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poweRob

poweRob

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Whose for it?

I recall the left fighting against a flat tax forever and a day but now that the wealthy pay less than the middle class in percentage of income taxed... whose for it now?

And when I say FULL flat tax I mean corporate people's too and across the board.

ALL income. Let's saaayyyyy for the sake of argument.... 25%

Corporate taxes (no loopholes)
ABSOLUTELY NO tax free status' anymore
ALL forms of income be it work income, derivatives or stock options
No tax write-offs at all.

Whose for it now?
 
poweRob said:
Whose for it?

I recall the left fighting against a flat tax forever and a day but now that the wealthy pay less than the middle class in percentage of income taxed... whose for it now?

And when I say FULL flat tax I mean corporate people's too and across the board.

ALL income. Let's saaayyyyy for the sake of argument.... 25%

Corporate taxes (no loopholes)
ABSOLUTELY NO tax free status' anymore
ALL forms of income be it work income, derivatives or stock options
No tax write-offs at all.

Whose for it now?
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me-it will cause serious problems for Democrats who try to pander to the masses with promises of more goodies to them paid for tax hikes on the rich

the progressive tax is biggest weapon the left has for pandering
 
TurtleDude said:
me-it will cause serious problems for Democrats who try to pander to the masses with promises of more goodies to them paid for tax hikes on the rich

the progressive tax is biggest weapon the left has for pandering
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And the conservatives benefit by giving massive tax cuts only to their uber rich donors. Still... you didn't answer my question. Are you for it?
 
poweRob said:
And the conservatives benefit by giving massive tax cuts only to their uber rich donors. Still... you didn't answer my question. Are you for it?
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what part of ME did you miss?

your first post said who is for it

and I said this

TurtleDude said:
me-it will cause serious problems for Democrats who try to pander to the masses with promises of more goodies to them paid for tax hikes on the rich


the progressive tax is biggest weapon the left has for pandering
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with a $50k standard deduction..........

for the cost of living.
 
TurtleDude said:
what part of ME did you miss?

your first post said who is for it

and I said this
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My bad. I missed the "me" part. It was buried in your anti powerob progressive rant. :lol:
 
274ina said:
with a $50k standard deduction..........

for the cost of living.
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That is the classic, expected and standard answer to all taxation policy - tax anyone except me. ;)
 
I used to be in favor of a flat tax, but not anymore.
 
poweRob said:
Whose for it?

I recall the left fighting against a flat tax forever and a day but now that the wealthy pay less than the middle class in percentage of income taxed... whose for it now?

And when I say FULL flat tax I mean corporate people's too and across the board.

ALL income. Let's saaayyyyy for the sake of argument.... 25%

Corporate taxes (no loopholes)
ABSOLUTELY NO tax free status' anymore
ALL forms of income be it work income, derivatives or stock options
No tax write-offs at all.

Whose for it now?
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Negative, Ghostrider, the pattern is full.
 
countryboy said:
In other words, you don't want to contribute. Typical. :roll:
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No flat tax is REgresive.


you cant tax someone making $30k 25%, and $50,000,000 25% when they both spend the same amount on basic food, rent, car etc.

This results in a real tax of ~ 40% for the poor, and 25% for the rich.

UNLESS, you have a COLA for the flat tax to offset the basics.
 
I think the flat tax rate for all fedral taxes would be a good solution, though I would say in the range of 10%-15%, even for corparations.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
That is the classic, expected and standard answer to all taxation policy - tax anyone except me. ;)
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no a flattax is regressive, because of the basic cost of living.
 
Poiuy said:
I think the flat tax rate for all fedral taxes would be a good solution, though I would say in the range of 10%-15%, even for corparations.
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Not acceptable. It has to be at a percentage that pays for the government at zero deficit as it is.
 
poweRob said:
Whose for it?

I recall the left fighting against a flat tax forever and a day but now that the wealthy pay less than the middle class in percentage of income taxed... whose for it now?

And when I say FULL flat tax I mean corporate people's too and across the board.

ALL income. Let's saaayyyyy for the sake of argument.... 25%

Corporate taxes (no loopholes)
ABSOLUTELY NO tax free status' anymore
ALL forms of income be it work income, derivatives or stock options
No tax write-offs at all.

Whose for it now?
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I'm for a flat SALES tax. Abolish the income tax altogether; abolish all property taxes, estate taxes... trash all 723,000 pages of the tax code. Tax products and services sold only - flat rate, across-the-board.
 
poweRob said:
Whose for it?

I recall the left fighting against a flat tax forever and a day but now that the wealthy pay less than the middle class in percentage of income taxed... whose for it now?

And when I say FULL flat tax I mean corporate people's too and across the board.

ALL income. Let's saaayyyyy for the sake of argument.... 25%

Corporate taxes (no loopholes)
ABSOLUTELY NO tax free status' anymore
ALL forms of income be it work income, derivatives or stock options
No tax write-offs at all.

Whose for it now?
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So, as a business owner, I'd pay 25% on gross receipts and then another 25% profit? That may kill off any economic growth we have left.
 
I favor a flat tax rate. It would be a good start so that folks would see the true cost of our spend happy congress critters. Of course, it would never be proposed precisely for that reason. It is much more fun to just borrow and spend while playing all sorts of games with the tax code in exchange for some serious campaign cash.
 
274ina said:
no a flattax is regressive, because of the basic cost of living.
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Agreed. I think it should be as I say perhaps but after cost of living.
 
poweRob said:
Whose for it?

I recall the left fighting against a flat tax forever and a day but now that the wealthy pay less than the middle class in percentage of income taxed... whose for it now?

And when I say FULL flat tax I mean corporate people's too and across the board.

ALL income. Let's saaayyyyy for the sake of argument.... 25%

Corporate taxes (no loopholes)
ABSOLUTELY NO tax free status' anymore
ALL forms of income be it work income, derivatives or stock options
No tax write-offs at all.

Whose for it now?
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Liberal hat on: I support any form of taxation where I pay nothing in but get something out. Liberal hat off.
 
I have always been against progressive taxes of any kind, the most fairest way of levying taxes would be a flat tax for everything.
 
Fletch said:
Liberal hat on: I support any form of taxation where I pay nothing in but get something out. Liberal hat off.
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Or you could choose not to troll. Just sayin'.
 
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