Iriemon

There is nothing wrong with being convicted in beliefs on things and defending them.

Partisanship is the opposite of objectivity, and refers to a tendency to refuse to consider conflicting evidence or views, and in politics, often associated with a party. Taking positions that all Democrats are evil or all Republicans are saints or vice versa isn't debate, its partisanship. If one says that a Republican who says the world is flat is a kook but says that a Democrat who says the world is flat is speaking metaphorically, that's not reasoned debate, its partisanship.

Folks certainly have the right to be partisans. But taking positions based simply on the political party at issue, or constantly writing generic "Republicans suck" kind of posts don't really add a lot to the objective of debate, if you believe the idea of the forum is supposed to be debate and not a political pep rally.

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Iriemon

They have been, and conclusively disproved. But continualy writing Obama is a Muslim for example when it is not done to forward an argument that Obama is a Muslim but simply to annoy Obama supporters is not debate, but baiting.

Reverend_Hellh0und

then gig em for baiting. though can you show me where this has happened? i am seriously asking.


anyway if a thread has a claim that he is a muslim and provides a link than either discuss it or ignore it....


simple solution.... really.... trust me....

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Reverend_Hellh0und

we define partisanship differently then.


I am partisan, so are you. we are "apart" from those ideals we fundamentaly disagree with....


do you disagree with this?



futhermore even though i have stated i agree with parts of obama's tax plan for example and defend him against certain posters muslim charge i still get labeled as a "hyper-partisan poster"..... because i disagree with other parts.... tell me is it me and the partisan charge, or is it the "hyper-partisanism" of the other posters that is the issue?


look this is all irrellevant. i can be as partisan as i want to be. you can defend your position, i can defend mine. if you are to closed minded then i think a natural selection will occur.


this is my position

Reverend_Hellh0und

Tell me, when was the last obama is a muslim thread? show me and I will stand side by side with you requesting the mods move it to the bunk (conspiracy) section.


where this and more than half the palin threads belong.... if they don't get moved... meh who cares.... 7 days and they will be off my sub list anyway.....

donc

Insinuations count?

Tucker Case

If anything, I'd consider myself hyper-non-partisan. Honestly, my core views are completely unrepresented by either party, so partisanship is impossible for me. I would say that everyone on the forum has strong points of view, and that they are convictions, but calling them "partisan" isn't necessarily correct.

But I do agree that nobody here has "mild" views on matters. Even the moderates are strongly moderate.

Reverend_Hellh0und

no as they would be imo subjective.


Remember ony you can offend you, i can not offend you.


if someone insinuates barack is a muslim, you have 2 choices, continue with what you are saying or move foward....


I am advocatinng the latter. i think that if we all chose to tak the high ground, the low ground won't have any traction.


this is what i am advocating.....



look you are going to think something i say alludes to obama being a muslim, it may be preemptive or it may be in response to you alluding palin is of porcine nature. it is going to happen.... so what.... there is no need to get offended. either confront the other or move on.... simple really.... this is what i am saying...


furthermore as i indicated in my linked video. we should look to one another like a family of sorts. we sought out political banter, why do we need to go planet of the apes on each other?


we are all humans right? perhaps a little empathy for our fellow man may not hurt.....

Reverend_Hellh0und

so they are hyper-moderates and you are a hyper-partisan who is apart from "partisanism"



nah just teasing.... i am using a different definition of partisanism than you i think.....


do you agree?

Iriemon

I was giving an example to explain my point, not making an assertion. You can substitute any example you want. Saying Bush is an idiot, McCain is senile, etc.