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    The iPhone and Foodstamps.

    So my wife showed me a picture on her phone that said in the caption, "Someday I hope to be able to afford an iPhone like the woman using food stamps in front of me." Before I was married I actually thought the same thing. This is something that to me, shows the glaring inefficiencies in our current welfare system as these abuses happen constantly. I wouldn't go so far as to say it is very prevalent though. In my experience the woman was using an iPhone, wearing brand new Nikes, obviously just got her hair done, and here I am with my wife (fiance at the time) behind her with holes in my shoes, no cell phone, and working 60 hours a week and still can't keep up. I'm well paid and since, we both have all kinds of useless crap but my point is, is we worked for it. This woman did not.

    I will say, that if we close these gaps it needs to be from top to bottom. Social and corporate welfare reform is greatly needed. Something I do not see our current president doing as his legacy will be defined by getting the healthcare act through and keeping us on top. What say you people?
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    Re: The iPhone and Foodstamps.

    food stamps and iphone,reminds me of all those people on welfare who have more money invested in their car than i do on all my posessions.i think its time all social programs have better checks and balances.

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    Surprise surprise two white southern boys agreeing with each other about the black welfare problem.



    I mean c'mon guys you're making the rest of us look bad. The whole complaining about welfare queens schtick is sooooo 80's.
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    Re: The iPhone and Foodstamps.

    Hmm, I wonder what circumstances could lead someone to make purchases and then later have a reduction in income making them eligible for social safety nets.

    I also wonder if circumstances like that have become increasingly common over the last few years.

    This woman did not.
    And on what, exactly, are you basing that? In a brief encounter, all you have to go by is what they look like. Just sayin.

    P.S. Most people on welfare and food stamps have jobs.
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    Re: The iPhone and Foodstamps.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    Surprise surprise two white southern boys agreeing with each other about the black welfare problem.



    I mean c'mon guys you're making the rest of us look bad. The whole complaining about welfare queens schtick is sooooo 80's.
    LOL

    Yep, I would agree that it's absolutely ridiculous. Sure there are too many people out there scamming the food stamp system, but that is the tiny minority.

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    Re: The iPhone and Foodstamps.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    Surprise surprise two white southern boys agreeing with each other about the black welfare problem.



    I mean c'mon guys you're making the rest of us look bad. The whole complaining about welfare queens schtick is sooooo 80's.
    I may be southern and white, but it is not a race thing for me. I know plenty of whites on welfare and blacks that work hard at low paying jobs to survive instead of taking welfare. It is not about the "black welfare problem". It is about how much the government spends on welfare programs and the fact that many on welfare live better than people who work.

    Government Spending Details: Federal State Local for 2012 - Charts

    The welfare budget lists as $679.2 billion for 2012.
    Add in the $367.3 billion from healthcare identified as going to welfare. You get $1055.5 billion being spent on welfare. That is a significant amount of money.

    Now consider Demographics of the United States | Statistic Brain
    You see that those drawing those benefits and that money is only around 14% of the population (personally, I don't particularly care for this chart, but it is the only one I found without searching through lots and lots of pages, I think at least some of the benefits are going to some of the "working class", but then, they may not). That is a lot of money with a rather small percentage of the population benefitting from it.

    Another stats page: Welfare Statistics | Statistic Brain

    40 states where welfare pays better than an $8 an hour job, and that is better than minimum wage.
    7 states where welfare pays better than a $12 an hour job, that to me is utterly rediculous.
    9 states where welfare pays better than the average teacher in the US.

    Why in the world would people in these states ever take the time to get educated or seek jobs when welfare pays so well? Welfare should never pay or grant more benefits than actually working. It should only be a helping hand when needed, not a life style choice. It does however encourage me that so few do take that route when economically, many would be better off switching to welfare. Unfortunately, there are those who do chose that path, and the numbers are growing. We may be back to the numbers in the 1980s (I searched, but so far have not found any data for during the Obama administration other than budgeting data). It may be, as you say, "sooooooo 80's", but the amount of money spent on it and the number of people who get it makes it a very current problem.

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    i intentionally put the west virginia thing up there just so people wouldnt say its an attack against black people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    I may be southern and white, but it is not a race thing for me. I know plenty of whites on welfare and blacks that work hard at low paying jobs to survive instead of taking welfare. It is not about the "black welfare problem". It is about how much the government spends on welfare programs and the fact that many on welfare live better than people who work.

    Government Spending Details: Federal State Local for 2012 - Charts

    The welfare budget lists as $679.2 billion for 2012.
    Add in the $367.3 billion from healthcare identified as going to welfare. You get $1055.5 billion being spent on welfare. That is a significant amount of money.

    Now consider Demographics of the United States | Statistic Brain
    You see that those drawing those benefits and that money is only around 14% of the population (personally, I don't particularly care for this chart, but it is the only one I found without searching through lots and lots of pages, I think at least some of the benefits are going to some of the "working class", but then, they may not). That is a lot of money with a rather small percentage of the population benefitting from it.

    Another stats page: Welfare Statistics | Statistic Brain

    40 states where welfare pays better than an $8 an hour job, and that is better than minimum wage.
    7 states where welfare pays better than a $12 an hour job, that to me is utterly rediculous.
    9 states where welfare pays better than the average teacher in the US.

    Why in the world would people in these states ever take the time to get educated or seek jobs when welfare pays so well? Welfare should never pay or grant more benefits than actually working. It should only be a helping hand when needed, not a life style choice. It does however encourage me that so few do take that route when economically, many would be better off switching to welfare. Unfortunately, there are those who do chose that path, and the numbers are growing. We may be back to the numbers in the 1980s (I searched, but so far have not found any data for during the Obama administration other than budgeting data). It may be, as you say, "sooooooo 80's", but the amount of money spent on it and the number of people who get it makes it a very current problem.
    holy crap people in cali make more on welfare than i do.thats just bs.
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    Re: The iPhone and Foodstamps.

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    i intentionally put the west virginia thing up there just so people wouldnt say its an attack against black people.

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    No, just an attack against black people AND people from West Virginia. Really winning yourself some points there.
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    Re: The iPhone and Foodstamps.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    So my wife showed me a picture on her phone that said in the caption, "Someday I hope to be able to afford an iPhone like the woman using food stamps in front of me." Before I was married I actually thought the same thing. This is something that to me, shows the glaring inefficiencies in our current welfare system as these abuses happen constantly. I wouldn't go so far as to say it is very prevalent though. In my experience the woman was using an iPhone, wearing brand new Nikes, obviously just got her hair done, and here I am with my wife (fiance at the time) behind her with holes in my shoes, no cell phone, and working 60 hours a week and still can't keep up. I'm well paid and since, we both have all kinds of useless crap but my point is, is we worked for it. This woman did not.

    I will say, that if we close these gaps it needs to be from top to bottom. Social and corporate welfare reform is greatly needed. Something I do not see our current president doing as his legacy will be defined by getting the healthcare act through and keeping us on top. What say you people?
    you don't know anything about that woman in reality. anecdotal evidence is just that.

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