Thread: Enhanced Interrogation is Preferable[W:77]

Do you remember the moral indignation and outrage against enhanced interrogation? It was and is said to be torture, plain and simple.

Well, perhaps it is...

However, how does enhanced interrogation compare to the United States Government sending an unmaned drone to blast "enemies of the state" to smithereens?

I suppose if you are pro-Obama, you will try to cut him a break on this, however think about it...

I know what water-boarding is, however I cannot say exactly what it is like to be water-boarded. Having water poured on your face with the intent to simulate drowning does seem to be like a version of torture. As abhorrent as that technique may be, I am going to go out on a limb and say that water-boarding is preferable to being blown into bits by a guided missile with a large explosive payload.

You see, the Obama Administration openly admits to this strategy and continues to argue on behalf of it. Am I the only one here who is outraged by this unspeakable hyprocrisy?

Don't forget about how liberal activists howled about Bush and his forces rounding up wartime combatents and throwing them in prisons without due process. Bush Attorneys General were treated as true fascists for arguing this position.

How does Bush's tactic compare with Obama raining down death and hellfire on purported enemies of the state, and on whomever else may or may not be in the vicinity? Where is the due process for these individuals? It is a death penalty without due process. And how does that compare to water-boarding?

Originally Posted by Comment_Guy

Do you remember the moral indignation and outrage against enhanced interrogation? It was and is said to be torture, plain and simple.

Well, perhaps it is...

However, how does enhanced interrogation compare to the United States Government sending an unmaned drone to blast "enemies of the state" to smithereens?

I suppose if you are pro-Obama, you will try to cut him a break on this, however think about it...

I know what water-boarding is, however I cannot say exactly what it is like to be water-boarded. Having water poured on your face with the intent to simulate drowning does seem to be like a version of torture. As abhorrent as that technique may be, I am going to go out on a limb and say that water-boarding is preferable to being blown into bits by a guided missile with a large explosive payload.

You see, the Obama Administration openly admits to this strategy and continues to argue on behalf of it. Am I the only one here who is outraged by this unspeakable hyprocrisy?

Don't forget about how liberal activists howled about Bush and his forces rounding up wartime combatents and throwing them in prisons without due process. Bush Attorneys General were treated as true fascists for arguing this position.

How does Bush's tactic compare with Obama raining down death and hellfire on purported enemies of the state, and on whomever else may or may not be in the vicinity. Where is the due process for these individuals? It is a death penalty without due process. And how does that compare to water-boarding?

WTF are you talking about? there is no comparison. Those guys attacked us first and drones are the best way of beating them. Once they realize they are only hurting themselves and we won't send troops for them to target anymore they will give it up. Remembe GW Bush killed 100,000 Iraqi's without "due process" just because they might someday somehow be some kind of threat or something.,I guess. The drone attacks are mostly the result of our "ally" Pakistan actively supporting and protecting Alqeada and the Taliban.
Torture doesn't work, it's against the Geneva convention and endangers our troops, as John McCain used to say.

"Enhanced Interrogation" is "preferable" if it is effective. It many circumstances there are more effective tools at the disposal of a CIA case officer/interrogator.

how about no "enhanced interrogation and no foreign wars

Originally Posted by iguanaman

WTF are you talking about? there is no comparison. Those guys attacked us first and drones are the best way of beating them. Once they realize they are only hurting themselves and we won't send troops for them to target anymore they will give it up. Remembe GW Bush killed 100,000 Iraqi's without "due process" just because they might someday somehow be some kind of threat or something.,I guess. The drone attacks are mostly the result of our "ally" Pakistan actively supporting and protecting Alqeada and the Taliban.
Torture doesn't work, it's against the Geneva convention and endangers our troops, as John McCain used to say.

Thanks for that answer, iguanman.

"Those guys" attacked us first so let's blast 'em!! Sound familiar? I wouldn't have figured you for a Bush-like jingoist...

Who determines who "those guys" are? So, "intelligence" information adequately substitutes for due process? Not very liberal sounding, iguanaman!!

This last year, Obama declared that the war on terror was over. - Sending unmaned drones into sovereign states to fire missiles on their population when there is no war undertaken... I can't believe you, Iguanaman. You really have evolved!!

You made a passing mention of the Geneva Convention. Take some time to study it, iguanaman, and get back to us. Raining down death on foreign populations in a war that most of the world will not acknowledge it... it is in direct conflict with swaths of the Geneva Convention. Have you ever even read any of the Geneva Convention, Iguanaman?

You sounds like Attorney General Ashcroft making an argument.

To discuss torture, one must first define it.

Originally Posted by StillBallin75

"Enhanced Interrogation" is "preferable" if it is effective. It many circumstances there are more effective tools at the disposal of a CIA case officer/interrogator.

To clarify, you just said that IF the enhanced interrogation is effective, THEN enhanced interrogation is preferable to being blown into 10 million pieces by a guided missile.

You are saying that if it is NOT an effective enhanced interrogation (not fruitful in its results, you mean?), then it is preferable to go ahead and blow them off of the face of the earth.

Wow!!

Your point that the interrogator has more effective tools than water-boarding has absolutely nothing to do with the opening thread argument.

Enhanced interrogation… from water-boarding to listening to an endless loop of the Barney theme song… how do they compare to an order of execution by Obama, with NO due process. Obama declared the war on terror as OVER.

Originally Posted by KevinKohler

To discuss torture, one must first define it.

Somebody has control issues...

Originally Posted by Comment_Guy

Somebody has control issues...

I do not posit that water-boarding is or is not torture.

I am highlighting the hypocrisy of the Left, who howled over the notion that it IS torture and... where are these jailed individual's due process rights?

Now, those same people are conspicuously silent as our government arbitrarily sends aircraft into other countries to execute "enemies of the state" and whomever might be near them at the time.

What do you say, KevinKohler, are you capable of offering a substantive response?

Originally Posted by Comment_Guy

To clarify, you just said that IF the enhanced interrogation is effective, THEN enhanced interrogation is preferable to being blown into 10 million pieces by a guided missile.

You are saying that if it is NOT an effective enhanced interrogation (not fruitful in its results, you mean?), then it is preferable to go ahead and blow them off of the face of the earth.

Wow!!

Your point that the interrogator has more effective tools than water-boarding has absolutely nothing to do with the opening thread argument.

Enhanced interrogation… from water-boarding to listening to an endless loop of the Barney theme song… how do they compare to an order of execution by Obama, with NO due process. Obama declared the war on terror as OVER.

Are you seriously comparing torture to killing on the battlefield? Do you realize how dumb that comparison is?