Reverend_Hellh0und

We are all partisan, We are all biasesd.... This is a fact. I won't try to act all holier than thou and tell you to put your core values and your positions aside as this is a debate forum....


It is a collesium where my ideas will triumph over yours and yours if you shall be so fortunate triumph over mine. (if this made you pause then you are right here with me friend) This place is an arena of ideas. A place where "moderate", and "bi-partisanism" gets left by the wayside...


Here my friends is a place where we test our convictions against others to see if they are indeed the "core values" they hope to be....


The very idea that we should stamp out so called "hyper-partisanism" reeks of political correctness of a most moderate ideal... how boring!

Let us instead engage in the best we have to offer. If one claims obama be a muslim then do your best to tear him down, if one declares palin to be an abusive politicisan tear him down. If one declares obama not to be for change tear him down. Take him to task, put forth your ideals your positions, your convictions... ultimatley those with the truth and convictions will win. Reactionary responses of a personal nature simply look like sophomoric whining. I have been guilty of this as we all have been lets rise above!



**** the him could also be a her......

Truth be on your side. stand by it....


Remember we are in an essentialy voluntary agreement. members of this forum... a family of some sorts.... Remember that we while we disagree, agree that we all sought the same thing. we sought political banter..... none of us joined this forum to agree with one another.........


Please watch this video to see the Good Reverend's perspective on this whole matter, forum and it's future.....






My motive is no different than the primary actors here. posters on the opposite such as rxsing, indy, and others would agree, and if honest, hautey, it2002, lerxst and others would admit i have reached out to them, along with boith CC, and zyph,......


This is my position, and my challenge is this....


Bring it. Bring your partisan banter, your views, your positions. and If you can back them up feel pride in doing so as those are your convictions. If however you bring up things to score internet points. troll, bait, and to put forth talking points, realize you are nothing less than fodder to those of us who are willing to be partisan, and open to dicsussion to back our positions up. You will not be taken seriously and the adults will continue to discuss....


So in essence my challenge is thusly stated. Rise above. bitching about "hyper-partisanism" makes you look like a bitch. instead either ignore it or counter act it with facts just don't respond in kind.


That is all.


Remember this is an exercise of love not of hate.


This is my challenge, and I hope you all see my intent for what it is.


Thank you.

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Never forget those who killed them.

American

Hey, you almost lost me when you said you were reaching out to CC and Z. I mean come on! I took them off my Christmas card list already. You know how much trouble that was. Make up you mind, I can't just keep changing the list...

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Reverend_Hellh0und

Hey my beef with them is forum related not personal, Honestly I believe thay are doing damage to the forum but mean best. In all honesty they have in my opinon changed thier tune a little and it has been a boon to the forum. Lets not focus on them though and let's focus on us. WE can make this a better place if we accept what I am saying and lool at so called "hyper-partisanism" and OUR reactions and this latter as the bigger factor to the problem than the instigators. Remember only you can choose to be offended by what I say.

Mentork

I don't mind "hyper-partisanism" but i think that people should not be allowed to post something that is a known lie.

People should not be allowed to post "Obama is a Muslim" or "Palin banned library books".

But i think, seance this is a political forum, that we should be allowed to use curse words and things like "McBama" "Nobama" or "McSame". I find it very disturbing that we are not allowed to use slang, it's not like we're grade scholars.

Also, like a post i just reported, i think it would be fair if we where not allowed to post advertisements, just posting a Obama add should be not allowed.

Also, and perhaps to the reverends great dismay, i think that moderators (with the exception of the basement team of coarse) should be banned from posting or responding to anything in the basement. When moderators get in fights with other users I find it extremely inappropriate.

On a related note, i think the penalty box should be like the debate forums in that we should have the option to only allow certain users to respond, i think it would be a great place for "less then politically correct" debates, and i think it would see allot more usage.

My

American

So no one else has a choice, eh?

Reverend_Hellh0und

I disagree, let those posts stand on thier merits and let them be thusly thrashed as they deserve to be.




interesting idea, expound please.

Mentork

That would get dull really, really fast.


The penalty box currently has two Threads, bassicly, it's just sitting there. I think that it would be the perfect place to have "dirty" fights.

Basically, the "private debates" section is in pretty good condition (it's not a **** hole), but if say bhkad and Mentork want to have a debate about weather or not Obama is a secret Muslim terrorist. Or if Reverend and Captain want to have a debate about how each other are partisan ****s without interruption from others, then I think it would be the place for it.

Mentork

I just thought of a compromise, perhaps the threads in witch the original post states blatant lies could be moved to there own forum.

It could be the "Lying sack of **** forum" It wouldn't even have to be in the basement, Would you find that acceptable?

Reverend_Hellh0und

hey man edit the curses out and let the filter do thier job.... they will ding you....



the basement should be called a circus. pm me for details as i don't want to get involved with 6a violations here.

Mentork

sorry, i forget sometimes.