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Uber and Lyft just not safe

HenryChinaski said:
That's like saying "I don't see what difference it makes, whether the person is a "professional trained and skilled barber or someone who just decides to cut hair on the weekend" Guess where I'm going to get my hair cut? Or hell even the difference between a skilled and seasoned bartender and someone who's merely opening beer bottles behind a bar" Big difference.
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Ability to drive a car is a pretty widely held skill (as is licensure for it).

Are you arguing that cab drivers are simply better drivers than "amateur" drivers? (My own anecdotal experience as both a passenger and a pedestrian would not suggest that at all about cab drivers.)
 
Greenbeard said:
Ability to drive a car is a pretty widely held skill (as is licensure for it).

Are you arguing that cab drivers are simply better drivers than "amateur" drivers? (My own anecdotal experience as both a passenger and a pedestrian would not suggest that at all about cab drivers.)
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No, But I can say take me to "Ashland and Irving Park" and they automatically know where to go. They aren't relying on an App. They test to drive a cab as well they should. Just as barbers test to cut hair and shave. I get in a cab and don't have to think about it. I have confidence that a cab driver has proven that he can do his job over some guy driving his mini-van part time.
 
HenryChinaski said:
No, But I can say take me to "Ashland and Irving Park" and they automatically know where to go. They aren't relying on an App.
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I've had plenty of cab drivers who used GPS. That never seemed significant to me either way.

Given that apps loop in real-time traffic information, if I'm in a hurry I'd actually prefer that one use an app so we don't end up surprised by gridlock behind a major accident.
 
Greenbeard said:
I've had plenty of cab drivers who used GPS. That never seemed significant to me either way.

Given that apps loop in real-time traffic information, if I'm in a hurry I'd actually prefer that one use an app so we don't end up surprised by gridlock behind a major accident.
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Chicago Cab drivers must pass a taxi cab exam. I'm more comfortable utilizing the services of someone who has proven that they are qualified for the job. And I refuse to get in the personal automobile of a stranger.
 
HenryChinaski said:
And I refuse to get in the personal automobile of a stranger.
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Fair, but in some ways this characterization is a little underdeveloped. You're not hitch hiking on a desert road. When you hail an Uber the driver, car, license plate, pickup point, and time are all logged. Every foot of your trip is being mapped in real time via two different devices. You're not vanishing into thin air, you're as on the grid as it gets.

None of that is true if I hail a random cab on the street. No one knows I got into that cab or where or when. You could just as easily make that situation sound sinister and frightening.
 
HenryChinaski said:
Cab drivers are over-regulated. It's extremely tough for them to get those coveted medallions. I'd rather put money in their pockets and try to help them rather than a guy like my best friend driving for Uber on the weekends for booze money.
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In NYC the vast majority of medallions aren't owned by the drivers but by cab companies and they want to keep the number of medallions artificially low to keep up the resale price of the medallions - up to a million dollars per as I understand it. Most of the regulations around taxis in NYC exist solely to protect existing medallion holders.
 
Greenbeard said:
Fair, but in some ways this characterization is a little underdeveloped. You're not hitch hiking on a desert road. When you hail an Uber the driver, car, license plate, pickup point, and time are all logged. Every foot of your trip is being mapped in real time via two different devices. You're not vanishing into thin air, you're as on the grid as it gets.

None of that is true if I hail a random cab on the street. No one knows I got into that cab or where or when. You could just as easily make that situation sound sinister and frightening.
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When I use yellow cab or Checker. I do it through their app, they my have info already dialed included pick-up and drop off locations based on where they've picked me up and dropped me off before. There's more accountability plus the cab's are being video recorded. I will not get in someones personal ride, that is creepy.
 
HenryChinaski said:
No, But I can say take me to "Ashland and Irving Park" and they automatically know where to go. They aren't relying on an App. They test to drive a cab as well they should. Just as barbers test to cut hair and shave. I get in a cab and don't have to think about it. I have confidence that a cab driver has proven that he can do his job over some guy driving his mini-van part time.
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are you telling us that in your state one does not have to pass a written and road test to receive a drivers license

but your choice to pay the higher fare. to you, being able to reach your destination in such a unique manner must merit that premium
 
justabubba said:
are you telling us that in your state one does not have to pass a written and road test to receive a drivers license

but your choice to pay the higher fare. to you, being able to reach your destination in such a unique manner must merit that premium
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The Cab drivers exam covers more than just insuring that one can drive a car and I don't mind paying a bit more for that. I also tip which is something the yuppies that use Uber rarely do.
 
Luftwaffe said:
What is it with you and pro gun people and uber?
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Do you not agree that someone who carries should not have that much concern about the alleged safety (or unsafety) of Uber drivers? I did not think it was an objectionable point...
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Would you advocate denying the (linked) individual a job driving a cab?
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Like I already said, I wouldn't deny employment. Would I advocate full disclosure for cab drivers also? Yes.
 
Mr Person said:
Do you not agree that someone who carries should not have that much concern about the alleged safety (or unsafety) of Uber drivers? I did not think it was an objectionable point...
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I'll stop you right there. Just because one carries a gun, that doesn't suddenly mean that you should go seek trouble or be reckless about potentially troubling situations...

If Uber drivers were notorious for being bad or shady (which I take no side of, just if), then having a gun doesn't mean you should take your chances. At the end of the day, it's always best to avoid trouble. Carrying is for self defense and the defense of others if need be, but not to go out and play police vigilante.

If there were two paths for me to go through, and one was a dark alleyway while the other was a lit area with people, then of course I would choose the lit area. Having a gun doesn't mean **** when it comes to having some sense and situation awareness.
 
ludin said:
Airport aims to use Uber drivers' fingerprints to check past | Fox News

people might rag that it is cheaper to use lyft or uber and well maybe it is unless you are at a huge event or something.
sorry people at the new years eve party.

there are other issues with lyft and uber. their so called background checks are worthless.

Since Houston's ordinance went into effect, the city's fingerprint-based FBI background checks have found driver applicants who have been charged with murder, sexual assault, robbery and indecent exposure, among other crimes. Those drivers had already cleared the commercial background checks used by ride-for-hire companies, according to a city report released this month.
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Taxi company scare mongering notwithstanding, I don't think that there is any actual, real evidence that people are at a greater risk riding with Uber. Uber drivers do occasionally get assaulted by passengers, though.
 
HenryChinaski said:
The Cab drivers exam covers more than just insuring that one can drive a car and I don't mind paying a bit more for that. I also tip which is something the yuppies that use Uber rarely do.
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Bah. Unions and cartels always claim to provide superior service and quality. It is always a lie. They want to keep their monopoly. That's all their is to it.
 
LowDown said:
Taxi company scare mongering notwithstanding, I don't think that there is any actual, real evidence that people are at a greater risk riding with Uber. Uber drivers do occasionally get assaulted by passengers, though.
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this isn't the taxi company these are airports demanding that any driver picking up passengers submit to finger print backgrounds checks.
 
LowDown said:
Bah. Unions and cartels always claim to provide superior service and quality. It is always a lie. They want to keep their monopoly. That's all their is to it.
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in general most cab drivers lease their own cabs or own them outright.
their pay is based on what they make in a day just like anyone else.
 
I just signed up for uber today because I will probably have to use them to get home from work today. Way cheaper than a cab home, by more than half (a cab home would cost me $60+, which would be my pay almost for the day, uber will cost me about $20, and my husband said I should get a discount for first time use).
 
ludin said:
in general most cab drivers lease their own cabs or own them outright.
their pay is based on what they make in a day just like anyone else.
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This depends on location. Some cities have restrictions that basically would require or almost require companies to own the car while others have mainly personally owned or leased cars and the driver pays a certain company to act as basically their coordinator for services. I've seen both.
 
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