The Reverend's Challenge - Page 3

Reverend_Hellh0und · 09-17-08, 12:09 AM

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I was giving an example to explain my point, not making an assertion.

ok... well i really was just asking because i have gone into any thread i saw claiming him to be a muslim and forcefully disagreeing with the assertion. i have only seen two threads, that is why i asked....

I am going to take this opportunity to state publically that i am did not post this thread to fight anyone and I appreciate the responses so far. all of them. I think if we all look at what we are doing, take certain things with a grain of salt, we can, as a group make this a better place even with our percieved "nemesises"

do you agree?

Iriemon · 09-17-08, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und

we define partisanship differently then.

Perhaps.

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I am partisan, so are you. we are "apart" from those ideals we fundamentaly disagree with....

do you disagree with this?

I don't feel like making it personal. But I certainly view some as far more partisan than others, as I have defined it.

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futhermore even though i have stated i agree with parts of obama's tax plan for example and defend him against certain posters muslim charge i still get labeled as a "hyper-partisan poster"..... because i disagree with other parts.... tell me is it me and the partisan charge, or is it the "hyper-partisanism" of the other posters that is the issue?

I'm not familiar with that instance. IMO simply agreeing or disagreeing on one issue doesn't show partisanship.

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look this is all irrellevant. i can be as partisan as i want to be. you can defend your position, i can defend mine. if you are to closed minded then i think a natural selection will occur.

this is my position

Free board. I've just offered my thoughts on it.

Iriemon · 09-17-08, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und

no as they would be imo subjective.

Remember ony you can offend you, i can not offend you.

That's just an excuse to be a jerk.

Reverend_Hellh0und · 09-17-08, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Iriemon

Perhaps.

I don't feel like making it personal. But I certainly view some as far more partisan than others, as I have defined it.

I'm not familiar with that instance. IMO simply agreeing or disagreeing on one issue doesn't show partisanship.

Free board. I've just offered my thoughts on it.

This is cool man and you are entitled to your thoughts as i am mine.... there is nothing personal here.

Reverend_Hellh0und · 09-17-08, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Iriemon

That's just an excuse to be a jerk.

and honestly on occasion have we not both been jerks?

has not most posters here at one time or another been jerks?

I fully admit it.

i think we should strive to be better than this and if one of us is not, lets not make that an excuse to lower ourselves to the other....

Iriemon · 09-17-08, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und

I am going to take this opportunity to state publically that i am did not post this thread to fight anyone and I appreciate the responses so far. all of them. I think if we all look at what we are doing, take certain things with a grain of salt, we can, as a group make this a better place even with our percieved "nemesises"

do you agree?

Refraining from refering to political figures or parties in insulting or inflammatory ways, refraning from refering a poster or his argued position in insulting or inflammatory ways would be a good way to start. But I have reservations whether these kind of exercises will have any effect. Can't hurt I suppose.

Iriemon · 09-17-08, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und

and honestly on occasion have we not both been jerks?

has not most posters here at one time or another been jerks?

I fully admit it.

i think we should strive to be better than this and if one of us is not, lets not make that an excuse to lower ourselves to the other....

The statement that "ony you can offend you, i can not offend you" implies that you can say anything you want and if someone is offended by it, that's their problem.

That is an excuse to be a jerk.

Reverend_Hellh0und · 09-17-08, 12:18 AM

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Refraining from refering to political figures or parties in insulting or inflammatory ways,

This i dont think will ever stop and again we should strive to take the high road when we see it. this will minimize it.

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refraning from refering a poster or his argued position in insulting or inflammatory ways would be a good way to start.

100% agree. it serves no purpose to call another poster "dishonest" for stating an opinion, no more than it does starting a thread stating obama is a muslim.

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But I have reservations whether these kind of exercises will have any effect. Can't hurt I suppose.

see this in not an exercise i am putting on others. this is an exercise i am putting on myself and i challenge everyone who cares to follow suit.

Reverend_Hellh0und · 09-17-08, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Iriemon

The statement that "ony you can offend you, i can not offend you" implies that you can say anything you want and if someone is offended by it, that's their problem.

That is an excuse to be a jerk.

nope you misunderstand....

you can call me an asshole.... it is my choice as to wether that offends me or not.

Iriemon · 09-17-08, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und

nope you misunderstand....

you can call me an asshole.... it is my choice as to wether that offends me or not.

So what? Are you claiming because it is up to you as to wether it offends you and I cannot offend you, then it is OK for me to call you an asshole?