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White House: 'Death To America' Comments in Iran Only Meant For 'Domestic Audience'

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CNN is reporting tonight that the White House considers the "Of course, death to America" comments made by Iran’s Supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, as merely statements "intended for a domestic political audience."

That clueless take would be headline news everywhere right now if this were a Republican or conservative administration. The National Journal's John Kraushaar's tweet reporting that statement, and one reaction to it, follow the jump:

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So the Supreme Leaders words were only intended for a domestic audience-that makes it soooo much better.
But Bibi's words to his own domestic audience? Time for the UN to get involved.

Obama is asking us to believe Iran on a nuke deal, but not believe the "Death to America" comments. :doh

Someone explain to me why saying death to America was for domestic consumption is a good thing, please-it certainly does not seem that way.
 
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I'll wait for the GOP controlled congress to express outrage first. :lamo
 
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This is all window dressing anyway.

You would think that Khamenei is either bipolar or has multiple personality disorder given the wild changes in his tone from day to day. First he was for negotiations with the US, later he called them fraud and US bullying. Him saying "Death to America" is no real shock, but I agree it is a bit silly for the Obama Administration to dust it all off as nothing more than "Domestic Audience" theater.

The thing is when looking at the total speech that Khamenei gave, there is some accuracy to parts of it. We are in fact putting economic pressure on on the people of Iran, and it is a bottom up type of pressure designed to pit the people of Iran against their leadership. Khamenei knows this all to well and there is nothing we should be hiding behind, as that is our effort with sanctions. Force changes by harming the people, in this case economically. We have to own that part, and in historical context that sort of action leads to resentment.

But all of this does speak well as to how ignorant the Administration is acting with the assumption that any deal will be carried through and can be trusted. I do disagree with the UN comment, that useless organization has become nothing more than a large group of hypocritical bickering politicians with dubious intentions. There is nothing good about Khamenei's comments, the administration dismissing them is a showing of weakness.

I renew what I have been saying in other threads on the subject, as we have gone too far down this road for ideology alone. We should walk away. Seems to me the only way to obtain any understanding with any nation in the middle east these days is enticement into a deal, bottom up punishment forced deals simply do not work.
 
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I'll wait for the GOP controlled congress to express outrage first. :lamo

Take a look at the comments at the news sites and twitter, it seems like many Americans are expressing outrage without waiting for a response from a political party.

Its almost like they know that is playing them, over nukes or something-and that our President is totally out of his league. :doh
 
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Take a look at the comments at the news sites and twitter, it seems like many Americans are expressing outrage without waiting for a response from a political party.

Its almost like they know that is playing them, over nukes or something-and that our President is totally out of his league. :doh

I see the news daily, and it reminds me of former presidents who attempted to use negotiation or Détente and kept an open mind, rather than to say if you do this, we'll do that. Sounds to me like the right wishes to keep rattling America's sabers rather than to negotiate, but not all republicans were like this, until most recently with those preemtive strike hard line righties.

Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I believe that was the problem with Bush attacking Iraq, he wanted to be first, or prove America's first strike capability all the while knowing Iraq had no ICBM's.
 
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I see the news daily, and it reminds me of former presidents who attempted to use negotiation or Détente and kept an open mind, rather than to say if you do this, we'll do that. Sounds to me like the right wishes to keep rattling America's sabers rather than to negotiate, but not all republicans were like this, until most recently with those preemtive strike hard line righties.

Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I believe that was the problem with Bush attacking Iraq, he wanted to be first, or prove America's first strike capability all the while knowing Iraq had no ICBM's.

The problem with the left is it fails to negotiate, and then calls that failure a success. We aren't getting anything out of this "deal", that means its no deal.
 
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The problem with the left is it fails to negotiate, and then calls that failure a success. We aren't getting anything out of this "deal", that means its no deal.

How do you know we're not getting anything out of this deal with Iran? Are you sitting in or eavesdropping the meetings? :doh
 
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How do you know we're not getting anything out of this deal with Iran? Are you sitting in or eavesdropping the meetings? :doh

What are we getting out of this "deal"? Iran gets billions, and retains the ability to build nukes whenever it wants.
 
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This explanation stinks of desperation.

Obama is desperately trying to salvage his ****ty legacy by coming up with a "deal" with Iran, but the Ayatollah's comments continue to leave such attempt in ruin.
 
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This explanation stinks of desperation.

Obama is desperately trying to salvage his ****ty legacy by coming up with a "deal" with Iran, but the Ayatollah's comments continue to leave such attempt in ruin.

The WH is correct. It is a very common tactic in the Middle East. The trick is figuring out what the person actually means...the Ayatollahs grip on power is a carefully built up narrative since the fall of the Shah. The US supported the Shah, the Shah brutalized his own people, hence the US is the enemy and saying "death to America" is just showing this. It is the main tactic that the Iranian revolution is built on and if you think that will change over night then lol.

It is a common tactic by politicians in all countries.. find an enemy.. real or made up, and keep going at it no matter what.
 
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The WH is correct. It is a very common tactic in the Middle East. The trick is figuring out what the person actually means...the Ayatollahs grip on power is a carefully built up narrative since the fall of the Shah. The US supported the Shah, the Shah brutalized his own people, hence the US is the enemy and saying "death to America" is just showing this. It is the main tactic that the Iranian revolution is built on and if you think that will change over night then lol.

It is a common tactic by politicians in all countries.. find an enemy.. real or made up, and keep going at it no matter what.

We know what death to America means. The Iranians are playing Obama like the chump he is.
 
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What are we getting out of this "deal"? Iran gets billions, and retains the ability to build nukes whenever it wants.

Israel receives billions, so does Iraq, so does Saudi Arabia, not to mention all of the weapons all receive too.

Before the shah, we were considered having a tepid relationship with Iran, can't you attract more bees with honey or sugar than salt?
 
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Israel receives billions, so does Iraq, so does Saudi Arabia, not to mention all of the weapons all receive too.

Before the shah, we were considered having a tepid relationship with Iran, can't you attract more bees with honey or sugar than salt?

SA is our ally, Iran is not.
 
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CNN is reporting tonight that the White House considers the "Of course, death to America" comments made by Iran’s Supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, as merely statements "intended for a domestic political audience."

That clueless take would be headline news everywhere right now if this were a Republican or conservative administration. The National Journal's John Kraushaar's tweet reporting that statement, and one reaction to it, follow the jump:

CNNonDeathToAmericaIran032315.png


- See more at: White House: 'Death To America' Comments in Iran Only Meant For 'Domestic Audience'

So the Supreme Leaders words were only intended for a domestic audience-that makes it soooo much better.
But Bibi's words to his own domestic audience? Time for the UN to get involved.

Obama is asking us to believe Iran on a nuke deal, but not believe the "Death to America" comments. :doh

Someone explain to me why saying death to America was for domestic consumption is a good thing, please-it certainly does not seem that way.

Liberals spin...that's a fact. They are real good at it...that's a fact. Heck, they spin even when they don't have to. That's a fact.

The good thing is, there are a lot of Americans who are not fooled by the spin. The bad thing is, there are more Americans who lap up that spin like a kitten at a bowl of milk.
 
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Liberals spin...that's a fact. They are real good at it...that's a fact. Heck, they spin even when they don't have to. That's a fact.

The good thing is, there are a lot of Americans who are not fooled by the spin. The bad thing is, there are more Americans who lap up that spin like a kitten at a bowl of milk.

No, POLITICIANS spin. Unless you're going to claim that conservatives don't spin.
 
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No, POLITICIANS spin. Unless you're going to claim that conservatives don't spin.

shrug...

I know you care about this, but whether conservatives spin or not is irrelevant. We are talking about the liberal White House spin here.

My point stands.
 
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Israel receives billions, so does Iraq, so does Saudi Arabia, not to mention all of the weapons all receive too.

Before the shah, we were considered having a tepid relationship with Iran, can't you attract more bees with honey or sugar than salt?

"Does death to America" seem like an attractive offer to you?
 
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shrug...

I know you care about this, but whether conservatives spin or not is irrelevant. We are talking about the liberal White House spin here.

My point stands.

Your ridiculously one-sided point. Claiming that "liberals spin" is a "fact" while ignoring the fact that conservatives also spin is just being partisan for partisanship's sake.
 
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No, POLITICIANS spin. Unless you're going to claim that conservatives don't spin.

And? The libs are spinning this issue, not conservatives. Go derail another thread.
 
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Your ridiculously one-sided point. Claiming that "liberals spin" is a "fact" while ignoring the fact that conservatives also spin is just being partisan for partisanship's sake.

shrug...

Either dispute my points directly...or don't. If you think liberals don't spin, say so. if you think a lot of Americans don't buy their spin, say so. If you don't think a lot of Americans buy their spin, say so.

Anything else is irrelevant...but hey...it's your choice if you want to be irrelevant.
 
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Μολὼν λαβέ;1064461350 said:
And? The libs are spinning this issue, not conservatives. Go derail another thread.

No, I'll stay, thanks. I don't take orders from you.

When someone claims "liberals spin," rather than "politicians spin," the implication is that ONLY "liberals" spin. That's the general garden-variety hackery that is so prevalent on this site. Calling out the speck in your neighbor's eye while ignoring the plank in your own, and all that jazz.
 
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shrug...

Either dispute my points directly...or don't. If you think liberals don't spin, say so. if you think a lot of Americans don't buy their spin, say so. If you don't think a lot of Americans buy their spin, say so.

Anything else is irrelevant...but hey...it's your choice if you want to be irrelevant.

Do you know how to read? I didn't say "liberals don't spin." I said, "POLITICIANS SPIN."
 
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Do you know how to read? I didn't say "liberals don't spin." I said, "POLITICIANS SPIN."

I read it...and deemed it irrelevant.
 
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I don't know what it is but there is something hilarious about the "of course" part of that statement. It reminds me of this:

 
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I read it...and deemed it irrelevant.

That's nice. I assume you will condemn conservative spin when presented with it.

Oh, who am I kidding.
 
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