Don't make the Anti-Gay Folks Angry

Glen Contrarian said:

Yeah, it's not like Trump's ever advocated for everyone of a certain religion to register with the government. Oh, wait....

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When even the Koch Bros say you remind them of Hitler, you know you are acting a just a wee bit more like Adolf than you should.

X Factor said:

Well,'don't do me any favors. The bummer is that I actually would have agreed with your point if you could have resisted the inevitable "but look how much more Christians suck" deflection.

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this would be like me calling you homophobic because of the relentless 'gotcha' attempts in the other thread. Maybe you should just let it go and cut me some slack, or prove you agree and be as critical of Vance's nonsense as you are of me

chromium said:

well, the same poll shows catholics at 60% support, with muslims at 42%, so i no more meant to imply all christians are homophobic than all muslims. It's just i don't like that poster singling muslims out. I would and have said the same thing if anyone defined all christians by the atrocities in uganda

but i should've framed it as muslims in bangladesh are far more extremist than muslims in the west and left it at that

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It happens here in the good ole USA

I went to college in GA for 2 years, 2011-2014. Never in my life have I witnessed so much homophobia as I did in those two years. I am talking about nasty, mean, and downright degrading. And this was in a private college, a place of enlightenment, ya right!! I have lived in all types of places, all over the world, never seen so much open anti gay rhetoric as I did in Columbus GA. This gay boy was happy to return to San Antonio!! I ran, didn't walk, got me a school transfer ASAP.

Glen Contrarian said:

Yeah, it's not like Trump's ever advocated for everyone of a certain religion to register with the government. Oh, wait....

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Cool. Tell me again how many comparisons you're willing to make between FDR and Hitler, you know, someone who actually had concentration camps for Japanese.

Lets see: Bangladesh is anti gay for their god, yet the country is constantly hit by huge typhoons and resulting cholera and dysentary. Maybe they are being punished by an angry god (to use the talibornagain logic)

Fishking said:

Cool. Tell me again how many comparisons you're willing to make between FDR and Hitler, you know, someone who actually had concentration camps for Japanese.

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And how many modern-day Democrats have you heard support that particular measure by FDR? Here's a clue: zero. Your question is like implying that since Reagan supported amnesty for illegal aliens, then that must be a Republican thing...especially since Reagan is a LOT more recent than FDR.

There is NO Democrat or liberal who would support internment camps today, just as there is NO Republican in Congress who would support amnesty for illegal aliens today...but you DO have a front-runner in the GOP race who supports requiring everyone of a certain religion to register with the government.

X Factor said:

I've often seen it said we need to understand terrorism and do our best to not provoke it. Did the victims provoke this?

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If you're living in ISIS-controlled territory, I'm fairly certain it's a good idea not to provoke them regardless of understanding or lack thereof...


...and Bangladesh isn't all that much better in many respects.

calamity said:

...especially in Bangladesh.

Leading gay rights activist hacked to death in Bangladesh*

I can't say I am surprised.

So, who was it that said he wanted a war with the gay haters?

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Did you actually believe that Bangladesh is a modern thinking country, it is 90% Muslim.

RetiredUSN said:

Did you actually believe that Bangladesh is a modern thinking country, it is 90% Muslim.

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I didn't think they were crazy like Pakistan though. I thought they were more like Indonesia.

Glen Contrarian said:

And how many modern-day Democrats have you heard support that particular measure by FDR? Here's a clue: zero. Your question is like implying that since Reagan supported amnesty for illegal aliens, then that must be a Republican thing...especially since Reagan is a LOT more recent than FDR.

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I didn't say you had to like what FDR did. What I said was I haven't seen any FDR/Hitler comparisons. Furthermore, almost everyone that is doing the Trump/Hitler comparisons adore FDR and believe he was one of the best Presidents. In other words, it's stupid.

Fishking said:

I didn't say you had to like what FDR did. What I said was I haven't seen any FDR/Hitler comparisons. Furthermore, almost everyone that is doing the Trump/Hitler comparisons adore FDR and believe he was one of the best Presidents. In other words, it's stupid.

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The problem is when we focus on one act, rather than seeing the overall picture. In the year before FDR took office, something like 5000 banks went bankrupt...and in his first few days in office, he stopped the slide in its tracks. By 1936, we were almost out of the Depression, until the Dixiecrats forced FDR to adopt austerity measures, and down we went back into the Depression. But FDR did what was necessary to lead not just America, but the free world as a whole through WWII to a victory. Not only that, but under FDR we transitioned from being a still-second-rate power to the greatest industrial engine the world had ever seen.

And here's a key fact to bear in mind - we had an enormous military build-up starting in 1939 while we were still just beginning our recovery from the Depression...and ALL - repeat, ALL - of that military build-up was government-funded...meaning, taxpayer-funded. In other words, this was an industrial-size government-funded stimulus. According to conservative economic dogma, this SHOULD have driven us back down into the Depression...but it did just the opposite - our economy came roaring out of the Depression...just as Keynesian economic theory says that it should in such situations.

That's why, when I was a young man during the late Carter and early Reagan years with the recession going on, all the old-timers would say, "we just need a good war in order to fix the economy". Keynesian economics works...and FDR proved it in spades.

Glen Contrarian said:

The problem is when we focus on one act, rather than seeing the overall picture. In the year before FDR took office, something like 5000 banks went bankrupt...and in his first few days in office, he stopped the slide in its tracks. By 1936, we were almost out of the Depression, until the Dixiecrats forced FDR to adopt austerity measures, and down we went back into the Depression. But FDR did what was necessary to lead not just America, but the free world as a whole through WWII to a victory. Not only that, but under FDR we transitioned from being a still-second-rate power to the greatest industrial engine the world had ever seen.

And here's a key fact to bear in mind - we had an enormous military build-up starting in 1939 while we were still just beginning our recovery from the Depression...and ALL - repeat, ALL - of that military build-up was government-funded...meaning, taxpayer-funded. In other words, this was an industrial-size government-funded stimulus. According to conservative economic dogma, this SHOULD have driven us back down into the Depression...but it did just the opposite - our economy came roaring out of the Depression...just as Keynesian economic theory says that it should in such situations.

That's why, when I was a young man during the late Carter and early Reagan years with the recession going on, all the old-timers would say, "we just need a good war in order to fix the economy". Keynesian economics works...and FDR proved it in spades.

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No, Keynesian economics doesn't work. I also won't let you try and gloss over FDR running concentration camps or trying to completely compromise one of the branches of government with his Supreme Court packing scheme.

FDR is more of a Hitler than Trump is, that's just a fact.