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Trump hits 53% soros freaks, china warns, japan fears

notquiteright said:
Oh I'd say there would be a black Lives Matter, there was just too many unarmed black kids being shot by the police.

Would there have been at least some sort of hard right political movement without the Koch Brothers?

Has the Orange Guy told a lie? Seeing Muslims dancing in New Jersey streets? Healthcare going up 35, 45, 55%, we lose trade agreements with everybody, Obamacare is solely responsible for the rise of part time workers...

I'd say that at first most people thought Trump was like the other demi-goads from history to our more recent PUB clown car primaries- NOW the realization is sinking in- The PUBs might just be crazy enough, desperate enough for a win to back this carny huckster!!!! :shock:

I'd say there could be a strong reason for the PUB establishment and it's billionaire backers to upset the Trump apple cart.

Now on Koch brothers and spending, I do believe they pledged 900 million this election cycle- did they lie about that? From what I've read Charles Koch is very disappointed with the entire pack of PUB clowns. he damn sure doesn't seem to support the Orange Guy... ;)

The only saving I see the Koch Brothers doing is their pledged money is waiting for the national election... but I see nothing about the rest of their billions... :peace
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I'd say both parties have their share of billionaire backers. Yes...even the RATs. As for what Koch Inc has spent...all I've read is that they ain't happy with the direction. I don't have any data on their support of Trump...do you? On the other hand there is ample evidence of Soros and moveon.org support of Bernie. But I'm sure that he really really really really doesn't like it. You know...what with his thing about billionaires and PACs influencing campaigns.
 
What if...? said:
You have a Trump drug test?
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No, but we need one. I am just picking the lesser of 2 evils. Trump has proven he can get things done in business and hopefully he can do the same as President. I think he will bring in the best people he can find the same as he does in business to get the job done. You don't become a billionaire by being stupid. It will most likely be between him and Hillary.

I just cannot support someone who believes in rewarding criminals with a citizenship while millions if not 100's of millions of law abiding people all over the world wait for a chance to come to this country legally. This puts out a clear statement to the world: The way to citizenship in this country is to have no respect for our laws. Plus I really don't want to spend the next 4 years fighting to keep what rights we still have. I also want a leader who can dedicate their time to leading this country not fighting to keep themselves out of prison. I guess that is why she supports criminal behavior. Now it makes sense.
 
VanceMack said:
I'd say both parties have their share of billionaire backers. Yes...even the RATs. As for what Koch Inc has spent...all I've read is that they ain't happy with the direction. I don't have any data on their support of Trump...do you? On the other hand there is ample evidence of Soros and moveon.org support of Bernie. But I'm sure that he really really really really doesn't like it. You know...what with his thing about billionaires and PACs influencing campaigns.
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Umm I have 'data' at least one of them... his own words- he doesn't like Trump or his ideas. Seems trump has a FAR bigger list of those who don't want him to win the PUB nomination, much less the National than just the two you mention. Given Cruz doesn't mind dirty tricks I can't rule him out as part of a Right Wing underhand protest movement- one or those red flag operations the radical right tried to say was being done when racists were found in the TP movement.

Seems a bit of a stretch to claim just one of the laundry list of billionaires who don't want Trump in office is behind this and many are ON THE PUB ESTABLISHMENT mailing list are not. Just seems a bit of a stretch to blame a guy who gives blanket donations to many groups to be orchestrating this for pittance really. Koch spent a great deal on the TP movement and those guys don't get a third of the credit you give Soros... ;)
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Why is Trump skyrocketing in polls a thing to uphold? The man is an American fascist...

Also, you know who else is freaking out? The Republican party... Not just that big bad scary guy named Soros.
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And Hillary is not an "American fascist"? :roll:
 
cpwill said:
If he wins the nomination, his favorable will rise a bit, but hopefully this is strong enough to deny this fascist asshole the Presidency.
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Fascism is people who disrupt political gatherings with the express intent of shutting them down, like moveon.org and black lives matter have done. Fascism is foisting a health care program on the the population that 2/3rds of the people are not in favor of. Fascism is intimidating banks into not loaning money or lines of credit to firearms dealers because you are opposed to private firearms ownership. Fascism is the notion that everyone else should pay for your college. Spare us all your nonsense about what constitutes fascism because you actually support it in its most obvious examples in this country.
 
notquiteright said:
Umm I have 'data' at least one of them... his own words- he doesn't like Trump or his ideas. Seems trump has a FAR bigger list of those who don't want him to win the PUB nomination, much less the National than just the two you mention. Given Cruz doesn't mind dirty tricks I can't rule him out as part of a Right Wing underhand protest movement- one or those red flag operations the radical right tried to say was being done when racists were found in the TP movement.

Seems a bit of a stretch to claim just one of the laundry list of billionaires who don't want Trump in office is behind this and many are ON THE PUB ESTABLISHMENT mailing list are not. Just seems a bit of a stretch to blame a guy who gives blanket donations to many groups to be orchestrating this for pittance really. Koch spent a great deal on the TP movement and those guys don't get a third of the credit you give Soros... ;)
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Sure...feel free to ignore the fact that the Soros funded and Bernie backing moveon.org is claiming credit for the protests, funding the protests and that he dumped money into Ferguson to watch it bern, twice, over a lie. Feel free to instead choose to believe that really...its Cruz that is doing it. Or the Koch brothers.
 
joG said:
Or get BS to run as an independent.
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On the Bernie can't stand list, the GOP is tied with Wall Street. He'll never throw an election to trump, but trumpeters will try to play this Nixon chaos card.

With Sen. Sherrod Brown as VP and Senators Warren and Sanders as surrogates; DEMs may vote again as in the last two Presidentials as compared to the last two mid-terms.

The electoral college map is troubling for HRC though, imho.

We'll see if the 20 million total GOP votes versus the 15 million total DEM votes coalesces the same way for one candidate .
 
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MolonLabe to cpwill said:
Fascism is people who disrupt political gatherings with the express intent of shutting them down, like moveon.org and black lives matter have done. Fascism is foisting a health care program on the the population that 2/3rds of the people are not in favor of. Fascism is intimidating banks into not loaning money or lines of credit to firearms dealers because you are opposed to private firearms ownership. Fascism is the notion that everyone else should pay for your college. Spare us all your nonsense about what constitutes fascism because you actually support it in its most obvious examples in this country.
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My word. Not supporting Trump automatically makes someone a Democrat, even when they're conservative. Who woulda thunk it? Either that or there's some weirdly screwed-up perceptions going on amongst Trump supporters, but... nah... that can't be it :doh
 
MolonLabe said:
Fascism is people who disrupt political gatherings with the express intent of shutting them down, like moveon.org and black lives matter have done. Fascism is foisting a health care program on the the population that 2/3rds of the people are not in favor of. Fascism is intimidating banks into not loaning money or lines of credit to firearms dealers because you are opposed to private firearms ownership. Fascism is the notion that everyone else should pay for your college. Spare us all your nonsense about what constitutes fascism because you actually support it in its most obvious examples in this country.
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:lamo. You have no idea what you are talking about :)
 
MolonLabe said:
Fascism is people who disrupt political gatherings with the express intent of shutting them down, like moveon.org and black lives matter have done. Fascism is foisting a health care program on the the population that 2/3rds of the people are not in favor of. Fascism is intimidating banks into not loaning money or lines of credit to firearms dealers because you are opposed to private firearms ownership. Fascism is the notion that everyone else should pay for your college. Spare us all your nonsense about what constitutes fascism because you actually support it in its most obvious examples in this country.
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You need a better dictionary. None of those are fascist.
 
LowDown said:
People are going from Rubio to Trump? WTF?
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I don't think so.

I believe all of the current Non-Trump, non-Democrat, voters will eventually end up voting for Cruz as the Least of Evils.

No one in their right mind wants another 8 years of Democratic Party Corruption, bad economy and ballooning national debt.

Furthermore, the Hildabeast has all of Trump's Fascistic tendencies, with a long established record of being completely corrupt and accepting bribes.

Bernie is spouting pie-in-the-sky-Socialist-Utopian-PipeDreams, and few with intelligence take him seriously.

That makes Cruz the default.

Being the last choice of desperate people with nothing but bad options is a poor way to achieve victory, but there it is...

It amazing me that out of a country with 310 Million Citizens, 32 Million Illegal Immigrants, and the new Obama 3 Million Radical Muslims, the leadership best of the best is the set of choices before U.S. in 2016.

By all the Gods, I wish the Democratic Party had the sense to seen the value of Jim Webb.

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TheDemSocialist said:
This is really the excuse given now? :doh
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It's not an excuse, just an observation. It is hypocritical in the extreme for democrats to rail against Trump as a fascist, when your bench consists of Hillary, and Bern. :roll:
 
Gaius46 said:
You need a better dictionary. None of those are fascist.
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People nowadays tend to confuse "Fascism" - which is a real, internally coherent, political ideology - with "stuff I don't like".
 
cpwill said:
People nowadays tend to confuse "Fascism" - which is a real, internally coherent, political ideology - with "stuff I don't like".
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'Cause they can't post the dirty word description that actually comes to their minds.
 
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joG said:
Or get BS to run as an independent.
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Who are you guys kidding. As soon as the wheels fall off the Bernie Express they will be jumping on the Hillary bandwagon. The woman they have been screaming at and calling her a liar will now become best....candidate....evah!!!
 
countryboy said:
It's not an excuse, just an observation. It is hypocritical in the extreme for democrats to rail against Trump as a fascist, when your bench consists of Hillary, and Bern. :roll:
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Are you implying that Bernie Sanders is a fascist? :doh
 
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