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what is the freedom of speech????

Freedom of speech does not exist in the United States. Don't kid yourself.

We have relative free speech and that's it. Free speech means I can say anything, ANYTHING, and not face legal consequences.

No. You cannot lie under oath. You can commit neither libel nor slander. You cannot incite others to commit crimes.

The freedom of speech does not grant the freedom to harm others.
 
Freedom of speech does not exist in the United States. Don't kid yourself.

We have relative free speech and that's it. Free speech means I can say anything, ANYTHING, and not face legal consequences.

Who are you to unilaterally decide what free speech means?
 
People lie under oath every second of every court action. People, by the millions, everyday, on the Internet commit some form of libel and slander and don't realize they do it...UNTIL...they get a letter from a law office, which hired a person to hack-track down IP addresses. Now, is there any doubt in anybody's mind that criminal case testimony sees its share of perjury and even in those instances, a DA has to think long and hard about incarcerating someone for lying. It is costly to imprison somebody for obvious acts of violence or thief of property, much less lies that occurs during trials, which usually flow like milk in a dairy, when a person is trying to save him or herself from a jail sentence.

In the majority of Civil Courts across the country there is zero penalty for perjury. Why? Because about 85% plus of the court cases today are civil. In every lawsuit for money (insurance claims, etc)...people lie their asses off. In divorce cases, people lie, lie, lie. It is a rare occurrence that a judge will declare contempt against a petitioner, plaintiff, or defendant for lying. If they did, we'd have to build trillions of dollars worth of prisons to incarcerate these liars.

Ask Charles Manson about inciting others to commit violence. But there are untold numbers of people who have incited violence without serving a day in jail or prison.

The meaning of Freedom of Speech is riddled with differing opinions and social consequences.

To me, the most important elements related to Freedom of Speech is keeping government out of homes, schools, art, etc...but most of all OUT OF MEDIA. When our media's lips are sealed, that's the end of our freedoms and liberties. And that includes the Internet. As we've all witnessed, look at how the Internet is redefining countries that have been under severe oppression by dictators and theocracies.
 
Acturally , In china the speaking control have gone for a while, it is not like the cold war situation, Today , the freedom of speech have already joined in chinese constitution ,the citizen can speek everything without punishment, but we do not have right to publish anything such as strong anti-comunisty book, it is lawlessness,the chinese goverment still keep the zero-tolerance about publishing , it is means if a chinse said "the communisty party should be kicked out from China",in the street ,there are nothing problem about him, but if he publish such these books, might be will get somthing trouble in the furture . Buy the way , the Chinese grovernment still control the majority of internet and mass media , a buch for disapproved news have be debrided.....
 
That's a fairly dubious assertion. Even if I accept the premise, the fact remains thatyou have more freedom to express yourself in the United States than anywhere else on earth. If you find the United States to be so oppressive, if this causes you significant psychic harm, the prospectus looks pretty grim.

It's not causing me anything and that's not what I am referring to. I am talking about a simple observation. Those who speak out to a large degree against government or try to shake the establishment at this foundation - well, those people end up dead. That's what happens when you rock the boat.

Freedom of speech is allowed as long as it remains within the acceptable framework. And that's not free speech - it's just a cleverly designed prison for the mind.

Again, essentially the only prohibition on individual expression is direct, immediate, and credible death threats. I don't see that as especially egregious. You can call that censorship, but that's lowering the bar pretty far.

Not really. Anything that you can imagine the U.S. government doing to people, they can do or have done. There is still an acceptable framework that citizens are permitted to operate freely within. Once our government became so statist, the results were predictable.
 
Who are you to unilaterally decide what free speech means?

Go outside and start organizing a protest for overthrowing the U.S. government. Spend time gathering people to join you.

Eventually, you will be dead.
 
It's not causing me anything and that's not what I am referring to. I am talking about a simple observation. Those who speak out to a large degree against government or try to shake the establishment at this foundation - well, those people end up dead. That's what happens when you rock the boat.

People like Noam Chomsky, Amy Goodman, Howard Zinn, William Blum, etc., etc.? Ok, well, Howard Zinn, tragically, is deceased, but he died of natural causes. Believe me, I hate the government, but this is a bit of a stretch.

Freedom of speech is allowed as long as it remains within the acceptable framework. And that's not free speech - it's just a cleverly designed prison for the mind.

No, it's allowed as long as it doesn't constitute an 'immanent lawless action.'

Not really. Anything that you can imagine the U.S. government doing to people, they can do or have done. There is still an acceptable framework that citizens are permitted to operate freely within. Once our government became so statist, the results were predictable.

You don't have to lecture me on the sins of the United States government. However, without some elaboration, this sounds like paranoid nonsense.
 
Why is everyone talking about Britain and Spain? You need a geography lesson? Read the title of the forum.
 
Freedom of speach is not MONEY. One human being -one speach. Corporations are not people. Some people are "more equal then others" because they have a lot of money, because they are incorporated.
 
Freedom of speach is not MONEY. One human being -one speach. Corporations are not people. Some people are "more equal then others" because they have a lot of money, because they are incorporated.

Indeed. Those who supported the "corporations are people" ruling don't seem to understand that speech does not occur in a vacuum, and that wealth and power make it easy to drown out other speech. Supporters don't seem to understand the chilling effect of giving such an unfair advantage to some. And a lot of those people are counting on it.
 
what a wonderful ? bro i dont no

kind regards to you.

mikeey
 
American, i hope one day we the Scots will join you with your independence,i know this is of the subject,but we we love you guys so much.

all the best to your great country,the United States of America,

mikeey
 
unless you swear or threaten somebody, you should have freedom of speech..
 
Go outside and start organizing a protest for overthrowing the U.S. government. Spend time gathering people to join you.

Eventually, you will be dead.

That's not the way it used to be, that's government usurpation of power. Back in the 50's the anarchists and such would talk open revolution against the US government and the government didn't stop them from doing so. We were a lot freer in some sense.
 
I just wanna know what is the concept about the freedom of speech????And how to identify the different of freedom of speech and libel,malign ,and something crime of speaking????

I think the Freedom of speech is not like U can say everything what ever u want....

who can tell me what is the freedom of speech????

thanks :mrgreen:

Freedom of speech is a concept, a novel idea, an epic means to share individual thoughts to where a mutual understanding of the moment can be shared with just a conversation. But like any tool to improve it can become a weapon to destroy what others make of themselves.

When descriptive speculation takes on the mask of definitive results while never defining anything completely accurate this brings the ability in shared vernaculars ti use words as paint, threads of woven tapestries of of things that could be and here comes the catch,"if only" others would believe what should be done in the name of compassion, hope, faith, and charity trying to prove now isn't this moment forever here.

How would your thinking change should you understand nothing of substance leaves this moment as conceived into it other than the balacing perpetual moving stablized molecular eelements making the shape and form of the ttotal sum to everything functioning now? No tomorrows, not next hour, never was a real yesterday.

How would you change your speech patterns? Civility is a must for a whole population of lifetimes being a sole bridge between themselves their own two parents and their children's four grand parents which works the same way in every generation of every species born male and female sole existences here.

To use words to prevent others from having an equal opportunity to survive as a whole result so far balancing with everything else going on, learning to understand why and how it forever takes place in this ever changing moment.

If can always expand possibilities but without totally comprehending the contracting results that expand details exactly as balancing out here, not knowing the outend limits is self destructive.

The past is absolute, the present is working absolutely as the past results compound into the details arriving here, but what comes next is pure speculation without knowing the details going on and no one lifetime can possibly know every details instantly taking place now.

So here we are with freedom of speech and what do words mean that come to be libel, malign, treason, blasphemy. What justifies social identity taking precedence over being an acestral result? What constitutes character's rights as a collective notion over making laws that demand each gender adopt a trademark social tag and if they challenge such laws they are socially branded as being psychologically unbalanced for not wanting to serve humanity's greater good intentions?

What do literal characters have rights protected by law and ancestors without trademark tribes of social justification get band from having any rights of society andthe fuedal system of governments within collective ideologies?

To be able top express yourself without malice, or desire to remove anything in place other than discuss the physical self evident means to why and how each generation of humanity is always male and female lifetimes added into ancestry already here and not constant be blamed for everything wrong in reality. to have opportunity taken away for failure to kiss the ring of ideologues setting the stage events in political, spiritual, economic, entertainment theaters of psychological word games structured within symbolic values, scientific beliefs, spiritual faiths, sophisticate formulas of rounded off figures for clarity and simplicity of making sure just enough becomes left out all the facts never lead to a whole conclusion.

Freedom of speech is the idea one can speak of self evident physical absolutes and never become an enemy of state of mind reality is ruled with governance in theory and theology with throughout civilization.

No lifetime can physically escape here alive. So what is freedom of speech when one cannot express understanding that absolute. Leaders of society promise peace, as long as everyone agrees with their ideology of what piece means being part of the significant reality. I spent 41 years of my life building my place in everyone else's realities and in the last two years the corrupt have made that reality evaporate with words of law that states I didn't do enough so I therefore loose everything I earned.

How do I save what was never there for real? How do I rescue everyone else's faith in believing time changes everything in reality but nothing within this real moment.
I speak of exponenitals that every reality operates within and told I am not on topic. I can't rescue those saving humanity, and I cannot save those rescued by humanity's greater good intentions because what I speak about is unbelievable because it is so simple.

Have a great day. Good luck to all those that say I spam when only offering a balanced way out of human self extinction without destroying anything real.
 
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Go outside and start organizing a protest for overthrowing the U.S. government. Spend time gathering people to join you.

Eventually, you will be dead.

Eventually, we will all be dead. Go out and organize a protest against a union and be prematurely dead.
 
unless you swear or threaten somebody, you should have freedom of speech..

Nonsense. when your wife asks you if she looks fat tell her the truth. When your boss asks you waht you think of his brilliant idea, tell him the truth. When your neighbor asked your opinion of his taupe and chartreuse paint scheme for his house, tell him the truth.

Free speech means the government will not restrict your speech. Your wife, your boss, your neighbors certainly can.
 
Nonsense. when your wife asks you if she looks fat tell her the truth. When your boss asks you waht you think of his brilliant idea, tell him the truth. When your neighbor asked your opinion of his taupe and chartreuse paint scheme for his house, tell him the truth.

Free speech means the government will not restrict your speech. Your wife, your boss, your neighbors certainly can.

:mrgreen:

you dont have to tell the truth everytime ,if your wife will be hurted by what you say ,you should avoid saying that.and she doesnt want you to tell teh truth,she wants to hear that you still admire her..
 
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