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Old 01-15-08, 04:44 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Acknowledging that chickens feel pain is not humanizing them. Certainly you don't deny they have nerve endings?
If animals are going to die for my sustenance, the least I can do is make their ending as painless and quick as possible. This is something I strongly believe, and something I thank my father for teaching me when he taught me to hunt(behind my mothers back, she would not have allowed it). I don't hunt anymore, but he always told me that you hunt for food, not sport and you always try to end their suffering as soon as you can.
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If animals are going to die for my sustenance, the least I can do is make their ending as painless and quick as possible. This is something I strongly believe, and something I thank my father for teaching me when he taught me to hunt(behind my mothers back, she would not have allowed it). I don't hunt anymore, but he always told me that you hunt for food, not sport and you always try to end their suffering as soon as you can.
Yep, that's what I was taught.
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Acknowledging that chickens feel pain is not humanizing them. Certainly you don't deny they have nerve endings?
Pain is subjective. What if we ate slugs would you care if they where treat "humanely"? im sorry but i think you should think economically when it come to animals that have nothing like human emotions yes a chicken will run away from a flame but it doesent mean there is any appreciation.
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You do know that pigs are as intelligent as a small child and they understand and feel pain, right?

GoVeg.com // Cruelty to Animals // Pigs // Pigs on Factory Farms
I have heard that pigs are smarter then dogs and taste better too...

But for the record: yes I believe in a quick kill, that way I can cook it faster..

For those who wish to know the proper way to kill a pig is to shoot it in the head then string it up by the back legs and cut its throat to drain the blood out. When you start to gut him/her you string it up by the front legs.
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Acknowledging that chickens feel pain is not humanizing them. Certainly you don't deny they have nerve endings?
Of course they have “nerve endings” they taste great cooked on the grill…
or how about a "nerve endings" and rice......
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Pain is subjective. What if we ate slugs would you care if they where treat "humanely"? im sorry but i think you should think economically when it come to animals that have nothing like human emotions yes a chicken will run away from a flame but it doesent mean there is any appreciation.
Just because they have nothing like human emotions doesn't mean that pain is any easier for them to endure. It's incredibly arrogant of you to say "Well, this species brain doesn't feel emotions like humans do, thus we can justify killing them painfully and unnecessarily so." Get your head out of your ***. If someone were born without the ability to feel emotions as most people do (if for example they were born with an abnormal amygdala, prefrontal cortex, etc.) would you be able to justify violently murdering them because of their lack of emotion?
Not to mention that there is still some contention over whether animals feel emotion (see Emotion in animals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... it's wiki but it gets the point across okay).
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they dont have human feelings..
You mean they dont dig scrapping with fat guys in the street?


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Just because they have nothing like human emotions doesn't mean that pain is any easier for them to endure. It's incredibly arrogant of you to say "Well, this species brain doesn't feel emotions like humans do, thus we can justify killing them painfully and unnecessarily so." Get your head out of your ***. If someone were born without the ability to feel emotions as most people do (if for example they were born with an abnormal amygdala, prefrontal cortex, etc.) would you be able to justify violently murdering them because of their lack of emotion?
Not to mention that there is still some contention over whether animals feel emotion (see Emotion in animals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... it's wiki but it gets the point across okay).
Im saying its not cruel to battery farm hens.
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Acknowledging that chickens feel pain is not humanizing them. Certainly you don't deny they have nerve endings?
Hmmm, never tried them. What do nerve endings taste like?
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