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Do blacks commit a disproportionate percentage of crimes in the US?

americanwoman said:
Can you name specific liberal policies that have done what you claim?
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I think it has been largely corrected, but from roughly the 1960s into the 1980s a family could not qualify for public assistance if the father was in the home.

My dates may be slightly off, but something like that.
 
I'll tell you exactly why blacks commit a disproportional amount of crime, mostly focusing on violent crime..

People in the IQ range between 80 and 85 commit a highly disproportionate amount of violent crime, above and below those numbers drop off drastically.

Blacks have a disproportionate amount of people, compared to other races, in the 80-85 IQ range.

Blacks also have a disproportionate amount of people with the "warrior gene" which is activated when a gene carrier is exposed to violence. Black/urban culture of today almost guarantees that these people will be exposed to violence and therefore the gene is activated.

Blacks also display a disproportionate amount of violence against there children such as spanking which is also a factor in activated warrior genes.


There you have it, that's the truth. It's almost ALL about low IQ and genetics..
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Do this unmentionable other countries have a deep rooted problem of entrenched racism that continues to cause large socioeconomic gaps?
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Look at India. The majority of the population is dirt poor. They also have a caste system that is very old and much more severe for shaping people's lives than American racism.

There is virtually no possible way for someone to advance in life if they're born into the lower castes of India. Black Americans are given free college education, preferential treatment in some hiring situations, and they still have the highest crime rates of any group in the U.S..

If you're looking for someone to feel sorry for, there are way more deserving people in this world. Poke your head out of the sand and it will be evident.
 
Orly? said:
I'll tell you exactly why blacks commit a disproportional amount of crime, mostly focusing on violent crime..

People in the IQ range between 80 and 85 commit a highly disproportionate amount of violent crime, above and below those numbers drop off drastically.

Blacks have a disproportionate amount of people, compared to other races, in the 80-85 IQ range.

Blacks also have a disproportionate amount of people with the "warrior gene" which is activated when a gene carrier is exposed to violence. Black/urban culture of today almost guarantees that these people will be exposed to violence and therefore the gene is activated.

Blacks also display a disproportionate amount of violence against there children such as spanking which is also a factor in activated warrior genes.


There you have it, that's the truth. It's almost ALL about low IQ and genetics..
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Thank you Charles Murray for your racist views in the matter, care to explain how it is that when you hold economic conditions equal, the difference disappears?
 
truthatallcost said:
Look at India. The majority of the population is dirt poor. They also have a caste system that is very old and much more severe for shaping people's lives than American racism.

There is virtually no possible way for someone to advance in life if they're born into the lower castes of India. Black Americans are given free college education, preferential treatment in some hiring situations, and they still have the highest crime rates of any group in the U.S..

If you're looking for someone to feel sorry for, there are way more deserving people in this world. Poke your head out of the sand and it will be evident.
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I'm glad you brought up the caste system because it parallels the racism of the US, and if you think that there is equal access for blacks in the US, then you did not read any of the links already provided. Further, even when equal or superior education levels are achieved, blacks are still paid less than their cohorts.

Do I even have to get into the current GOP campaign to provide you with evidence of the racism still prevalent in our society?
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
I'm glad you brought up the caste system because it parallels the racism of the US, and if you think that there is equal access for blacks in the US, the you did not read any of the links already provided. Further, even when equal or superior education levels are achieved, blacks are still payed less than there cohorts.

Do I even have to get into the current GOP campaign to provide you with evidence of the racism still prevalent in our society?
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Maybe we should all just start bitching about Asian Privilege.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Thank you Charles Murray for your racist views in the matter, care to explain how it is that when you hold economic conditions equal, the difference disappears?
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Economic conditions are also highly based on IQ. Higher IQ people tend to make more money and lower IQ people tend to make less..

Blacks have a disproportionate amount of low IQ people, therefore a disproportionate amount of poor or less wealthy people, and many in the sweet spot of IQ for violent crime.
 
calamity said:
Is anyone other than violent Black drug-selling thugs who turn their neighborhoods and schools into war zones preventing hard-working, law abiding Black kids from getting a good education and landing jobs in high places?
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Ah, yeah, there are. There are white drug selling thugs and Latino drug selling thugs and Asian drug selling thugs and Native American drug selling thugs who turn ghettos and barrios and parts of reservations into war zones preventing hard working, law abiding white kids, Latino kids, Asian kids and Native American kids from getting a good education. You probably haven't noticed because the knowledge would completely **** up your prejudiced perspective.

Qualified minorities landing jobs in high places is a separate issue.
 
Orly? said:
I'll tell you exactly why blacks commit a disproportional amount of crime, mostly focusing on violent crime..

People in the IQ range between 80 and 85 commit a highly disproportionate amount of violent crime, above and below those numbers drop off drastically.

Blacks have a disproportionate amount of people, compared to other races, in the 80-85 IQ range.

Blacks also have a disproportionate amount of people with the "warrior gene" which is activated when a gene carrier is exposed to violence. Black/urban culture of today almost guarantees that these people will be exposed to violence and therefore the gene is activated.

Blacks also display a disproportionate amount of violence against there children such as spanking which is also a factor in activated warrior genes.


There you have it, that's the truth. It's almost ALL about low IQ and genetics..
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warrior gene?

Got any documentation on that one?
 
calamity said:
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Maybe we should all just start bitching about Asian Privilege.
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Seeing Is Believing

The findings were striking. First, black job seekers were offered significantly less compensation than whites by potential new employers. Second, blacks were much more likely to accept these lower offers than their white counterparts. “This is exactly what you would expect if blacks know that they’re being racially discriminated against,” Spenkuch adds. Finally, and surprisingly, the researchers found that wage gaps narrow over time as black workers stay at the same job. “As an employer I may discriminate against you by offering a lower wage when I first hire you,” Spenkuch explains, “but over time as you work for me, I come to know how good you really are as an individual, and I adjust your wage accordingly.”

By taking these variables into effect alongside race, the researchers found that the “raw” wage gap between black and white workers—“which we observe at around 30 to 35 percent, if we don’t adjust for anything,” Spenkuch explains—narrows to between ten and twelve percent. This means that racial discrimination must account for at least a third of the factors that contribute to black workers receiving lower wages than whites. “It follows intuitively from the two assumptions in our model,” Spenkuch says. “Those assumptions are not necessarily innocuous, but we feel confident that they are plausible.”

Bias by the Numbers

The kind of racial bias that drives this effect, says Spenkuch, is called “statistical discrimination”—“which has nothing to do with any emotional distaste for working with minorities,” he adds. “In our model, employers are purely profit-seeking. The employer says, ‘I don’t care why blacks are less productive on average; I know that they are, because of the lower SAT scores and other data that are observable. Therefore, if I don’t know anything else about the candidate, I have to treat him as I would the average candidate in that racial group—that is, less favorably. Of course, by law employers are not allowed to do that. But the data show that it’s happening.”

Spenkuch is quick to assert that “we haven’t necessarily overturned the last twenty years of research on discrimination in the labor market with one study.” After all, if a third of the wage gap between black and white workers is due to racial discrimination, that means that the majority of the gap is still being driven by other factors, such as disparities in education quality and other so-called “pre-market skill differentials.” “Those factors clearly matter,” Spenkuch says. “What we want to argue is that it’s wrong not to pay any attention to discrimination, too. These results suggest that it’s still going on—and enforcing existing legislation would substantially reduce the wage gaps we observe in the labor market. It wouldn’t eliminate them. But it would narrow them.”

Statistics That Hurt: How Racial Discrimination Affects Wages
 
radcen said:
This would suggest there's maybe a little of both going on... a higher percentage of blacks committing crimes, though not as much as perceived and still over-reported.
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What is being reported may be correct in your viewing area.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Ah, yeah, there are. There are white drug selling thugs and Latino drug selling thugs and Asian drug selling thugs and Native American drug selling thugs who turn ghettos and barrios and parts of reservations into war zones preventing hard working, law abiding white kids, Latino kids, Asian kids and Native American kids from getting a good education. You probably haven't noticed because the knowledge would completely **** up your prejudiced perspective.

Qualified minorities landing jobs in high places is a separate issue.
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6% of the population, black males, account for roughly 50% of all murder in the US, over 90% of their victims are Black. That's an impossible statistic to just gloss over by saying, Whites, Latinos, and Native Americans sell drugs too.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Seeing Is Believing

The findings were striking. First, black job seekers were offered significantly less compensation than whites by potential new employers. Second, blacks were much more likely to accept these lower offers than their white counterparts. “This is exactly what you would expect if blacks know that they’re being racially discriminated against,” Spenkuch adds. Finally, and surprisingly, the researchers found that wage gaps narrow over time as black workers stay at the same job. “As an employer I may discriminate against you by offering a lower wage when I first hire you,” Spenkuch explains, “but over time as you work for me, I come to know how good you really are as an individual, and I adjust your wage accordingly.”

By taking these variables into effect alongside race, the researchers found that the “raw” wage gap between black and white workers—“which we observe at around 30 to 35 percent, if we don’t adjust for anything,” Spenkuch explains—narrows to between ten and twelve percent. This means that racial discrimination must account for at least a third of the factors that contribute to black workers receiving lower wages than whites. “It follows intuitively from the two assumptions in our model,” Spenkuch says. “Those assumptions are not necessarily innocuous, but we feel confident that they are plausible.”

Bias by the Numbers

The kind of racial bias that drives this effect, says Spenkuch, is called “statistical discrimination”—“which has nothing to do with any emotional distaste for working with minorities,” he adds. “In our model, employers are purely profit-seeking. The employer says, ‘I don’t care why blacks are less productive on average; I know that they are, because of the lower SAT scores and other data that are observable. Therefore, if I don’t know anything else about the candidate, I have to treat him as I would the average candidate in that racial group—that is, less favorably. Of course, by law employers are not allowed to do that. But the data show that it’s happening.”

Spenkuch is quick to assert that “we haven’t necessarily overturned the last twenty years of research on discrimination in the labor market with one study.” After all, if a third of the wage gap between black and white workers is due to racial discrimination, that means that the majority of the gap is still being driven by other factors, such as disparities in education quality and other so-called “pre-market skill differentials.” “Those factors clearly matter,” Spenkuch says. “What we want to argue is that it’s wrong not to pay any attention to discrimination, too. These results suggest that it’s still going on—and enforcing existing legislation would substantially reduce the wage gaps we observe in the labor market. It wouldn’t eliminate them. But it would narrow them.”

Statistics That Hurt: How Racial Discrimination Affects Wages
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Maybe start a job discrimination thread. This is a crime thread. I should not have responded to your earlier attempt to derail.
 
Orly? said:
Economic conditions are also highly based on IQ. Higher IQ people tend to make more money and lower IQ people tend to make less..

Blacks have a disproportionate amount of low IQ people, therefore a disproportionate amount of poor or less wealthy people, and many in the sweet spot of IQ for violent crime.
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See now I knew that that this was going to be too much to take....when I say "hold economic conditions equal" it means that 2 demographics are compared that have the same economic conditions, the difference is race, and then you look to see if their crime levels are different, what Kirvo/Peterson found...was that there are no differences.
 
calamity said:
6% of the population, black males, account for roughly 50% of all murder in the US, over 90% of their victims are Black. That's an impossible statistic to just gloss over by saying, Whites, Latinos, and Native Americans sell drugs too.
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But that is not what I said.
 
Orly? said:
Plenty of documentation.. Google "warrior gene" and see for yourself..
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ahh, one of the no response responses. thank you for your time.
 
Risky Thicket said:
But that is not what I said.
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I believe you did. You tried to equate the obvious real danger--of actually being shot dead--in a black neighborhood with some Barrio-Reservation BS.
 
calamity said:
Maybe start a job discrimination thread. This is a crime thread. I should not have responded to your earlier attempt to derail.
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Too late hon, you dived into the discrimination/income argument with both feet, and landed on a rock, so now you cry "foul".

I already posted Kirvo/Peterson analysis on race/crime, just like I have whenever I see these threads, it blows up anything yer kind has to say on the matter.
 
calamity said:
6% of the population, black males, account for roughly 50% of all murder in the US, over 90% of their victims are Black. That's an impossible statistic to just gloss over by saying, Whites, Latinos, and Native Americans sell drugs too.
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Nothing is impossible to the properly motivated.
 
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