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Vegetables Will Replace Meat by 2020—And Millennials Are Driving the Shift

Militant_Vegan_ said:
it's under the "self help" section.

that means we're trying to make people healthier, something people in the US and western countries have a big problem with.

If the topic doesn't interest you, move on
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This is a debate forum.

If you can't debate, then it is time to move on.
 
SMTA said:
This is a debate forum.

If you can't debate, then it is time to move on.
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no, i'll continue to post my threads and report the people who try to ruin them.
 
zyzygy said:
I wonder who "we" are?
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It is very childish.

Nothing goes unchallenged here, which is as it should be.

Last time I checked, this is not Nazi Germany, and all opinions count.
 
SMTA said:
It is very childish.

Nothing goes unchallenged here, which is as it should be.

Last time I checked, this is not Nazi Germany, and all opinions count.
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I challenged the veracity of the biased OP and I was called a saboteur. He can't debate. Now let us get back to the recipes and discussing food and restaurants. That is this forum's raison d'être.
 
zyzygy said:
I challenged the veracity of the biased OP and I was called a saboteur. He can't debate. Now let us get back to the recipes and discussing food and restaurants. That is this forum's raison d'être.
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Exactly correct you are.

FWIW, ridiculous statements should be challenged - it weeds out the Bull****.
 
SMTA said:
Exactly correct you are.
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eating healthier is self help. If you can't figure that out, you should stick to the funny pages.

The good news is that healthier eating is not going away anytime soon. Plant based diets are getting more popular and so is vegan eating.
 
Militant_Vegan_ said:
it's under the "self help" section.

that means we're trying to make people healthier, something people in the US and western countries have a big problem with.

If the topic doesn't interest you, move on
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Stop telling people what they can and can't post. If YOU don't like it you should avoid this forum perhaps. You get butt hurt quite easily here.
 
Back on topic. I doubt if any member of this forum believes that vegetables will replace meat in the USA in four year's time. The opening paragraph of the link in the OP is nonsense.

"Throughout the history of the American dinner plate, meat held pride of place—a hunk of beef resting next to a pile of starch, with a few tepid vegetables perhaps thrown in for a dash of color and virtue."

An insult to all American cooks over the centuries who prepared tasty potatoes and vegetables. Not forgetting that the American dinner plate was often a pasta or other ethnic dish.
 
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I hope no one commits suicide when this doesn't materialize.

Or at least that they use a lead-free bullet.
 
zyzygy said:
Back on topic. I doubt if any member of this forum believes that vegetables will replace meat in the USA in four year's time. The opening paragraph of the link in the OP is nonsense.

"Throughout the history of the American dinner plate, meat held pride of place—a hunk of beef resting next to a pile of starch, with a few tepid vegetables perhaps thrown in for a dash of color and virtue."

An insult to all American cooks over the centuries who prepared tasty potatoes and vegetables. Not forgetting that the American dinner plate was often a pasta or other ethnic dish.
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4 years? Never, ever happen.

Anyone who believes otherwise is a fool.
 
zyzygy said:
I won't bother about posting links but there are plenty of reports on the net about meat consumption rising worldwide. There is no chance of vegetables replacing meat by 2020.
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if we could be better stewards of our meat source I would feel much better about its consumption

I have to pay double the price for my eggs so the hens can have a decent life
 
Tonight we have a special dinner for a few folk at our place. I will be grilling 12 ribeyes and will also have a pasta dish, corn on the cob, and salad. By 2020...I assure you...ribeyes will still have top billing in such a meal.
 
_Sal said:
if we could be better stewards of our meat source I would feel much better about its consumption

I have to pay double the price for my eggs so the hens can have a decent life
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I'm lucky. I have a few friends who keep chickens and I get the eggs free.
 
zyzygy said:
I'm lucky. I have a few friends who keep chickens and I get the eggs free.
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lucky you...I love how the free range egg yolks are golden, almost mango in colour

I had forgotten that until I began to purchase free range

I had also forgotten how super good chicken tastes when it is hormone free and free range...
 
Fledermaus said:
If pointing out the bias of an author quoted in the OP ruins a thread I suggest the thread was ruined at it's inception.
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There's even a link in the article to the author's vegetable selling site. I wonder how much he paid for the ad in the Observer?
 
shrubnose said:
Or to lead people.

It all depends which side you're on.

What some see as propaganda others see as good information.
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No this isn't subjective. You mislead people with propaganda. There is never a time when it isn't used to mislead poeple. That's called the truth.
 
Militant_Vegan_ said:
good news for everyone, people, the planet, animals


Vegetables Will Replace Meat by 2020—And Millennials Are Driving the Shift
Millennials have consistently demonstrated that they care about food, which also means caring about the environment
By Ben McKean • 10/10/16 7:30am
Adam Jaime
The University of Oxford found that giving up or reducing meat intake can reduce your carbon footprint more than giving up cars. Adam Jaime/Unsplash
Throughout the history of the American dinner plate, meat held pride of place—a hunk of beef resting next to a pile of starch, with a few tepid vegetables perhaps thrown in for a dash of color and virtue. Peas, carrots and broccoli were an afterthought—something parents had to admonish and/or bribe their children to consume.

But the balance of power is beginning to shift. Scientific research, seasonal and local food activists, environmental advocates, chefs, and increasingly health-conscious consumers are ushering in an era where vegetables will usurp meat as the star of the dinner plate. By 2020, vegetables will assume top billing in the American diet, leading to a healthier and more sustainable future.

Meat Vs Vegetables

American children are conditioned from a young age to be wary of vegetables. A study published in the Journal of Consumer Research in 2014 found that when preschoolers are told food is “good for you” or will “make you strong,” they infer that the food is less tasty and will consume less of it. In our culture, vegetables have not traditionally been presented as something delicious and fun, and the impact of this mindset is clear.

Only six percent of American adults eat the recommended serving (2 ½ cups) of vegetables per day, according to the Produce for Better Health Foundation. These numbers are even lower among preteens and teens, whose consumption of vegetables is the lowest. Meanwhile, America eats more meat than the rest of the world, with the average person consuming 270.2 pounds a year.

Vegetables Will Replace Meat by 2020—Guess Who Is Driving the Shift | Observer
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These maps show changes in global meat consumption by 2024. Here?s why that matters. | Ensia

not sure where he got his information but it seems to be a bit wrong.

By 2024, these numbers are projected to increase to 94.1 kilograms (207.5 pounds) per person in the U.S. and 35.5 kilograms (78.3 pounds) globally.

so I don't see how it is supposed to decrease if it is going to increase by 4%.
 
CLAX1911 said:
No this isn't subjective. You mislead people with propaganda. There is never a time when it isn't used to mislead poeple.
That's called the truth.
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You wouldn't recognize the truth if an 18 wheeler load of it ran over you,hit its brakes,backed up,and ran over you again.

Wake up and smell the coffee.
 
ludin said:
These maps show changes in global meat consumption by 2024. Here?s why that matters. | Ensia

not sure where he got his information but it seems to be a bit wrong.

By 2024, these numbers are projected to increase to 94.1 kilograms (207.5 pounds) per person in the U.S. and 35.5 kilograms (78.3 pounds) globally.

so I don't see how it is supposed to decrease if it is going to increase by 4%.
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the well educated, wealthy and health minded will continue to eat less meat as a percentage of their diet. the ignorant and obtuse will continue to eat their way into bad health, obesity and disease though bad diets that include too much meat.
 
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