see a problem being a "racist" and in a good company of the racists I just mentioned.
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Yes there are other racists.But it doesn't change the fact that racists who call themselves conservative paint all other conservatives as racists and therefore harm the movement. And bitching about the fact a gun toting black republican is being put on our money only makes it look like the opposition to her being put on our money look like its rooted in racism instead of something legitimate.

The definition of "racist: a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another.

So, what exactly is wrong with being a racist? Some guys believe they are women. I believe that white race is superior - and can prove it.
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How can you complain about being painted a racist when you admit to being a racist?

Racist beliefs are just as wrong as the nutjobs who believe they are born the wrong gender. No race is superior to another.
 
RetiredNSmilin said:
Even after the Cherokee Nation won their court case, he blatantly forcibly moved them along the Trail of Tears anyway.
He told the chief justice,... OK, you have your ruling, no enforce it.
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This just shows how much of an scoundrel Jackson was, he shouldn't be on any currency. He is truly a POS!
 
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