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Destabilizer-in-Chief

US Conservative said:
Saving Private Ryan? :lol:

Say anything, its a great little movie.
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Was there an orgy in an old folk's home in that movie? Or was the music video loosely based on it?
 
I'd say it's safe to say this thread has been irreparably derailed. I feel proud of myself now. And I couldn't have done it without you, US Conservative!
 
Jesse Booth said:
I'd say it's safe to say this thread has been irreparably derailed. I feel proud of myself now. And I couldn't have done it without you, US Conservative!
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I'm inclined to disagree. This thread is going nowhere, "libertarian". Its interesting what you'd like to think, though.
 
If you seek a destabiliser, look no further than PNAC, who gave you the dysfunctional "war on terror".
 
Manc Skipper said:
If you seek a destabiliser, look no further than PNAC, who gave you the dysfunctional "war on terror".
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And once you have a war going on, you have to manage it properly and listen to the advice of the people in the know, which Obama FAILED to do because he thinks that HE knows best, which he obviously does not.
 
ChrisL said:
And once you have a war going on, you have to manage it properly and listen to the advice of the people in the know, which Obama FAILED to do because he thinks that HE knows best, which he obviously does not.
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Obama has never known best. Its why we are where we are-the sequelae of a weak leader, not just here but in the world.
 
US Conservative said:
Your avatar always betrayed you. Luckily, its not up to one or two posters whats derailed, etc.

Isn't that nice, "libertarian"?
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Yes, the troll avatar is rather obvious, isn't it? :2razz:
 
Now, Iraq is going to fall to the insurgents, and all of those lives and resources are wasted because of mismanagement. What a shame!
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
So if the Iraqis don't want us to stay, we force ourselves upon them?
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Isn't this one of the most ironic things you've ever heard? These posters constantly complain that Obama doesn't follow the law, and now they are complaining that he is obeying the very thing their hero, Bush put in place. :lamo
 
Buck Ewer said:
Bush Junior signed the withdrawal agreement before Obama even announced his candidacy for nomination to the presidency.

How does Barack "own" that?/
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Right leaning people constantly corrected the lefties when Obama took credit for getting us out of Iraq. That's why he owns it. No body on the left could be honest about that fact when it happened, preferring what it looked like at the time instead of the facts.

That's why the left owns it. Because they said they did.
 
Buck Ewer said:
Tell us Planer what did Bush do to promote solar technology other than being in the whitehouse when the Park Service re-installed the panels Carter put up and Reagan took down? Was the installation ordered by Bush or the Park Service?
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I overlooked this the first time.

The system taken down in the Reagan years was the old style water heated black panels. They were prone to expansive maintenance, and not worth reinstalling after re roofing the Whitehouse.

The panels installed under Bush (43) were electric. Not heated water. Please start getting your facts strait, or we might have cause to not trust anything you say.
 
Buck Ewer said:
No ... the Parks Department made the decision to put up the solar panels on the White house.
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Fine, but you had be confused. You brought that up after I cited the biased way it appears in Wikipedia. You only made the reference to Bush (43) and the parks service, not Obama and Carter. It appears as thought you were denying the facts of bias I presented.
 
Buck Ewer said:
Wrong. The goal of the left all along was to stop the US from wasting life and treasure on a mission that was always doomed to failure and we had no business participating in.
BTW ... we won.
Your erroneous perception of what our goals were at the time demonstrates the fact that you were listening to the wrong people and swallowing their bull****..
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I wish I could believe that. There are too many facts that suggest otherwise. The simplistic truth is usually the case. The media presents varying degrees of facts to shape public opinion. Sometimes the media outright lies, but their best method is omission of relevant facts. Only presenting facts that support an agenda. At the end of the day, the democrat majority was afraid of losing their reelections, and cut proper funding off to the war efforts. This method of exiting made things even worse yet.

Hanoi Jane anyone?
 
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