American White Voters Solidarity Movement[W:327]

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Some of you may remember me from many months ago....


Well, I've been very busy on a number of Political Forums, and I've learned, discussed, debated, and thought a great deal about a wide variety of subjects, but partularly on the subject of Race in American Politics.


The following is the outcome of all of that thought and interaction:



I humbly stand before you today, to introduce...

The American White Voters Solidarity Movement and the principles on which it stands:


0] All people, regardless of history or minority/majority status, have a right to gather, discuss, and politically advocate the interests of their race, ethnicity, creed, gender, political viewpoint, religion or sexual preferences. Advocating the Interests primarily means seeking to insure truly EQUAL treatment. Advocating the Interests does NOT include asking for or demanding special preferences, treatment, set-asides, payments, benefits, advantages, reparations or exemptions.



1] No group in America should be given special government or policy preference or deference based on race, ethnicity, creed, gender, political viewpoint, religion or sexual preferences. Affirmative Action was and is a great injustice and needs to END.



2] No Elected Politician, appointed government office holder, or public employee shall be beyond criticism for job performance, up to and including termination, or above the Law, up to and including prosecution and imprisonment by using accusation of discrimination as a distraction, excuse, intimidation, or justification for their actions and behaviors. “You’re a Racist” is NOT a valid defense.



3] In those situations where race, ethnicity, creed, gender, political viewpoint or sexual preferences must be considered by law, such as hate crime penalties, discrimination lawsuits, or diversity quotas, those laws should crafted and be enforced equally in both directions. i.e. If an organization can be deemed to have TOO MANY Whites, it MUST ALSO be able to be deemed to have TOO FEW. If an organization can be deemed to have TOO FEW BLACKS, it MUST ALSO be able to be deemed to have TOO MANY!



4] No use of ethnic slurs, epithets, derogatory slang or abusive language against any person of ANY race, ethnicity, creed, gender, political viewpoint or sexual preference will be tolerated without loud and persistent objection.



5] No threat or act of violence, intimidation, illegal coercion, slander, or persecution will ever be used to pursue the above goals. We will simply agree to VOTE as a BLOC to remove those who oppose our goals and replace them with better people.



It should be noted that these principles do NOT involve any bias toward or against any particular race, ethnicity, creed, gender, political viewpoint or sexual preference, so effectively; dedication to the American White Voters Solidarity Movement (pronounced “AwVism”) is also deciding to join a similarly defined:

American Black Voters Solidarity Movement
American Latino Voters Solidarity Movement
American Native Voters Solidarity Movement
American Asian Voters Solidarity Movement
…
Armenian Trans-Gendered Gay, Tree Hugging, Squirrel Hunting, Toad Licking, Atheist, Hamster Lovers, Flat Earth Evolutionist Solidarity Movement…


We only put the term “White” in the title, because it is recognized by our members that currently it is White Americans who lack the protections and rights given, in large part BY White Americans, to all others, but not yet fully granted to White Americans themselves.

I consider myself, Kurmugeon, a Thomas Jefferson Liberal. I am STILL a registered Democrat. But due to ever increasing Racial Pandering, the Democratic Party, and what we often call “Liberalism” today, has left me in quest of Racial Spoils and Power.

This Movement is designed to END the use of Race in American Politics.

To Fix America's Race Problem, we have to take the Profit out of playing racial politics.


Right now, and for the last thirty years, mainly wealthy white aristocrats have been RAIDING lower and middle class whites of LOOT consisting of opportunities consisting of Jobs, Loans, Scholarships, Promotions, Retentions ( instead of Layoffs), Admissions, Grades, and then Re-Distributing that LOOT for their own personal political power and enrichment.


The only way to break the cycle of Racism in America is to take away the Profits that keep it going!


Well, Black Americans are not likely to jump up and demand that they stop receiving the LOOTS.


White Americans need to find the Pride, Purpose and Passion to stand up and DEMAND true EQUALITY and Civil Rights!


But those demands will be completely hollow without a STICK.


That STICK is White Americans to begin Bloc Voting!


If you despise Race Card Politics, the way to get rid of it will never be to try to give Blacks, or Latinos or Women, or Gays, or.... Whatever special interest group, you just can’t give enough LOOT to satisfy.

The more Loot you Re-distribute, the more they think they want and deserve. That's a Black Hole you can NEVER Fill.


The way to stop Racial Politics is to take the PROFITS for anyone out of it, by grouping together to demand absolutely EQUAL treatment and Civil Rights for ALL, including White Americans.


It is within White Americans Power and I state that it is their Responsibility to END Racial Politics in America, by simply demanding EQUALITY.


We Join the American White Voters Solidarity Movement to END the double standards.

One Law, One Country, One Standard!​

Who will have the courage and character to join our movement?​

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I didn't expect allot of response here on Debate Politics, this forum has kind of run off all the debate, leaving only the Party Line Liberals.


You should have seen the response to the American White Voters Solidarity Movement on the No Holds Barred Political Forum - America's Political Chat Room


The Liberals really know how to make a person feel welcome, particularly when you gore their sacred cows...


Well, other forums have a much better ability to "Debate" and discuss such issues, a few people even seen the light, and join the cause.


White Americans will eventually band together to stop the discrimination against them, now, or in a few years, it will come...


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Ok, I'll bite at the poisoned apple. Why? Why is race the unit of group selection that you chose?

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Sherman123 said:

Ok, I'll bite at the poisoned apple. Why? Why is race the unit of group selection that you chose?

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Because it is the wasp that has stung me the most in my 30 years of struggling to keep my family under roof and fed.


I have documented evidence of Blatant Race Discrimination when applying for college opportunies in my 20s, but I won't go into that here.


My last job, as a Neutron Imaging Camera Tech in Los Alamos, was lost more due to Gender Discrimination, than Race, but both were at play, as it always is in Government Science Jobs. That was the 2007 Democrats took Congress and directed the Labs Purge cycle, myself and 72 other White-Males-Over-40 got RIF'd.


This is a Link to a Lawsuit which was actually won at Argonne National Labs:
Racial quotas and preferences in the U.S. Department of Energy


The same thing was going on across the entire spectrum of DOE at the time. They were actually PAYING $10K awards to middle managers for Firing or driving off White-Men-Over-40 and replacing them with younger “Designated” Minorities.


I got the daily afternoon visits from the sarcastic, condescending female minority newly UNM graduated physicist who would say things such as “So, Dinosaur, why are you still here, we’re never going to let you accomplish anything…”


It was very UGLY and depressing.


Well, it caught me at a particularly bad time, my health was very poor, due to breathing in some heavy metal dust at another Govt. Lab.


I couldn't prove it, because they control the Doctors through the HMO Funds, though they did shut the facility down for 6 month decontamination that cost 32 $Million, but you can only sue the Government if they give you permission...


Anyway, once it was clear that the contamination was so bad that the highly paid Physicists and Managers might also get sick, not just the Techs who dealt with it daily, then they cleaned things up.


Anyway, my wife was also ill with Gall Stones that had to be removed in two surgeries; she had been out of work for some months before they RIF’d me, leaving us with no insurance at all.


When I tried to apply for the Liberal Government Programs and Assistance, well, if you're a White Male, you just don't "Qualify"! I asked again and again, and always the same answer.


Oh, I am sure they could have helped me, but the people I had to go through were a bunch of un-repentant "Shirley Sherrod" types which I have found to be COMMON in social service bureaucracies.


I applied for other jobs, while going back to school to finish a degree in Programming, but by then Obozo was in Office, and the emphasis on Race was quadrupled.


I have a rather androgynous name, and a last name that could be a Hispanic Sur-Name. (My Wife actually is Hispanic, but that doesn't count if you're married to a "Dirty White Male" when applying for any kind of Assistance.)


So I would get all kinds of enthusiasm about a Programming or Optical Tech job, emails, requests for transcripts, work histories, they were jumping all over themselves, until it came time to file the Required federal declaration of Race and Sex, then I'd get back a Form rejection letter in 30 to 90 Seconds.


They did NOT want the Pale-Male Optical Tech or Programmer; they wanted the Female Hispanic they were "READING INTO" my name.


So I finally took a low paying job answering phones.


My wife eventually recovered her health, but by then, we had already lost everything.


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When going back school, and waiting in various lines and waiting rooms trying to get health care and / or a decent paying job, I talked with many, many other Pale-Males-Over-40, the treatment I got was not the exception, but rather the RULE.


This is WHY I think that White Americans could and SHOULD band together to END the Institutionalized Racial Descrimination. It is a common experience shared by 10s of Millions of Americans and their families.


I've given you a brief look at MY experiences, the whole story of instances of racial discriminations would take multiple threads and hundreds of posts.


But it is not really about me, it is about a SHARED experience of 10 of Millions of innocent, hard working, tolerant, well-meaning low-mid income White Americans cut off because of their race.


It is in our power to END it.

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Kurmugeon said:

When going back school, and waiting in various lines and waiting rooms trying to get health care and / or a decent paying job, I talked with many, many other Pale-Males-Over-40, the treatment I got was not the exception, but rather the RULE.


This is WHY I think that White Americans could and SHOULD band together to END the Institutionalized Racial Descrimination. It is a common experience shared by 10s of Millions of Americans and their families.


I've given you a brief look at MY experiences, the whole story of instances of racial discriminations would take multiple threads and hundreds of posts.


But it is not really about me, it is about a SHARED experience of 10 of Millions of innocent, hard working, tolerant, well-meaning low-mid income White Americans cut off because of their race.


It is in our power to END it.

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I am a white female and my husband is a white male. We have not seen the discrimination you are discribing, so it is hard for me to relate. When it comes to social programs, they don't discriminate in my state. They only go by income and ability to go back to work. I know this because, when I became disabled we had a hard time with my lost income. We had to first make some life style adjustments so we could live within our means. Once my doctor bills got to be too much for us to deal with, we fell within the limit of getting help. I was able to get some of my medical bills covered with social programs and I was put on medicaid. It took some time before my SS Disability kicked in, and in that time I saw no discrimination with social programs. I worked for the state for many years, and then in the private sector until I became disabled. My husband works in construction. Neither of us has seen discrimination based on our race. My daughter had to get public assistance when she left her abusive husband until she was able to get on her feet. She saw no discrimination either.

After having said all that, the national statistics paints a much different picture. Unemployment with the black community is much higher than that of the white community. Women earn less than men in the same fields. Until these statistics change, I don't see a big move happening to change things.

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Hairytic said:

I am a white female and my husband is a white male. We have not seen the discrimination you are discribing, so it is hard for me to relate. When it comes to social programs, they don't discriminate in my state. They only go by income and ability to go back to work. I know this because, when I became disabled we had a hard time with my lost income. We had to first make some life style adjustments so we could live within our means. Once my doctor bills got to be too much for us to deal with, we fell within the limit of getting help. I was able to get some of my medical bills covered with social programs and I was put on medicaid. It took some time before my SS Disability kicked in, and in that time I saw no discrimination with social programs. I worked for the state for many years, and then in the private sector until I became disabled. My husband works in construction. Neither of us has seen discrimination based on our race. My daughter had to get public assistance when she left her abusive husband until she was able to get on her feet. She saw no discrimination either.

After having said all that, the national statistics paints a much different picture. Unemployment with the black community is much higher than that of the white community. Women earn less than men in the same fields. Until these statistics change, I don't see a big move happening to change things.

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If you're right, and it is not a wide spread experience, then you have nothing to worry about and your precious Democratic Party and its Racial Pandering and Racial Preferences are perfectly safe...






Do you remember the scandal about the 2000 Census, when they came out and said that there were ZERO, None, Zilch, no Black people in the income bracket over $1M / year, and a reporter challenged the accuracy of the statistics?


Do you remember the head of the Census in the Press briefings response?


"We did not feel that the life experiences of Oprah Winfrey, Tiger Woods or Diddy Combs meet the "REAL" black experience, so for the purposes of Calculating Income by Race, they were classified as White" ..... LOL, Go Figure?!






Then there was the California Labor Dept official who sent out a memo instructing his unemployment case workers to accurately ADD new unemployment claims to the Tally-by RACE, but when reports of Employment-Found came in, ONLY those which were Whites had their number removed from the Tally-by-Race, deliberately creating grossly false Labor Dept. Statistics on Racial Un-Employment.


After the Memo was leaked to the Press, Caught Red-Handed in the Act, the Official was not even Censured, much less fired. His boss merely stated that they would "look into the matter, and make any needed Corrections to the data".


I have to wonder, was it ever done? Especially under the current leadership and Justice Dept.







You may not have experienced Blatant Racial Discrimination, or maybe you were just to Liberal to Notice, but I assure you, many, many, Many OTHER White Americans have, and the problem under President Obama is growing rapidly.


The ObamaCare bill alone has 26 separate provisions for Racial Preferences.


Then there is the matter of the General Motors Dealership Closing directed by the Obama Car-CZar to use RACE of the Owners as the Primary determining factor in which dealerships to close.


It is like this across the country, a fudged factor here, and "little lie" there, and a stretching of the rules over there... But what it adds up to is a systematic process of Blatant Anti-White Racial Discrimination which is fostered, encouraged, organized and officially sanctioned by the Government.


Enough! It needs to End.

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Have you thought about becoming a NASCAR driver or maybe joining the PGA?

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Thorgasm said:

Have you thought about becoming a NASCAR driver or maybe joining the PGA?

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Better yet a fishing show.

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Just because I'm white doesn't mean I remotely identify with other whites - if we do so it because of things like values and political views - not our ****ing skin tone . . . give me a break. :roll: White solidarity movement :roll:

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Thorgasm said:

Have you thought about becoming a NASCAR driver or maybe joining the PGA?

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Actually, I am almost complete in creating a prototype device about the size and shape of a deep chest freezer which plugs into a standard 15 wall outlet, takes a 1/4 inch water line, and has an air intake, and synthesizes about 2 Gallons of Gasoline a day from any electrical power source; solar, wind, off-hour otherwise dumped into load banks grid power, anything.


The final technical challenge I am working on is the transition from the methane combiner into pentane and the efficiency of the PE chilled porous ceramic solid organic acid catalyst erosion problem.





You can make all the insults you want, but you'll find that many low-mid Income Americans do NOT fit the Stereotype of the "Dumb Hick".


You would not think of making such an insulting remark about a low income Black or Hispanic person attempting to advocate for racial equality, but you find it "Funny" and "Advent Garde" and Socially Acceptable to make such comments here...


Don't you see how you are a PART of the overall Discrimination against Low-Mid Income White Americans?


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Aunt Spiker said:

Just because I'm white doesn't mean I remotely identify with other whites - if we do so it because of things like values and political views - not our ****ing skin tone . . . give me a break. :roll: White solidarity movement :roll:

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Do you identify with wanting to get Race and Racial Preferences out of American Politics?

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Kurmugeon said:

Do you identify with wanting to get Race and Racial Preferences out of American Politics?

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yes - but not just politics . . . our entire society needs to bail on it.

We need to stop taking statistics and tracking data based on skin color. . . period.

I want true equality in which it's never factored in for any reason adn we're never lumped together with assumptions that we share views because we match up on the tone scale.

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Aunt Spiker said:

yes - but not just politics . . . our entire society needs to bail on it.

We need to stop taking statistics and tracking data based on skin color. . . period.

I want true equality in which it's never factored in for any reason and we're never lumped together with assumptions that we share views because we match up on the tone scale.

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As long as Low-Mid Income WHITE Americans can be LOOTED and the goods redistributed for the political profit of the Elite Ruling Aristocrats, those "Profits" will keep the system of Racial Focus on everything in America going and going and going...


That is the whole POINT of this thread.


When Bill Gates' kids don't get a Scholarship because they're white, nobody cares or notices.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...1ICwAQ&usg=AFQjCNHdSTkb773SvlRPdC3xPywWyXzNfA


When Bill Cosby's kids get a Scholarship because they're Black, nobody cares or notices.


http://www.therichest.org/nation/wealthiest-african-americans/


When a Low-Mid Income Hispanic from California has their kids receive a Scholarship based on their race, everyone applauds and pats themselves on the back.


When a Low-Mid Income White Family from New Mexico objects to their talented son being denied a scholarship solely on the basis of Race, everyone turns on them and shouts "You Dirty Rotten RACISTS!"


In the end, those without that particular scholarship all get their education anyway.... EXCEPT the Low-Mid Income White Kid.


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Kurmugeon said:

Actually, I am almost complete in creating a prototype device about the size and shape of a deep chest freezer which plugs into a standard 15 wall outlet, takes a 1/4 inch water line, and has an air intake, and synthesizes about 2 Gallons of Gasoline a day from any electrical power source; solar, wind, off-hour otherwise dumped into load banks grid power, anything.

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Sounds dangerous. UL probably won't certify it.

Kurmugeon said:

The final technical challenge I am working on is the transition from the methane combiner into pentane and the efficiency of the PE chilled porous ceramic solid organic acid catalyst erosion problem.

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Try using distilled white vinegar. That should solve your organic solidarity issue.

Kurmugeon said:

You can make all the insults you want, but you'll find that many low-mid Income Americans do NOT fit the Stereotype of the "Dumb Hick".

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I didn't insult you. I offered professions where affirmative action won't affect you. I know that low-mid income Americans are not "dumb hicks". I don't think you are a hick.

Kurmugeon said:

You would not think of making such an insulting remark about a low income Black or Hispanic person attempting to advocate for racial equality, but you find it "Funny" and "Advent Garde" and Socially Acceptable to make such comments here...


Don't you see how you are a PART of the overall Discrimination against Low-Mid Income White Americans?

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I don't even know what "advent garde" is. I'm not religious.

I hire white people all the time. If you have a clean driving record and can pass a criminal background check I could give you a job tomorrow. I'll warn you though, I hire black people too. I don't have quotas to meet. You will maintain your job based upon performance.

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Kurmugeon said:

If you're right, and it is not a wide spread experience, then you have nothing to worry about and your precious Democratic Party and its Racial Pandering and Racial Preferences are perfectly safe...

Do you remember the scandal about the 2000 Census, when they came out and said that there were ZERO, None, Zilch, no Black people in the income bracket over $1M / year, and a reporter challenged the accuracy of the statistics?

Do you remember the head of the Census in the Press briefings response?

"We did not feel that the life experiences of Oprah Winfrey, Tiger Woods or Diddy Combs meet the "REAL" black experience, so for the purposes of Calculating Income by Race, they were classified as White" ..... LOL, Go Figure?!

Then there was the California Labor Dept official who sent out a memo instructing his unemployment case workers to accurately ADD new unemployment claims to the Tally-by RACE, but when reports of Employment-Found came in, ONLY those which were Whites had their number removed from the Tally-by-Race, deliberately creating grossly false Labor Dept. Statistics on Racial Un-Employment.

After the Memo was leaked to the Press, Caught Red-Handed in the Act, the Official was not even Censured, much less fired. His boss merely stated that they would "look into the matter, and make any needed Corrections to the data".

I have to wonder, was it ever done? Especially under the current leadership and Justice Dept.

You may not have experienced Blatant Racial Discrimination, or maybe you were just to Liberal to Notice, but I assure you, many, many, Many OTHER White Americans have, and the problem under President Obama is growing rapidly.

The ObamaCare bill alone has 26 separate provisions for Racial Preferences.

Then there is the matter of the General Motors Dealership Closing directed by the Obama Car-CZar to use RACE of the Owners as the Primary determining factor in which dealerships to close.

It is like this across the country, a fudged factor here, and "little lie" there, and a stretching of the rules over there... But what it adds up to is a systematic process of Blatant Anti-White Racial Discrimination which is fostered, encouraged, organized and officially sanctioned by the Government.

Enough! It needs to End.

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Frankly, I don't recall the 12 year old census you mentioned. I have never heard that it reported no African American we millionaires. I googled your quote and found nothing on it. I also found nothing about the case you mentioned with the California Labor Dept.

I have no idea where you get the idea that Obamacare has 26 seperate provisions for racial preferences. I also doubt seriously that Obama had anything to do with dealerships closing down, much less to target white dealership ownders.
You will have to provide some sort of evidence to support your claims here if you want to be believed.

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Kurmugeon said:

As long as Low-Mid Income WHITE Americans can be LOOTED and the goods redistributed for the political profit of the Elite Ruling Aristocrats, those "Profits" will keep the system of Racial Focus on everything in America going and going and going...


That is the whole POINT of this thread.


When Bill Gates' kids don't get a Scholarship because they're white, nobody cares or notices.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...1ICwAQ&usg=AFQjCNHdSTkb773SvlRPdC3xPywWyXzNfA


When Bill Cosby's kids get a Scholarship because they're Black, nobody cares or notices.


http://www.therichest.org/nation/wealthiest-african-americans/


When a Low-Mid Income Hispanic from California has their kids receive a Scholarship based on their race, everyone applauds and pats themselves on the back.


When a Low-Mid Income White Family from New Mexico objects to their talented son being denied a scholarship solely on the basis of Race, everyone turns on them and shouts "You Dirty Rotten RACISTS!"


In the end, those without that particular scholarship all get their education anyway.... EXCEPT the Low-Mid Income White Kid.


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Well - evidently I don't support anything being based on race.

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Hairytic said:

Frankly, I don't recall the 12 year old census you mentioned. I have never heard that it reported no African American we millionaires. I googled your quote and found nothing on it. I also found nothing about the case you mentioned with the California Labor Dept.

I have no idea where you get the idea that Obamacare has 26 seperate provisions for racial preferences. I also doubt seriously that Obama had anything to do with dealerships closing down, much less to target white dealership ownders.
You will have to provide some sort of evidence to support your claims here if you want to be believed.

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Funny how you use Google When it suits you, but could not try "Google: ObamaCare Racial Preferences"


EDITORIAL: Obamacare's racial bigotry - Washington Times


Articles: Racial Preferences in ObamaCare


PJ Media » Hidden Deep Within ObamaCare, Racial Preferences


Beck: Obamacare will limit federal money to med schools that show the "proper diversity"


Obamacare’s Racial Quotas | The Lonely Conservative


Racial Preferences in Obamacare | American Renaissance


And dozens and dozens of other articles, if you only care to look...


The GM Dealership issue is just as easy to find (Google"GM Dealership Closing by race"):

Archived-Articles: Race Played Role in Obama Car Dealer Closures


Obama's GM Dealership Closures Were Race and Politcal Based - per TARP IG.


THIRDWAVEDAVE: GM DEALERSHIP CLOSURES BASED ON RACE, GENDER


The issue of the 2000 Census cooking of the Racial Statistics is harder to find, partly because the Census spokesman who made the gaff was fired for it, just after I watched the story on Fox News. The story was not covered by the other major networks... Of Course.


It was 12 years ago, I'll find it in a while, I might even have a video of the story saved on my old PC...

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Here is a whole LIST of current day Census fraud issues:

Tampering with the Census


I guess it is WORSE than I thought.

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Those bloggers have me convinced!

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As an European living in the EU, i can respect what you are trying to do here.

I hope you succeed and it works out.

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Aunt Spiker said:

Well - evidently I don't support anything being based on race.

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Nor do I.


Principle #1] No group in America should be given special government or policy preference or difference based on race, ethnicity, creed, gender, political viewpoint or sexual preferences. Affirmative Action was and is a great injustice and needs to END.



I am NOT advocating White Americans Band together to demand "Special" Rights.


I am Advocating then White Americans Band together to demand just plain BASIC EQUALITY!

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Rainman05 said:

As an European living in the EU, i can respect what you are trying to do here.

I hope you succeed and it works out.

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Thanks! It really means allot to hear your type of voice once in a while. This is a very Lonely fight.

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Kurmugeon said:

Nor do I.


Principle #1] No group in America should be given special government or policy preference or difference based on race, ethnicity, creed, gender, political viewpoint or sexual preferences. Affirmative Action was and is a great injustice and needs to END.

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Sure - with the whole "American White Voters Solidarity Movement" - you surely say "I don't want race being factored into anything at all - ever - for any reason"

yep.

I know your actual thought process here - you've taken offense and are trying to undo things with a 'but what about us' motive . . .and it's not subtle and not effective.

You cannot claim to want something and then weave race concerns right into your reasoning and overall basis.

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Aunt Spiker said:

Sure - with the whole "American White Voters Solidarity Movement" - you surely say "I don't want race being factored into anything at all - ever - for any reason"

yep.

I know your actual thought process here - you've taken offense and are trying to undo things with a 'but what about us' motive . . .and it's not subtle and not effective.

You cannot claim to want something and then weave race concerns right into your reasoning and overall basis.

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White men portraying themselves as race victims is a tough sell.