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Originally Posted by ReligiousLeft  Saddam already has been replaced by something worse than him. Us. More terrorism has happened under U.S rule than ever under Saddam. Iraq is chaotic. In order for Iraq not to be chaotic, Iraq has to become a police state. If you really wanted to help the Iraqi people you would support withdrawal. |
I am totally not surprised a "liberal" would make that bold statement:
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In the age when the divine right of kings is no longer taken seriously, and democracy is spreading, what does a tyrant have to do for job security?
1) Support a system of individualism, crime and punishment, that will be bought by the simplest of foolish philosophers, where anyone that “feels” they are being unjustly treated has a “God” given right to use civilian disguise in warfare, to take the law into their own hands “according to their own ideas” of justice:
“Again we say that when someone feels that he is unjustly treated, and no one is repulsing or stopping the injustice inflicted on him, he personally seeks ways and means for lifting that justice. Of course, not everyone is capable of finding the best way for lifting the injustice inflicted on him. People resort to what they think is the best way according to their own ideas, and they are not all capable of reaching out for what is beyond what is available to arrive to the best idea or means.
To find the best way, after having found their way to God and His rights, those who are inflicted by injustice need not to be isolated from their natural milieu, or be ignored deliberately, or as a result of mis-appreciation, by the officials in this milieu. They should, rather, be reassured and helped to save themselves, and their surroundings.” (Saddam Hussein Shabban 13, 1422 H. October 29, 2001.)
2) Take steps to ensure the “survival of the fittest” in reaction to article one:
“I think, that you, often criticize those whom you criticize in order to weaken them, by saying that they use emergency laws, and what emergency laws, by western standards, cannot be a general rule. But now, unlike what you used to say about those whom you accuse of being dictators and despots, we see dozens of emergency laws and measures adopted by the governments of the West, with the US in the forefront, after facing one painful event.” (Saddam Hussein Shabban 13, 1422 H. October 29, 2001.)
The feedback loop creates the job security for the tyrant‘s job description.
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The reason why "more terrorism has happened under U.S rule than ever under Saddam," is because Sunni Saddam and fifth column Louis Farrakhan were allies with tyrants like Sunni Al Quacka. Al Quacka never attacked Saddam's regime, and I would not expect the "hope" of the world to have done it either:
August, 1996: "More than 600,000 Iraqi children have died due to lack of food and medicine and as a result of the unjustifiable aggression (sanction) imposed on Iraq and its nation. The children of Iraq are our children.
You, the USA, together with the Saudi regime are responsible for the shedding of the blood of these innocent children. Due to all of that, what ever treaty you have with our country is now null and void.
The treaty of Hudaybiyyah was cancelled by the messenger of Allah (Allah's Blessings and Salutations may be on him) once Quraysh had assisted Bani Bakr against Khusa'ah, the allies of the prophet (Allah's Blessings and Salutations may be on him). The prophet (Allah's Blessings and Salutations may be on him) fought Quraysh and concurred Makka. He (Allah's Blessings and Salutations may be on him) considered the treaty with Bani Qainuqa' void because one of their Jews publicly hurt one Muslim woman, one single woman, at the market." (Declaration of War against the Americans Occupying the Land of the Two Holy Places.)
Online NewsHour: Bin Laden's Fatwa
July 1997,
South Movement, "the path of Jihad and proper action": "
Those who desire to face up to the Zionists conspiracies, intransigence, and aggressiveness must proceed towards the advance centers of capabilities in the greater Arab homeland and to the centers of the knowledge, honesty and sincerity with whole heartiness if the aim was to implement a serious plan to save others from their dilemma or to rely on those capable centers;
well-known for their positions regarding the enemy, to gain precise concessions from it with justified maneuvers even if such centers including Baghdad not in agreement with those concerned, over the objectives and aims of the required maneuvers." (On the 29th anniversary of Iraq's national day (the 17th of July 1968 revolution). President Saddam Hussein made an important comprehensive and nation wide address)
President Saddam's speech on July 17 1997
December 1997,
South Movement: "'If the United Nations fails to respond to the Organization of the Islamic Conference (meeting in Tehran) then the Muslim world must act and defy these sanctions,' Farrakhan told an audience of union representatives in the Iraqi capital." (
Louis Farrakhan)
South News Dec 12 1997
12/12/1997: "UN sanctions against Iraq were denounced as terrorism by Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan during a visit to Iraq, CNN reported."
Farrakhan - Iraq
February 17, 1998: "While speaking at the Pentagon on February 17, 1998, President Bill Clinton warned of the 'reckless acts of outlaw nations and an
unholy axis of terrorists, drug traffickers and organized international criminals. These predators of the twenty-first century,' he said 'will be all the more lethal if we allow them to build arsenals of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and missiles to deliver them. We simply cannot allow that to happen. There is no more clear example of this threat than Saddam Hussein's Iraq.'"
Bombing of Iraq (December 1998) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Text Of Clinton Statement On Iraq - February 17, 1998
February 23, 1998: One ("The best proof of this is the Americans' continuing aggression against the Iraqi people"), Two ("despite the great devastation inflicted on the Iraqi people by the crusader-Zionist alliance"), Three ("if the Americans' aims behind these wars are religious and economic, the aim is also to serve the Jews' petty state and divert attention from its occupation of Jerusalem and murder of Muslims there. The best proof of this is their eagerness to destroy Iraq")!
World Islamic Front Statement Urging Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders
September 2001: "Ramsey Clark, former U.S. Attorney General...David Muller,
South Movement, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia"
Workers World Oct. 4, 2001: Join a new anti-war coalition
September, 16th, 2001: "Whenever a nation becomes great and powerful by God’s Permission, as America has; whenever a nation becomes the undisputed ruler of the world, as America has, by Allah’s Permission; when a nation becomes the only remaining superpower, having the power to destroy other nations and people by the tens of thousands and millions, as Allah has permitted America the power to do, and that nation then has a spiritual lapse and begins to sink into moral decline, the Qur’an teaches that Allah (God) raises a messenger, but he raises that messenger from among the poor and the abject to guide and to warn the great and the powerful.
Allah (God) knows that the powerful will not heed a warning coming from their ex-slave or from the weak or from the abject, so the Qur’an teaches that Allah (God) then seizes that nation with distress and affliction, that it might humble itself. For only in humility can the proud and the powerful heed the Guidance of God, which is mercy and grace from Himself. Allah (God) used this tragedy, hopefully, to bring a great nation to Himself." (
Louis Farrakhan)
Response to 9/11 Attacks
“In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01. White America and the Western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into
the woodwork or just ‘disappeared‘ as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring Black concerns.”
http://www.cmaucc.org/EMRJeremiahWright2.pdf
"Some voices have risen on the part of some peoples, journalists, writers, and, in a very restricted way, the voices of those who are preparing themselves, in the shadow, to replace the rulers there. Nevertheless, the latter are still hesitant voices that deal with the situation in the light of the balance of interests of the posts they expect to occupy, and of the influence of the centers of power." (Saddam Hussein Shabban 13, 1422 H. October 29, 2001.)
“I first met Democratic presidential hopeful Senator Barack Obama almost ten years ago when, as my representative in the Illinois state senate, he came to speak at the University of Chicago. He impressed me as progressive, intelligent and charismatic. I distinctly remember thinking 'if only a man of this calibre could become president one day.'“…
…“
He is merely doing what he thinks is necessary to get elected and he will continue doing it as long as it keeps him in power.” (How Barack Obama learned to love Israel
Ali Abunimah, The Electronic Intifada, 4 March 2007)
ei: How Barack Obama learned to love Israel
"Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan said that presidential candidate Barack Obama is the 'hope of the entire world' that the U.S. will change for the better."
Farrakhan Praises Obama as ‘Hope of Entire World’ - America’s Election HQ
"When Sen. Barack Obama 'rejected' and 'denounced' the support of Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan during the MSNBC debate last week, it wasn't his finest hour.
Fortunately for Obama, most black people understand the game.
Obama should have found a way to escape Russert's trap without denigrating Farrakhan's legacy.
But, like I said, we understand." (BY MARY MITCHELL Sun-Times Columnist)
Why Obama 'denounced' Farrakhan :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Mary Mitchell
Re: Blind Nationalism 
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