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Hillary's First Trump Ad?

calamity said:
So, you fall for whatever messiah comes along. How old are you?

I've been around long enough to now know that the bigger the promises, the more likely it is that the candidate is full of crap. Hope and Change, Compassionate Conservatism, Make America Great Again...all just BS to sold to the gullible. I ignore all that and focus on things tangible, easily identified traits.
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Trump is the guy who is mostly refusing to make promises, he is the guy who is saying that he will figure it out when he gets there, after he sees who wants a deal and how badly.
 
calamity said:
I was surprised to see it be a Bush group. Hell, Bush has been out of the race for months.

...or is he?
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I'm not. Bush thinks he deserves to be president for some reason. I think he would do anything to get it. Some of the Republican leadership still wants to change the race if they can. It would be nice to know what they are saying to Bush, Kasich and Rubio behind the scenes.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Ivanka is right, there is no animosity there with Trump. His style is NY, which is in places aggressive, and that is OK.
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Sometimes I like what he says too. And, I totally get the NYC bluster. But, there is a certain non-presidential quality about the reality show host that simply cannot be ignored. Like they say, his real slogan is Let's make America H8 again.
 
NonoBadDog said:
I'm not. Bush thinks he deserves to be president for some reason. I think he would do anything to get it. Some of the Republican leadership still wants to change the race if they can. It would be nice to know what they are saying to Bush, Kasich and Rubio behind the scenes.
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THe link says the founder is a former Mitt Romney operative. I'm not at all surprised to see Romney's mitts on this. Jeb may be working on a backroom deal, but I really do not see him as having a chance to do much except pick the guy who replaces Trump.
 
calamity said:
Sometimes I like what he says too. And, I totally get the NYC bluster. But, there is a certain non-presidential quality about the reality show host that simply cannot be ignored. Like they say, his real slogan is Let's make America H8 again.
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When the majority of the people who are voting today in the R contest say that they would rather have someone with no government experience in the POTUS chair it sounds to me like Trump went in with a winning plan. He will have to backtrack on that in the General, will need to look more "presidential" to get the I's and D's , but he has to win the nomination before he can worry about that.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
When the majority of the people who are voting today in the R contest say that they would rather have someone with no government experience in the POTUS chair it sounds to me like Trump went in with a winning plan. He will have to backtrack on that in the General, will need to look more "presidential" to get the I's and D's , but he has to win the nomination before he can worry about that.
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You don't see that as a clear sign that someone is being hoodwinked?
 
Hawkeye10 said:
No, I see that as proof that the political class has failed the nation.
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Politics is the art of compromise and achieving the possible while pulling votes from ideologues. People who believe the radical change dogma from guys like Trump and Sanders are gullible. The US government is designed to resist change...especially in the Senate, which Rubio never understood and, in his frustration, quit showing up for work

But, we can all thank the Trumpets for the liberal Supreme Court justices Hillary will get to appoint. That will actually institute change.
 
calamity said:
Politics is the art of compromise and achieving the possible while pulling votes from ideologues. People who believe the radical change dogma from guys like Trump and Sanders are gullible. The US government is designed to resist change...especially in the Senate, which Rubio never understood and, in his frustration, quit showing up for work

But, we can all thank the Trumpets for the liberal Supreme Court justices Hillary will get to appoint. That will actually institute change.
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Maybe Americans will wise up, and figure out the SCOTUS is supposed to be about justice, not political agendas.

Pain is a good teacher, and out failed political system kills us with a thousand cuts. .
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Maybe Americans will wise up, and figure out the SCOTUS is supposed to be about justice, not political agendas.

Pain is a good teacher, and out failed political system kills us with a thousand cuts. .
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Social Justice?
 
calamity said:
Social Justice?
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Only rarely do judges have the authority to overrule the people, their job is to adjudicate according to the laws that the people's representatives have written, most importantly the Constitution. . SCOTUS has surning my life often failed to stay in its lane, and often failed to follow the Constitution. THis court is largely a failed institution, and its declining status in this society is justified.

Promoting social justice is rarely this courts job, and most certainly is not when doing so ignore or violates the Constitution, which has become common for this court to do.

We should probably start a thread on SCOTUS, this is a political site, there are some smart people here, and there is much to be unhappy about with this institution.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Only rarely do judges have the authority to overrule the people, their job is to adjudicate according to the laws that the people's representatives have written, most importantly the Constitution. . SCOTUS has surning my life often failed to stay in its lane, and often failed to follow the Constitution. THis court is largely a failed institution, and its declining status in this society is justified.

Promoting social justice is rarely this courts job, and most certainly is not when doing so ignore or violates the Constitution, which has become common for this court to do.

We should probably start a thread on SCOTUS, this is a political site, there are some smart people here, and there is much to be unhappy about with this institution.
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People whining about the court liked it fine when the 5-4 decisions came down in favor of the Right. So, I'm not buying your gripe.
 
calamity said:
People whining about the court liked it fine when the 5-4 decisions came down in favor of the Right. So, I'm not buying your gripe.
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WOW, so according to you this socialist who wants both parties killed off who is a claimed former revolutionary and former Liberal liked the court being a political institution when it was handing down opinions with a conservative bias because the conservatives had more seats and is only complaining when the bias might flip......


HELL. NO.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
WOW, so according to you this socialist who wants both parties killed off who is a claimed former revolutionary and former Liberal liked the court being a political institution when it was handing down opinions with a conservative bias because the conservatives had more seats and is only complaining when the bias might flip......


HELL. NO.
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I' neither Right nor Left, but I fully expect most of decisions will be divided between the Right and Left. It is what it is. Twenty years of Rightist decisions will gradually be overturned now by a Left leaning court. Some will be good things, some bad.
 
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