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Celebrated author Mark Steyn has been summoned to appear before two Canadian judicial panels on charges linked to his book “America Alone."
The book, a No. 1 bestseller in Canada, argues that Western nations are succumbing to an Islamist imperialist threat. The fact that charges based on it are proceeding apace proves his point.
A ban on opinion, even disagreeable ones, is the very antithesis of the Western tradition of free speech and freedom of the press.
Indeed, this whole process of dragging Steyn and the magazine before two separate human-rights bodies for the “crime" of expressing an opinion is a good illustration of precisely what he was talking about.
Canada is well on its way to becoming a dhimmi state. Freedom of speech is paramount to a free and democratic society and Muslims are using Canada's system to eliminate any criticism of Islam. I hope this dosn't happen here in America because I will surely be going to prison for my views on Islam. It will be intresting to watch this story unfold to see if he is convicted of a hate crime. ~ Sgt Rock read the article at the link below CANADA'S THOUGHT POLICE
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Originally Posted by SgtRock Source: The New york Post
Celebrated author Mark Steyn has been summoned to appear before two Canadian judicial panels on charges linked to his book “America Alone."
The book, a No. 1 bestseller in Canada, argues that Western nations are succumbing to an Islamist imperialist threat. The fact that charges based on it are proceeding apace proves his point.
A ban on opinion, even disagreeable ones, is the very antithesis of the Western tradition of free speech and freedom of the press.
Indeed, this whole process of dragging Steyn and the magazine before two separate human-rights bodies for the “crime" of expressing an opinion is a good illustration of precisely what he was talking about.
Canada is well on its way to becoming a dhimmi state. Freedom of speech is paramount to a free and democratic society and Muslims are using Canada's system to eliminate any criticism of Islam. I hope this dosn't happen here in America because I will surely be going to prison for my views on Islam. It will be intresting to watch this story unfold to see if he is convicted of a hate crime. ~ Sgt Rock read the article at the link below CANADA'S THOUGHT POLICE | Mark Steyn is a Canadian writer known for making outrageous and ridiculous claims. He's a Canadian An Coulter. Nothing more nothing less.
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Steyn's writings show an easy familiarity with past and current pop-cultural phenomena such as South Park.[18] Steyn once presented a programme on BBC Radio 3, and has claimed to be the first person to play a Madonna record on that station
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ohoooh what a smart guy! A dude who watches SP and claims to be the first person to play a song of Madonna on the radio is certainly very aware of geopolitics 
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Originally Posted by Hatuey Mark Steyn is a Canadian writer known for making outrageous and ridiculous claims. He's a Canadian An Coulter. Nothing more nothing less. | His book is # 1 in Canada someone must be reading it. What is it with you, anyone who suggest that Islam may be a threat is automatically dismissed. Have you read his book America Alone? And how is it that at the young age of 20 you somehow became such an authority. It took me 47 years to mass together the knowledge and wisdom I use to make a judgment on a particular issue, and Im not allways right. I am also allways learning. But you seem to know everything. Ahhh, I remember what it was like to think I knew everything, sorry, think understand where your comming from. ~ Sgt Rock |
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Originally Posted by bub | Wikipedia is not a reliable source for information, anyone can submit false information to Wiki. Most college professors do not allow there students to use it as a resource do to its inaccuracies. |
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Originally Posted by SgtRock Wikipedia is not a reliable source for information, anyone can submit false information to Wiki. Most college professors do not allow there students to use it as a resource do to its inaccuracies. | no, there is a source:
^ Steyn, Mark. "Unfair Dinkum: Steve Irwin (1962-2006)." The Atlantic Monthly, November 2006, 150.
But my point is: why should I give credit to this guy? He's a conservative music critic and journalist. I'd rather believe a guy who has got a PhD in political sciences or islamology. |
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Originally Posted by bub no, there is a source:
^ Steyn, Mark. "Unfair Dinkum: Steve Irwin (1962-2006)." The Atlantic Monthly, November 2006, 150.
But my point is: why should I give credit to this guy? He's a conservative music critic and journalist. I'd rather believe a guy who has got a PhD in political sciences or islamology. | I don't think it should be about giving credit to the guy, it should be about is he actually doing anything wrong by expressing his opinion. Even if it is a stupid opinion, as long as he isn't actually hurting anyone with his opinion, then why shouldn't he be able to express it? I don't really know a whole lot about Canada's laws, so I don't know if he is breaking the law there or not, but part of the philosophy of our laws here in the US is that a person has a right to freedom of expression, no matter how stupid or uneducated that expression may or may not be. If, upon a reasonable person evaluation, he isn't causing any harm to another person, then he shouldn't get punished for this. |
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Originally Posted by SgtRock His book is # 1 in Canada someone must be reading it. | An Coulter has best sellers in the U.S. - Doesn't mean she's a scholar. Quote: |
What is it with you, anyone who suggest that Islam may be a threat is automatically dismissed.
| Yawn. Christianity is a threat. There. I just made a ridiculous blanket statement too. Quote: |
Have you read his book America Alone? And how is it that at the young age of 20 you somehow became such an authority.It took me 47 years to mass together the knowledge and wisdom I use to make a judgment on a particular issue, and Im not allways right.
| 21. And I probably read more books while I was in juvi then most 47 year olds have in their entire lives. I try to make an informed opinion. Not by reading a text and then thinking "Oh my thats the way It must be". I'm a student of all cultures and religions. Spiritualist if you will. The work I do has sent me to Christian countries. I've also visited African countries with large Muslim populations. Not to mingle with them but I've done my best to soak in some of their culture. I've prayed with Muslims in Mosques that weren't bigger then my house and sat in churches with Christians. Visited Palestinians in Marseilles and had great conversations with Jewish couples in NYC. And thats only in the last 4 years. I've heard their opinions of the same issue and have come to the conclusion that there is no such thing as an "evil religion". Only evil people. Making blanket statements and coating everybody as an extremist is wrong. No matter what religion it is. Quote: |
I am also allways learning. But you seem to know everything. Ahhh, I remember what it was like to think I knew everything, sorry, think understand where your comming from. ~ Sgt Rock
| Look up Mark Steyn. His ridiculous statements on Islam are nothing new. He claimed some kid in Jersey told his teacher to stay home and not go to Manhattan that day. |
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Originally Posted by roguenuke I don't think it should be about giving credit to the guy, it should be about is he actually doing anything wrong by expressing his opinion. Even if it is a stupid opinion, as long as he isn't actually hurting anyone with his opinion, then why shouldn't he be able to express it? I don't really know a whole lot about Canada's laws, so I don't know if he is breaking the law there or not, but part of the philosophy of our laws here in the US is that a person has a right to freedom of expression, no matter how stupid or uneducated that expression may or may not be. If, upon a reasonable person evaluation, he isn't causing any harm to another person, then he shouldn't get punished for this. | Yes you're right, it's more about causing harm than about his PhD.
What he says (trying to scare people with a supposed islamic imperialist threat) is not just an opinion. If he tries to make people who read his book fear the Muslims, then it's xenophobia, and I think it should not be published. |
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Originally Posted by bub Yes you're right, it's more about causing harm than about his PhD.
What he says (trying to scare people with a supposed islamic imperialist threat) is not just an opinion. If he tries to make people who read his book fear the Muslims, then it's xenophobia, and I think it should not be published. | Because god forbid people actually absorb varied information and think for themselves?
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