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Trump soars in new polls: +26 pa...+34 ct...+38 ri...

reinoe said:
Sanders has been playing nice with HIllary. And his "hard hitting" is just pointing out her self-inflicted wounds. Trump would destroy her. She will cower and hide behind Obama when it's convenient.
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I see no evidence of that. She's been hit hard by everyone for years, including Trump for this past year. It's why her favorables are so low. I really don't think there's much more that can be done.
 
Anagram said:
How can you be so sure? She's being hit pretty hard now by Sanders and the GOP. She's been in the spotlight for decades. What more is going to come out that will make her less liked? Unless she's indicted, or there's some gigantic scandal that hasn't broken yet, I don't see it.
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Look, Sanders has more skill than I thought he had but he is still a lifelong failed politician, and he has failed here again.

You aint seen nothing yet.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
Y'know, I've got a few very, very conservative friends - they're retired Navy like myself, and go to the same Church I do (and we hold good-natured and friendly - if somewhat heated - debates) and to a man, they will not vote for Trump. They might vote for a third party to avoid voting for Clinton, or they might not vote at all...but they'll never vote for Trump.

Why? Because most (though certainly not all) retired military have spent a career seeing through (and standing up against) people just like Trump. To us, he's no different from the all-talk blowhards who simply don't grasp the fact that we can see right though them. I know you probably don't believe that, but since you're not retired military (or at least I really don't think you are), what I've described above is not much different from describing color to a blind man.
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I have a very good and long time friend in Az., who is a retired Navy Seal with a 30 year career.........and he is all in for Trump. He might be a bit older than some of your friends...and maybe a bit wiser too.
 
Anagram said:
I see no evidence of that. She's been hit hard by everyone for years, including Trump for this past year. It's why her favorables are so low. I really don't think there's much more that can be done.
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Go back to her self destruction of 08, her getting beat by a nobody who talks good, and understanding that she learned nothing tell me how she beats Trump.

She just had trouble with Sanders for God's Sake....SANDERS!
 
TheDemSocialist said:
And he still looses the general
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I wouldn't be too sure of that.....

OrphanSlug said:
Yet in the general election polling against Clinton, she holds somewhere in the +8 range over Trump. Granted it is down from Clinton holding something closer to the +12 range but Trump still has much to do to catch her.

This is all assuming of course that Trump gains enough delegates to prevent GOP shenanigans at the convention. Personally, I think it would be foolish to rule out backroom deals regardless of the delegate count.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton
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A poll this morning had them at a Dead Heat!
 
MrT said:
And he will lose in an even more dramatic fashion when compared to Romney, huzzah!
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MrT said:
One aspect that the analysis does not discuss is the timing and competitiveness of the respective primaries. According to the 2012 Republican Primary Wikipedia Page, Romney had effectively locked up the nominee status completely by April 10th when Santorum suspended his campaign (Gingrich was still in the race at that point, but faced some very significant problems) and this was shortly after Romney had earned endorsements from several prominent Republican figures who actively campaigned and fund raised on his behalf.

Votes in the primary are much more indicative of the competitiveness of that primary than they are indicative of the potential performance during the general election.
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Compared to 2012 at this point in time, Trump has approx. two million more votes than Romney.
 
jamesrage said:
I wonder how many of those votes are democrats trying rat **** the republican primary by helping a lousy candidate win the primary so he can get curb stomped in the general election by Clinton?
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Ikari said:
What a great way to ensure Hillary gets to be President.

Uggg....this country just keeps ratcheting down each Presidential election cycle. I hate to see what's worse that Clinton v. Trump.
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We will find out come Nov.
 
MickeyW said:
Compared to 2012 at this point in time, Trump has approx. two million more votes than Romney.
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What's your point though? Romney was the clear nominee for almost all of 2012. People had less reason to take time out of their day to vote in a non-competitive primary. I don't really think it means anything that Trump has more votes than he did.
 
reinoe said:
That doesn't mean anything when Romney was essentially running unopposed.
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Exactly.

Anagram said:
Very true. The OP seemed to be implying that Trump is somehow in a stronger position than Romney was. I'm just pointing out that isn't true.
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I think you are very wrong about that...

reinoe said:
Kanye West vs Kim Kardashian?
Sarah Palin vs Debbie Wasserman-Shultz?


These would all be hilariously awful.
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:lamo

Hawkeye10 said:
We have been hearing that song and dance since Aug, when the know it alls were not laughing too hard to speak they have been saying " of course Trump cant win".

And yet he does. And he is going against Hillary, who is easy to beat.

We need to wait for the fat lady to sing, but it is time to get used to saying "President Trump".
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Boy, I hope that happens, that would sure mummify a lot of folks!

reinoe said:
Trump is going to be more vetted than Romney. Romney was handed the election on a silver platter by the GOP establishment.
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Yep...

Bet then look at the lack of vetting of obama....
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
Trump polling at about 65% of voters who say they will never vote for him, under any circumstance.

As I pointed out many times, after the 2012 election every expert, even the ones the GOP hired said for the GOP to win in 2016 they need to make nice with women and Latinos. Trump has done neither, actually he's made it worse.

Lots of women and Latinos in the big electoral states.

Trump scares the Moderate and Indy voters. He has no chance.
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You Naysayers have been discounting Trump since last summer....and have lots of egg on your faces.
I've talked to many women and Hispanics who are for Trump.....and the Silent Majority is also.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
We have been hearing that song and dance since Aug, when the know it alls were not laughing too hard to speak they have been saying " of course Trump cant win".

And yet he does. And he is going against Hillary, who is easy to beat.

We need to wait for the fat lady to sing, but it is time to get used to saying "President Trump".
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MickeyW said:
Trump just might pull it off.
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What's that have to do with the vote totals then. Like I said before Romney had a higher percentage of the Republican vote. More people are voting this time because it's a contested primary. Trump has more overall votes, but a lower percentage. I don't see how the higher vote totals relate to him having a better chance of pulling it off.
 
MickeyW said:
Compared to 2012 at this point in time, Trump has approx. two million more votes than Romney.
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Yes, that's what your OP said. I already read that fact.

I am disputing whether the situations are similar enough to draw any substantive conclusions beyond that mere fact.
 
MickeyW said:
I have a very good and long time friend in Az., who is a retired Navy Seal with a 30 year career.........and he is all in for Trump. He might be a bit older than some of your friends...and maybe a bit wiser too.
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The fact that he's a SEAL (note the caps - that's not shouting) tells me much. He's very, very good at what he was trained to do...but sees things through a wholly-different lens. SEALs spend their time mostly within the small-unit SEAL community, and as broad and diverse as Navy culture certainly is, the SEAL community is - culturally speaking - about the tightest echo chamber there is. If a SEAL told me about what he saw here or there, or about our or others' military capabilities, I'd happily sit up and listen to him. But when it comes to knowledge about and understanding of what it takes to lead this Heinz-57 nation...not so much. If anything, he'd more likely be at a bit of a disadvantage. He'd never agree with that, of course...but that's what I say.

Why? Because at 30 years, he will probably have spent at least 25 of that as a SEAL...which means that everyone he works with side-by-side is either a SEAL or someone used to dealing with SEALS. They have their own attitude, their own expectations of themselves and others...and those who don't fit the mold simply aren't going to be a part of that community. It's not a matter of arrogance, but of safety - they have to know the quality of those they must trust.

On the other hand, the rest of us in the 'normal' Navy had to learn how to best utilize the useless, how to best trust the untrustworthy, because we simply can't just get rid of them...and sometimes those same useless, untrustworthy pieces of human waste turn out to be stellar sailors. You never know...but since you can't just get rid of them, you have to find ways to mold them, help them improve, and help them grow.

Maybe your friend sees something familiar in Trump - maybe he thinks that Trump can back up what he claims, or maybe he thinks that Trump's just ballsy enough to be able to "get things done". For someone from a community that is taught that having Big Brass Ones is crucial to success (and it certainly is for the SEALS), I can see how they might empathize with Trump. But for the rest of us who've had to deal with and live with a much wider spectrum of humanity...not so much.
 
jamesrage said:
I wonder how many of those votes are democrats trying rat **** the republican primary by helping a lousy candidate win the primary so he can get curb stomped in the general election by Clinton?
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Wait, Trump was heralding the cross over of 'millions of democrats' to his banner as a good thang... :confused:

But it isn't the deciding voice in the crap fest that is the PUB nomination race this go-round. The PUBs have no one else but themselves to blame for this rat orgy. Long gone are the heady days when Pubs and Conservatives cackled about how diverse their candidates were- now it is down to Dumb and Dumber and attempts to blame everyone else for this sorry state of affairs for the Party of Lincoln... :peace
 
MickeyW said:
I have a very good and long time friend in Az., who is a retired Navy Seal with a 30 year career.........and he is all in for Trump. He might be a bit older than some of your friends...and maybe a bit wiser too.
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Being a Seal makes him a patriot, but not sage. I recall an old adage- there is no fool like an old fool... perhaps we should remember that when giving unsubstaniated opinion as a guide for us all... ;)
 
Ikari said:
What a great way to ensure Hillary gets to be President.

Uggg....this country just keeps ratcheting down each Presidential election cycle. I hate to see what's worse that Clinton v. Trump.
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yeah, that one is pretty depressing. the two candidates with the highest negatives are almost certain to be the nominees.
 
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