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Problems on college campuses.

Ok. So one of the issues the left seems to be most divided about are these so called "safe spaces" and "speech codes" popping up on college campuses. The argument against such seems to be simple, the first amendment, along with the fact that some safe spaces only allow only spacific "marginalized groups" to participate. (ie if you are either white, male, straight, and so on you can be prevented from such.) Essentially blatant discrimination on race, gender, and sexual orientation.

I haven't heard a solid argument for any of the above. I am interested if anyone on here can make a solid case for any of the below.

Speech codes don't violate the first amendment.

Speech codes don't suppress other political opinions.

Establishing Safe Spaces is a valuable utilization of resources for college campuses.

Discrimination against "non marginalized" groups is not still discrimination.

There are other problems as well, but didn't want this post to be to long.
Thanks!
College age: 18-22.

Why on earth would young adults need "safe spaces"? What the hell are they going to do once they journey into the real world?
 
Things like the NSA, constant monitoring, the absolute defense of authority. FISA and secret courts.
The United States Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC, also called the FISA Court) is a U.S. federal court established and authorized under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (FISA) to oversee requests for surveillance warrants against foreign spies inside the United States by federal law enforcement and intelligence agencies.
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HLS, TSA, etc.

Homeland security and TSA was in response to 9/11 by Bush, and a fairly even congress.

There's nothing reasonable about the Patriot Act, there have been horrible breeches of power that we do nothing about.
Many of the Patriot Act actions have already expired: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act#Section_expirations
Control is a Republocrat thing, it's not limited to left or right.
So by "Republocrat" I take it you mean Democrat, with some Republican involvement?
It was never meant to be Left vs. Right. Rather it should be, it in fact is, Government v. The People.

I agree. I am one of many who state that the Fed. Gov. has gotten too large and too intrusive, and needs to be cut back and reduced in size, scope, and intrusiveness. So on that count we agree.
 
tu is the only part of austin that isnt really "austin"

Saw varsity's horns off, do you? (Had to ask after reading "tu.")
 
Ok. So one of the issues the left seems to be most divided about are these so called "safe spaces" and "speech codes" popping up on college campuses. The argument against such seems to be simple, the first amendment, along with the fact that some safe spaces only allow only spacific "marginalized groups" to participate. (ie if you are either white, male, straight, and so on you can be prevented from such.) Essentially blatant discrimination on race, gender, and sexual orientation.

I haven't heard a solid argument for any of the above. I am interested if anyone on here can make a solid case for any of the below.

Speech codes don't violate the first amendment.

Speech codes don't suppress other political opinions.

Establishing Safe Spaces is a valuable utilization of resources for college campuses.

Discrimination against "non marginalized" groups is not still discrimination.

There are other problems as well, but didn't want this post to be to long.
Thanks!



Well, the First Amendment would not apply at all to a private university's rules, or to what the rules of a private group has even if that group attends a public university. It's hard to be more specific without specific examples, but basically, the First Amendment likely simply doesn't apply.

It's not a general right to unimpeded speech. It's a right against government actions based on the content of speech; lesser restrictions apply to government actions regarding the time and place of speech.
 
Well, the First Amendment would not apply at all to a private university's rules, or to what the rules of a private group has even if that group attends a public university. It's hard to be more specific without specific examples, but basically, the First Amendment likely simply doesn't apply.

It's not a general right to unimpeded speech. It's a right against government actions based on the content of speech; lesser restrictions apply to government actions regarding the time and place of speech.
I should have been more spacific. The universities trying to enact the most strict speech codes are public ones in California. As they are public, this is unconstitutional. Private groups within public universities could not institute campus wide speech codes.
 
I have a feeling i'm gonna really hate college because of stuff like this. I'm personally open to any form of discussion and debate, but all these 'speech codes' and 'safe spaces' are just there to shoot that all down, so everyone's feelings can be coddled to and no one can be offended.
Ah, non-liberal, non-establishment feelings are not coddled. We're talking about brainwashing, here, folks.
 
Ah, non-liberal establishment feelings are not coddled. We're talking about brainwashing, here, folks.
I think it's more along the lines of trying to establish a culture of professional victimhood.
 
I think it's more along the lines of trying to establish a culture of professional victimhood.
And a political agenda is definitely pushed in college.
 
l've watched those "Modern Educashyun" videos before! [emoji12]

Not only they hilarious, it's also a great example of what these regressives are trying to turn to college environment into.
They are so quotable as well. My favorite one is probably "We don't ask questions, questions are offensive."
 
They are so quotable as well. My favorite one is probably "We don't ask questions, questions are offensive."
Oh yeah, was that the white kid that said that line? I can't remember.

But I personally enjoyed the girl the most. She really played the part of a SJW quite well, IMO.

I liked the entire concept of how the Asian Kid in the class got the highest grade simply because he was gay and trans, but all it was was a piece of paper that was colored on. And the fact that they got points deducted for being white or male. And I also did love the twist at the end with the box in the room to. That's probably the most notable quote to me in that video: "Ignore that, it will end."
 
Oh yeah, was that the white kid that said that?

But I personally enjoyed the girl the most. She really played the part of a SJW quite well, IMO.

I liked the entire concept of how the Asian Kid in the class got the highest grade simply because he was gay and trans, but all it was was a piece of paper that was colored on. And I did love the twist at the end with the box in the room to. That's probably the most notable quote to me in that video: "Ignore that, it will end."
That quote was by the white girl. And she did do a great job.

Other good quotes include "you think your so great with your maths and your sciences and your facts, but what about feelings?" "Feelings are more important than facts!" "Stop violating me with your different opinions!"

This is probably my favorite YouTube video of all time.
 
That quote was by the white girl. And she did do a great job.

Other good quotes include "you think your so great with your maths and your sciences and your facts, but what about feelings?" "Feelings are more important than facts!" "Stop violating me with your different opinions!"

This is probably my favorite YouTube video of all time.
It's one of mine too. Because at first glance I thought it was going to be another stupid pro-Feminist/SJW type video, but thankfully and much to my relief, that was not the case.
 
colleges are supposed to prepare young people for the work force, instead they prepare young people for the soup line.

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colleges are supposed to prepare young people for the work force, instead they prepare young people for the soup line.

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Or just conditions them to be professional victims and to bitch and moan while screaming "Oppression!" when something doesn't go exactly their way.
 
colleges are supposed to prepare young people for the work force, instead they prepare young people for the soup line.

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Couldn't agree with you more. Unfortunately personal responsibility is something virtually unlearned on college campus.
 
colleges are supposed to prepare young people for the work force, instead they prepare young people for the soup line.

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This is what always bugged me about these complaints.

How do you major in discrete subjects in literature as an undergraduate? From what I recall it should be English.
 
This is what always bugged me about these complaints.

How do you major in discrete subjects in literature as an undergraduate?
Major in literature, focus in discrete subject? It is a meme, so there could be some factual errors. But Medieval literature is not really less useful than medieval studies or literature majors.
 
Rich kid problems. Or, has anyone noticed the rising cost of tuition?

Meanwhile, the middle and lower class kids are trying to stay alive in the ME.
 
One of my favorite quotes this year (forget the origin):

SJW Definition of college: "A Cesspool of Racism, Machismo, Rape and violence that everyone should be able to attend for free"
 
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