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Romney Destroys Trump a "con man" and Fraud

MrT said:
As if constitutionality was some big limiting factor for Trump's policy recommendations.
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Anyone can recommend anything, so I guess you can make that argument. But recommendations never hurt anyone either, so are you all done now?
 
Moot said:
Phew, that was a scathing speech. Romney gave the speech in Utah so I suspect there were a lot church leaders there. Sooo, I don't think Trump is going to win in Utah. So who will the Mormons vote for? As it stands they seem to favor Rubio...(because he looks like a missionary). But if Trump wins the nomination it will be very interesting to see who the Mormons rally around.
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Romney will have no effect over me. The LDS scriptures advise to choose honest and wise politicians. Does saying one thing about Trump when he's begging for his endorsement and saying something different now qualify? Even his slam of trump, who deserves to be slammed, isn't completely honest imo. Romney is likely a good decent man but imo it is pretty obvious being completely honest is trumped by political rhetoric. Maybe why he lost, being a typical politician. Antway my theory that may be wrong.

On two key issues of Trump, deporting millions of people, and calling for a ban on Muslims, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints has published official statements recently against both. My guess is you are correct Rubio(along with Kasich) will do the best among the LDS demographics.
 
laska said:
Romney will have no effect over me. The LDS scriptures advise to choose honest and wise politicians. Does saying one thing about Trump when he's begging for his endorsement and saying something different now qualify? Even his slam of trump, who deserves to be slammed, isn't completely honest imo. Romney is likely a good decent man but imo it is pretty obvious being completely honest is trumped by political rhetoric. Maybe why he lost, being a typical politician. Antway my theory that may be wrong.

On two key issues of Trump, deporting millions of people, and calling for a ban on Muslims, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints has published official statements recently against both. My guess is you are correct Rubio(along with Kasich) will do the best among the LDS demographics.
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Mormons won't even let their children listen to Trump. lol But you're right, Romney is a hypocrite...but then Trump wasn't a threat to the entire world when he endorsed Romney, either.
 
MrT said:
If only because he adjusted his policy recommendation so that he "only" means non-citizens that are muslim.
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Trump said he wanted a pause in Muslim immigration into the US. Wise man. Oh how I wish we had stopped Muslim immigration into Sweden twenty years ago! A policy started by the Socialists that has led to social and economic disaster.
 
laska said:
Romney will have no effect over me. The LDS scriptures advise to choose honest and wise politicians. Does saying one thing about Trump when he's begging for his endorsement and saying something different now qualify? Even his slam of trump, who deserves to be slammed, isn't completely honest imo. Romney is likely a good decent man but imo it is pretty obvious being completely honest is trumped by political rhetoric. Maybe why he lost, being a typical politician. Antway my theory that may be wrong.

On two key issues of Trump, deporting millions of people, and calling for a ban on Muslims, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints has published official statements recently against both. My guess is you are correct Rubio(along with Kasich) will do the best among the LDS demographics.
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Here are some reasons why I think Trump's ideas on Muslim immigration are good.
How Sweden has stopped its citizens discussing the refugee influx | Daily Mail Online

And some of you think Trump is against free speech!
 
All the same people who opposed Romney in 2012 are now quoting him and we're not supposed to call bs?
 
Sweden said:
Trump said he wanted a pause in Muslim immigration into the US. Wise man. Oh how I wish we had stopped Muslim immigration into Sweden twenty years ago! A policy started by the Socialists that has led to social and economic disaster.
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A "temporary" pause that you would suggest lasting for twenty years?
 
Sweden said:
Here are some reasons why I think Trump's ideas on Muslim immigration are good.
How Sweden has stopped its citizens discussing the refugee influx | Daily Mail Online

And some of you think Trump is against free speech!
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Trump is against Free Speech because he wants to open up the libel laws by making it easier to sue newspapers for allegedly inaccurate statements. He would effectively try to overturn Supreme Court precedent by eliminating the requirement that, when discussing a public figure, the speaker must be intentionally attempting to spread false rumors.
 
Has anyone seen Jeanine Pirro's response to Romney? BAM!

 
MrT said:
A "temporary" pause that you would suggest lasting for twenty years?
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What I would suggest is immaterial since I am neither standing for office nor voting in the US. But since you ask I would say let's make it 25 years. For a start. No country benefits from importing the backwardness, superstition and intolerance that is Islam.
 
Sweden said:
What I would suggest is immaterial since I am neither standing for office nor voting in the US. But since you ask I would say let's make it 25 years. For a start. No country benefits from importing the backwardness, superstition and intolerance that is Islam.
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Except for Morocco, Afghanistan, Tunisia, Iran, Western Sahara, Mauritania, Tajikistan, Yemen, Iraq, Jordan, Mayotte, Somlaia, Turkey, Azerbaijan, Maldives, Comoros, Niger, Algeria, Palestinian Territories, Saudi Arabia, Djibouti, Libya, Uzbekistan, Pakistan, Senegal, Gambia, Egypt, Kyrgyzstan, Kosovo, Turkmenistan, Syria, Bangladesh, Mali, Indonesia, Oman, Kuwait, Guinea, Albania, Bahrain, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Sierra Leone, Sudan, Malaysia, Lebanon, Burkina Faso, Kazakhstan, Chad, Brunei, and Nigeria.

And that is just the list where Muslims constitute more than 50% of the population.

But please, you were about to go ahead and tell me how none of those countries benefited from their population following a religion that is followed by more than 1.6 billion individuals on this planet.
 
RetiredUSN said:
I think there are a few democrats on here that would agree with Jeanine on this one.
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She definitely tore Romney a new one - which he badly needed since his was already so puckered
 
MrT said:
Except for Morocco, Afghanistan, Tunisia, Iran, Western Sahara, Mauritania, Tajikistan, Yemen, Iraq, Jordan, Mayotte, Somlaia, Turkey, Azerbaijan, Maldives, Comoros, Niger, Algeria, Palestinian Territories, Saudi Arabia, Djibouti, Libya, Uzbekistan, Pakistan, Senegal, Gambia, Egypt, Kyrgyzstan, Kosovo, Turkmenistan, Syria, Bangladesh, Mali, Indonesia, Oman, Kuwait, Guinea, Albania, Bahrain, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Sierra Leone, Sudan, Malaysia, Lebanon, Burkina Faso, Kazakhstan, Chad, Brunei, and Nigeria.

And that is just the list where Muslims constitute more than 50% of the population.

But please, you were about to go ahead and tell me how none of those countries benefited from their population following a religion that is followed by more than 1.6 billion individuals on this planet.
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I have lived in only two of these countries, one Shia and one Sunni. Neither benefited in any way from being Muslim. You might now like to explain to me why Boko Haram is such a blessing for Nigeria.
 
Sweden said:
I have lived in only two of these countries, one Shia and one Sunni. Neither benefited in any way from being Muslim. You might now like to explain to me why Boko Haram is such a blessing for Nigeria.
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The **** man. That is precisely my point - Boko Haram is not representative of the religion of Islam just because they use Islam as a justification for their actions. You are ignoring the contributions of, literally, billions of individuals because of the negative actions of a very select few.
 
MrT said:
The **** man. That is precisely my point - Boko Haram is not representative of the religion of Islam just because they use Islam as a justification for their actions. You are ignoring the contributions of, literally, billions of individuals because of the negative actions of a very select few.
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If it was only "a very select few" they would be crushed by "the overwhelming majority of peaceful Muslim" we've been hearing about for the last 20 years. Strange how these "literally, billions" are so hard to , literally, see.

If there were no Muslims in Nigeria there would be no Boko Haram. Islam is intrinsically violent; the Koran and the Hadith overflow with instructions to kill. Together they provide all the justification for murder that anyone could possibly require.
 
MrT said:
The **** man. That is precisely my point - Boko Haram is not representative of the religion of Islam just because they use Islam as a justification for their actions. You are ignoring the contributions of, literally, billions of individuals because of the negative actions of a very select few.
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Buddy, it's not our responsibility to be mind-readers and figure out which Muslim is trying to kill us and which isn't. On the contrary, it's the responsibility of the Muslims to clean up the **** in their religion, so that it's not posing a murderous threat to the rest of us.

Take a look at this incident in Pakistan, where a jihadist murderer was executed for committing an assassination, and yet large numbers of Pakistanis took to the streets to protest on behalf of the murderer. That's a tiny minority of extremists? Hell no - that's a large number of extremists. I refuse to have the onus put on me to be a mind-reader and tapdance over who's malicious and who isn't, when it's their religion that's spewing out all the terrorism.



That assassin who is being honored and mourned by those huge crowds was responsible for murdering a politician who had dared to speak up in support of a poor Christian woman who had been put on death row for allegedly "disrespecting the Koran".

What had really happened was that a poor Christian woman got into a quarrel with some other Muslim women, and they then maliciously accused her of blasphemy, and she was sentenced to death:




The state governor who spoke up for the poor Christian woman was then assassinated. Now that the murderer has been executed, he is being mourned by huge numbers of people who've declared him a "martyr who protected Islam".

Sorry, but when that many people are monstrously mourning murderers and killers, they're the majority, not the minority - and I'm going to wonder why more Muslims aren't speaking out against these nasty people.

Wherever you go around the Muslim world, no matter which Muslim country, they always have discriminatory laws that treat non-Muslims like second-class citizens, or even like non-citizens. So that's no mere aberration, that discrimination is a dominant feature of the religion. You can bleat all you want, but I know the Muslim world better than you do. All you speak from, is a position of ignorance.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Former Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney has opened up on Donald Trump, calling him a "con man" and a "fraud".




Will it alter the dynamic?
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Romney is right.
The best thing that could possibly happen to the Republican Party would be Trump bowing out and the Party bosses picking Romney as the candidate.

But, that's unlikely, and would only work if Trump would really bow out and not try a run as an independent.
 
Orly? said:
Vote Trump because the politicians tell you not to.
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Trump is running for president. He's using every political trick in the book to gain points and further his political ambitions.

And he's not a politician? Really?
 
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