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Do NOT give your dogs and cats MILK[W:44]

Re: Do NOT give your dogs and cats MILK

Thorgasm said:
Yes, I know how to read. Don't give the animals you have lived with most of your life any kind of milk.
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That's why they make Espilac for puppies.
 
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Growing up on my family farm, we had 30+ cats, semi-feral all the time. They got two pans of milk straight from the cow every day (morning and night) for decades and it never killed any of them. :shrug:
 
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Every dog I've owned has gotten milk and had *zero* problems afterward.
 
Do NOT give your dogs and cats MILK

MMC said:
Yeah.....no kidding. :roll: But you might want to pass that along to some of the younger people and as to why and what it does. Since you are here for the time being and Joko isnt'. Might help them out with that type of information. Just sayin!
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.....cause it's for the children.....right.
 
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humbolt said:
I know what you mean. I tried giving one of my dogs milk, but right off the bat he wanted cereal to go with it. This is just one of the problems milk creates.
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Those damn gateway drugs. :roll:
 
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I used to breed puppies and had a Pomeranian puppy that wasn't doing well. My vet told me to give her goat's milk because it was close to mother's milk. :shrug:
 
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Pfffft, next thing you know they'll be saying iced tea and popcorn isn't good for dogs either.
 
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Well, there goes breast feeding, and just when they made it legal to do in public!
 
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EMNofSeattle said:
Milk isn't really that good for humans either....
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Been drinking milk all my life, never broke a bone or had any stomach troubles. My black lab sipped milk every now and again and lived to 14, and the Peek lived to 19.
Explain that.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Been drinking milk all my life, never broke a bone or had any stomach troubles. My black lab sipped milk every now and again and lived to 14, and the Peek lived to 19.
Explain that.
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My dog ate a whole box of chocolate donuts. He's still alive. Everyone should feed their dogs full boxes of chocolate donuts! :roll:
 
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Thorgasm said:
My dog ate a whole box of chocolate donuts. He's still alive. Everyone should feed their dogs full boxes of chocolate donuts! :roll:
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Hyperbole, I never said feed your dog gallons of milk. But my lab ate a box of chicken, box and all and lived another 10 years.
 
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Thorgasm said:
Toxic Foods that you should Avoid Giving Your Dog
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That's more like it. I get a bit tired of the constantly renewed calls for us to save our pets (and ourselves) from yet another poison. My dog has eaten cheese, loves yoghourt and drinks milk occasionally and she's fine. That's my anecdotal evidence. Why should someone else's anecdotes be more truthful?

humbolt said:
Seriously, some breeds of dogs are lactose intolerant.
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Being intolerant of something is not the same as being poisoned by it.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Hyperbole, I never said feed your dog gallons of milk. But my lab ate a box of chicken, box and all and lived another 10 years.
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My dog has eaten tampons and survived. Just because he survived doesn't mean that it's okay to make part of his diet.

Your dog sipped milk. He probably didn't have very much. Not every dog has the same level of lactose intolerance. That is how it is explained.

I'll bet you anything you can't drink a gallon of milk in one hour and keep it down.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Been drinking milk all my life, never broke a bone or had any stomach troubles. My black lab sipped milk every now and again and lived to 14, and the Peek lived to 19.
Explain that.
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Heya Crue. :2wave: Ya sure that can't be considered in the 2 percent of the Homogenized. :lol:
 
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I drink a gallon a week, at least. No one drinks a gallon of anything in an hour.
BTW how was your night at Cold Keg, get everything you were looking for?
 
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Andalublue said:
That's more like it. I get a bit tired of the constantly renewed calls for us to save our pets (and ourselves) from yet another poison. My dog has eaten cheese, loves yoghourt and drinks milk occasionally and she's fine. That's my anecdotal evidence. Why should someone else's anecdotes be more truthful?


Being intolerant of something is not the same as being poisoned by it.
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But some are intolerant enough to die from exposure.
 
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Science to the rescue!

A lot of people are mentioning that their dogs/cats often drink milk with no problem, as do my two schnauzers.

We know by studying who has, what they've dubbed 'lactase persistence', in human populations, that unsurprisingly, groups of humans who had ancestrally raised milk producing livestock have much higher rates of lactose persistence than do the rest of the world. It was made possible in large part because there is only a single gene that controls the ability to digest lactose, so a mutation that would allow mammals to continue producing lactase should theoretically be easy to come by. This explains why some humans can happily consume as much dairy as they want without repercussion, while others become violently ill from a single slice of cheese. The same should apply to other mammals, since all mammals are designed to be able to drink their mother's milk and then have a mechanism to shut off production of lactase once the usefulness of it has basically disappeared.

To the topic at hand, I can't imagine the amount of milk you would have to give to your dog in order to straight up kill it, especially such a large dog, so I would wonder if that was the sole reason for the dog's death.
("Excessive amounts of fatty foods can cause pancreatitis. Miniature and toy poodles, cocker spaniels and miniature schnauzers are especially prone to pancreatitis.
Pancreatitis signs include abdominal pain, acute onset of vomiting, and diarrhea. The pain can show through a hunched posture when you pick up your dog" ---Similar symptoms that may suggest that the actual fat content of the milk could partially be to blame.)

and certainly as many dogs as humans should be able to handle lactose, since it only requires a single base-pair mutation

lactase persistence | Dogs on Icelactase persistence | Dogs on Ice

And this is something I've always thought would be fun to research; We known northern Europeans overwhelmingly can digest lactose as adults because of their historical associations with raising cattle, wouldn't it follow that dogs, something a european cattle herder would most certainly have around, would also feel that selective pressure and would favor dogs that could drink milk? We've already observed it with dogs becoming more adapted to eat the grain products we have left over. I've always wondered if certain breeds of ancestrally northern european dogs would also be more lactose tolerant.
 
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humbolt said:
But some are intolerant enough to die from exposure.
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I don't quite understand the point you're making. If a creature, or a human, dies from exposure to a substance that will be due to toxicity or allergic (i.e. immune response) reaction, not 'intolerance', of which, please correct me if I'm wrong, there is no clear physiological definition.
 
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Andalublue said:
I don't quite understand the point you're making. If a creature, or a human, dies from exposure to a substance that will be due to toxicity or allergic (i.e. immune response) reaction, not 'intolerance', of which, please correct me if I'm wrong, there is no clear physiological definition.
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I'm using intolerance in the physical sense only. No psychological definition is required. For example, cattle and horses are intolerant of wild cherry tree foliage. Their physiology will not accept the presence of certain chemicals in that food. If that intolerance is high enough in some animals, it can be deadly.
 
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