Stupid Foodies

I hate foodies with the intensity of a thousand suns.

The reason is that mostly they are just ignorant and spread harmful disinformation that kills people and makes them sick.

Most modern citizens of developed countries never received an adequate education and therefore don't know why foods are processed. For the information of any foodies who might be reading this, foods are processed so that they won't kill you.

Take the case of cow's milk. Time was that children died on a regular basis by being infected from contaminated cow's milk. Then some guy invented Pasteurization, in which the milk is heated to kill the germs so that the germs won't kill babies. But these days foodies have forgotten, if they ever knew, that unpasteurized milk can be dangerous. So they kvetch about pasteurized milk being processed and that it just doesn't have the same taste as natural, raw milk, or some such nonsense.

That was the reason the executives of Odwalla, who ought to be in jail now, gave for not pasteurizing the juice drinks they sold. They thought pasteurization adulterated the taste. And so their unpasteurized juice drinks killed one child and made 66 of them sick, until they started pasteurizing them. I don't believe in boycotts, but I won't drink Odwalla juice because I don't want to die from food poisoning. Because those people let their screwy ideas about "organic" food override common sense. Who knows what other odd ideas they have about fruit juice?

This is just needless stupidity from people who think they are smart but are ignorant of the most basic things that safeguard our health here in developed nations.

That's why I stay away from "organic" foods. I don't want to die from food poisoning that we long since have learned how to avoid but idiots are now reintroducing to our diets out of pure ignorance.

Anyway, I thought of this because Jimmy Kimmel found out that most foodies who oppose GMOs don't even know what GMOs are. Nothing could better illustrate the stupidity of a foodie. Enjoy:

Jimmy Kimmel Proves People Against GMOs Don't Know What GMO Means

LowDown said:

I hate foodies with the intensity of a thousand suns.

The reason is that mostly they are just ignorant and spread harmful disinformation that kills people and makes them sick.

Most modern citizens of developed countries never received an adequate education and therefore don't know why foods are processed. For the information of any foodies who might be reading this, foods are processed so that they won't kill you.

Take the case of cow's milk. Time was that children died on a regular basis by being infected from contaminated cow's milk. Then some guy invented Pasteurization, in which the milk is heated to kill the germs so that the germs won't kill babies. But these days foodies have forgotten, if they ever knew, that unpasteurized milk can be dangerous. So they kvetch about pasteurized milk being processed and that it just doesn't have the same taste as natural, raw milk, or some such nonsense.

That was the reason the executives of Odwalla, who ought to be in jail now, gave for not pasteurizing the juice drinks they sold. They thought pasteurization adulterated the taste. And so their unpasteurized juice drinks killed one child and made 66 of them sick, until they started pasteurizing them. I don't believe in boycotts, but I won't drink Odwalla juice because I don't want to die from food poisoning. Because those people let their screwy ideas about "organic" food override common sense. Who knows what other odd ideas they have about fruit juice?

This is just needless stupidity from people who think they are smart but are ignorant of the most basic things that safeguard our health here in developed nations.

That's why I stay away from "organic" foods. I don't want to die from food poisoning that we long since have learned how to avoid but idiots are now reintroducing to our diets out of pure ignorance.

Anyway, I thought of this because Jimmy Kimmel found out that most foodies who oppose GMOs don't even know what GMOs are. Nothing could better illustrate the stupidity of a foodie. Enjoy:

Jimmy Kimmel Proves People Against GMOs Don't Know What GMO Means

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Is that even really the definition of a "foodie," though?

I thought it was simply anyone who liked to experiment with a wide variety of different foods, from a wide variety of different cultures.

In that regard, I'd even consider myself to be a bit of a low-level "foodie."

LowDown said:

I hate foodies with the intensity of a thousand suns.

The reason is that mostly they are just ignorant and spread harmful disinformation that kills people and makes them sick.

Most modern citizens of developed countries never received an adequate education and therefore don't know why foods are processed. For the information of any foodies who might be reading this, foods are processed so that they won't kill you.

Take the case of cow's milk. Time was that children died on a regular basis by being infected from contaminated cow's milk. Then some guy invented Pasteurization, in which the milk is heated to kill the germs so that the germs won't kill babies. But these days foodies have forgotten, if they ever knew, that unpasteurized milk can be dangerous. So they kvetch about pasteurized milk being processed and that it just doesn't have the same taste as natural, raw milk, or some such nonsense.

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Well I have to say, store bought milk does taste different than raw. I grew up on raw milk and our family never bought milk until I was 16 years old. None of us died from it because we were taught by parents who knew how to wash the udder, who taught us when and what mastitis looked like, and also how to properly handle raw milk as well as had a vet come out and test our cows on a weekly basis. Raw milk from farmers who are clean with their cows and properly milk those cows is just as safe as any pasteurized homogenized milk there is. Frankly these days I'd only do it for myself ... the risk of a lawsuit or government FDA moron shutting me down wouldn't be worth it. I'd keep the raw milk for myself.

LowDown said:

That was the reason the executives of Odwalla, who ought to be in jail now, gave for not pasteurizing the juice drinks they sold. They thought pasteurization adulterated the taste. And so their unpasteurized juice drinks killed one child and made 66 of them sick, until they started pasteurizing them. I don't believe in boycotts, but I won't drink Odwalla juice because I don't want to die from food poisoning. Because those people let their screwy ideas about "organic" food override common sense. Who knows what other odd ideas they have about fruit juice?

This is just needless stupidity from people who think they are smart but are ignorant of the most basic things that safeguard our health here in developed nations.

That's why I stay away from "organic" foods. I don't want to die from food poisoning that we long since have learned how to avoid but idiots are now reintroducing to our diets out of pure ignorance.

Anyway, I thought of this because Jimmy Kimmel found out that most foodies who oppose GMOs don't even know what GMOs are. Nothing could better illustrate the stupidity of a foodie. Enjoy:

Jimmy Kimmel Proves People Against GMOs Don't Know What GMO Means

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That there is rampant ignorance around GMO's ... no not surprising. That's the wonderful part of America - you can choose what you want to do from a multitude of choices of juice or whatever. People who like free range eggs can raise their own chickens and eat the eggs. People who want raw milk can buy a goat or cow and drink the milk sans pasteurization. No one's going to stop them. SELLING it to others though..... that's a different story.

What do foodies have to do with GMOs?

There's differences between foodies and the all natural crowd.

LowDown said:

...That's why I stay away from "organic" foods. I don't want to die from food poisoning that we long since have learned how to avoid but idiots are now reintroducing to our diets out of pure ignorance.

Anyway, I thought of this because Jimmy Kimmel found out that most foodies who oppose GMOs don't even know what GMOs are. Nothing could better illustrate the stupidity of a foodie. Enjoy:

Jimmy Kimmel Proves People Against GMOs Don't Know What GMO Means

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I agree about pasteurized milk.

There is nothing dangerous about organic food that washing them won't prevent. Organic just means that they are grown without pesticides and without chemical fertilizers. I don't buy organic that much, but often organic vegetables and fruits taste better. (I'm not sure why) The lack of pesticides means that they are healthier. Eating most insects is not unhealthy, if that is your worry.

I am not convinced that there is any danger from eating GMOs, but there are some good ethical/political reasons to avoid them. The main concern is that a handful of huge international corporations own the patents and control who uses their seeds. I don't want such a large portion of our future food supply to be controlled by a handful of corporations who will have the ability to increase the licensing fees to extremely high prices, especially when it becomes hard to obtain non-GMO seeds. That is too much power in just a few people's hands.

LowDown said:

I hate foodies with the intensity of a thousand suns.

The reason is that mostly they are just ignorant and spread harmful disinformation that kills people and makes them sick.
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No no no no.



Foodies merely refers to people who enjoy trying many different varieties of food, and who are very enthused about good meals, and so on.


You've confused a word equivalent to 'gourmand' with something to do with the all-organic crowd.


Please, get the terms right when posting such stuff.

A foodie is a gourmet, or a person who has an ardent or refined interest in food and alcoholic beverages. A foodie seeks new food experiences as a hobby rather than ...

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Foodie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Do some people just look for novel ways to categorize people so as to properly despise them?

LowDown said:

I hate foodies with the intensity of a thousand suns.

The reason is that mostly they are just ignorant and spread harmful disinformation that kills people and makes them sick.

Most modern citizens of developed countries never received an adequate education and therefore don't know why foods are processed. For the information of any foodies who might be reading this, foods are processed so that they won't kill you.

Take the case of cow's milk. Time was that children died on a regular basis by being infected from contaminated cow's milk. Then some guy invented Pasteurization, in which the milk is heated to kill the germs so that the germs won't kill babies. But these days foodies have forgotten, if they ever knew, that unpasteurized milk can be dangerous. So they kvetch about pasteurized milk being processed and that it just doesn't have the same taste as natural, raw milk, or some such nonsense.

That was the reason the executives of Odwalla, who ought to be in jail now, gave for not pasteurizing the juice drinks they sold. They thought pasteurization adulterated the taste. And so their unpasteurized juice drinks killed one child and made 66 of them sick, until they started pasteurizing them. I don't believe in boycotts, but I won't drink Odwalla juice because I don't want to die from food poisoning. Because those people let their screwy ideas about "organic" food override common sense. Who knows what other odd ideas they have about fruit juice?

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Nothing personal LowDown as I'm sure we agree on plenty of things, but I think you might be overgeneralizing here just a bit. I won't feed raw milk to my kid, but I also won't feed processed packaged food to my kid. We have our own juicer and make juice from organic produce and feed it to him. We have an industrial Vitamix and blend every organic ingredient under the sun and feed it to him. We have a top of the line pressure canner and feed him canned organic asparagus which he eats like a fiend.

In short, we have nothing against processed food. It's just that we process it ourselves, and we're selective about every ingredient that goes into it.

This is just needless stupidity from people who think they are smart but are ignorant of the most basic things that safeguard our health here in developed nations.

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On the flip side of the coin, I find it needlessly stupid that Americans would huddle in fear of their food and pray for the FDA and USDA to save them, when in fact the FDA and USDA work for these guys:



Even the dreaded "organics" are just another arm of the giants:

That's why I stay away from "organic" foods. I don't want to die from food poisoning that we long since have learned how to avoid but idiots are now reintroducing to our diets out of pure ignorance.

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For you to auto-associate organic food with food poisoning is the sort of pure ignorance you seem to advise against. Food kills an infinitesimally small number of us. A much more important decision is whether you want to reward agribusiness giants with your food purchases or whether you want to support small business.

With that said, some GMOs are done so to reduce the amount of pesticides that would otherwise be used to ward off bad insects, weeds and fungi. Are the genetics of these GMO plants inherently safe? Hard to say. Jury's still out. But alternatively, are the pesticides/herbicides/fungicides that would otherwise be used in larger quantities safe? Almost certainly and definitively no, they are not safe, based on much more ample and convincing evidence. So by comparison, some GMOs (not all) might result in a safer product than non-GMO (but also non-organic) alternatives that rely on heavy use of petrochemical pesticides/herbicides/fungicides.

I might in some respects be one of those "foodies" you despise with a thousand suns, but I'm not necessarily extremist or dogmatic about it.

Neomalthusian said:

Nothing personal LowDown as I'm sure we agree on plenty of things, but I think you might be overgeneralizing here just a bit. I won't feed raw milk to my kid, but I also won't feed processed packaged food to my kid. We have our own juicer and make juice from organic produce and feed it to him. We have an industrial Vitamix and blend every organic ingredient under the sun and feed it to him. We have a top of the line pressure canner and feed him canned organic asparagus which he eats like a fiend.

In short, we have nothing against processed food. It's just that we process it ourselves, and we're selective about every ingredient that goes into it.



On the flip side of the coin, I find it needlessly stupid that Americans would huddle in fear of their food and pray for the FDA and USDA to save them, when in fact the FDA and USDA work for these guys:

Even the dreaded "organics" are just another arm of the giants:

For you to auto-associate organic food with food poisoning is the sort of pure ignorance you seem to advise against. Food kills an infinitesimally small number of us. A much more important decision is whether you want to reward agribusiness giants with your food purchases or whether you want to support small business.

With that said, some GMOs are done so to reduce the amount of pesticides that would otherwise be used to ward off bad insects, weeds and fungi. Are the genetics of these GMO plants inherently safe? Hard to say. Jury's still out. But alternatively, are the pesticides/herbicides/fungicides that would otherwise be used in larger quantities safe? Almost certainly and definitively no, they are not safe, based on much more ample and convincing evidence. So by comparison, some GMOs (not all) might result in a safer product than non-GMO (but also non-organic) alternatives that rely on heavy use of petrochemical pesticides/herbicides/fungicides.

I might in some respects be one of those "foodies" you despise with a thousand suns, but I'm not necessarily extremist or dogmatic about it.

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Any simple item of food, such as an apple, contains thousands of natural chemicals. Most of them have never been tested for harmful effects. All we know is that no one has noticed any ill effects from eating apples so far. For all we know they cause Alzheimer's disease but no one has discovered it yet. Just because they are natural doesn't mean they are not harmful. Some of the most potent poisons we know of are natural chemicals. Application of a chemical that has been tested for harmful effects to keep the apple from being wormy does not seem like such a big deal in context. Use of chemicals that have been tested to keep canned foods from spoiling also, to reasonable people, is not a big deal and represents a positive development -- extended shelf life, less waste, less food poisoning. By the same token, when a GMO is produced the modification is known and tested and confers advantages, such as resistance to insects. I don't know why foodies are obsessed with additives when there is so much about the foods we eat that isn't even known.

What can one say about all that stuff about corporate/conspiracies? It's the very epitome of foodie thinking. The argument that foodies are just gourmets falls apart in the face off all of that. Foodies typically are obsessed with what they are taking into their bodies because they are convinced that this is what is messing them up -- adulteration from outside of themselves, adulteration from some great cabal of corporations, no less. Depression, anxiety, dissatisfaction is all due to food additives or some such. But most of the time it's just how they are, their own human nature, and they just don't want to face that.

As a foodie myself and former owner of the foodieforums.com web site, I can tell you foodies are simply people who appreciate good food and participate in the preparation and eating of good food. We were called gourmets in the old days. OP, I'd rather you pick someone else to hate more than a thousand suns. We've done nothing to affect your life. Our creed is simply that we all have to eat. We might as well eat well.

Hard Truth said:

I agree about pasteurized milk.

There is nothing dangerous about organic food that washing them won't prevent. Organic just means that they are grown without pesticides and without chemical fertilizers. I don't buy organic that much, but often organic vegetables and fruits taste better. (I'm not sure why) The lack of pesticides means that they are healthier. Eating most insects is not unhealthy, if that is your worry.

I am not convinced that there is any danger from eating GMOs, but there are some good ethical/political reasons to avoid them. The main concern is that a handful of huge international corporations own the patents and control who uses their seeds. I don't want such a large portion of our future food supply to be controlled by a handful of corporations who will have the ability to increase the licensing fees to extremely high prices, especially when it becomes hard to obtain non-GMO seeds. That is too much power in just a few people's hands.

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In addition, GMO's encourage an increase in the use of herbicides which are harmful to the environment and numerous organisms, including humans

LowDown said:

Any simple item of food, such as an apple, contains thousands of natural chemicals. Most of them have never been tested for harmful effects. All we know is that no one has noticed any ill effects from eating apples so far. For all we know they cause Alzheimer's disease but no one has discovered it yet. Just because they are natural doesn't mean they are not harmful. Some of the most potent poisons we know of are natural chemicals. Application of a chemical that has been tested for harmful effects to keep the apple from being wormy does not seem like such a big deal in context. Use of chemicals that have been tested to keep canned foods from spoiling also, to reasonable people, is not a big deal and represents a positive development -- extended shelf life, less waste, less food poisoning. By the same token, when a GMO is produced the modification is known and tested and confers advantages, such as resistance to insects. I don't know why foodies are obsessed with additives when there is so much about the foods we eat that isn't even known.

What can one say about all that stuff about corporate/conspiracies? It's the very epitome of foodie thinking. The argument that foodies are just gourmets falls apart in the face off all of that. Foodies typically are obsessed with what they are taking into their bodies because they are convinced that this is what is messing them up -- adulteration from outside of themselves, adulteration from some great cabal of corporations, no less. Depression, anxiety, dissatisfaction is all due to food additives or some such. But most of the time it's just how they are, their own human nature, and they just don't want to face that.

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Yes, all food contains chemicals and chemicals can be dangerous. therefore, we should not worry about the dangers of food

unless it's Odwalla juice

Gathomas88 said:

Is that even really the definition of a "foodie," though?

I thought it was simply anyone who liked to experiment with a wide variety of different foods, from a wide variety of different cultures.

In that regard, I'd even consider myself to be a bit of a low-level "foodie."

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No, Low Down doesnt know wtf hes talking about.