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Muslim served non-Halal food in McDonalds and becomes 'mentally disturbed'!

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A woman got given the wrong burger by mistake and now the sky has to fall in:

Newcastle Muslim woman's burger ordeal - Sunday Sun


Islam forbids the eating of any kind of meat which is not “Halal”, meaning it has been blessed by an imam and slaughtered in special conditions.

She approached the manager, who admitted the mistake, and reluctantly accepted a refund at the restaurant.

However, the Northumbria University student was left dismayed when McDonald’s offered no apology.

The fast food chain has since said sorry.

She said: “It’s the first time in my life I’ve eaten meat which was not Halal. I was shocked and seriously mentally disturbed.
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Islamisation without consultation:
McDonalds is just one of countless outlets
and canteens dishing out halal foods either
as part of the menu or as STANDARD
across them! And all delivered as a
fait-accompli to seemingly
less-worthy non-Muslims.





I could be considered a touch partisan, or maybe inconsiderate of peoples' feelings. After all, this devout Muslim woman would have been frustrated at having her life's vow broken.

However, any sympathy for this 'poor' woman's case is nullified somewhat. Not so much by the thought that McDonalds' finds it apt to seemingly grovel else risk God-knows-what, though more by the idea that some people may be so deranged or self-centred that they have to countenance severe animal cruelty, just to satisfy barbaric stone-age religious whims.

Halal slaughter is the chilling practice of binding an animal, then slitting its throat and leaving it to die whilst conscious. During this sick process, an imam wails, adding to the horror. If anyone's got the concession on being mentally disturbed it should be the rest of us for knowing such barbarism occurs on our soil, with FULL Government approval.

Halal slaughter's like child pornography on that score. If there was trammelled demand for such horrendous cruelty then far less would be provided.


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BNI's take on the shambles, including footage of some lovely halal slaughter courtesy of the Religion of Peace: OMG! Muslim woman eats a ‘non-HALAL’ burger at McDonalds « Bare Naked Islam's Weblog

One more for the list: The Amboy Times: The List of Things That Offend Muslims

The further away the better: Ghazni to become Islamic cultural capital - TheNews.pl :: News from Poland
 
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Republic_Of_Public said:
countenance severe animal cruelty, just to satisfy barbaric stone-age religious whims.[/I]

Halal slaughter's like child pornography on that score. If there was trammelled demand for such horrendous cruelty then far less would be provided.
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http://www.mustaqim.co.uk/halalstudy.htm-It's a German study, EEG reading of an animals brain prior to slaughter by both halal methods and stun bolt.

Because you may get a headache from so many words, I'll give you the important bits.

The investigations had the following results:



a) For slaughter by ritual cut:

1. After the bloodletting cut the EEG initially is the same as the EEG before the cut. There is a high probability that the loss of reaction took place within 4 – 6 seconds for sheep and within 10 seconds for calves.

2. The zero line in the EEG was recorded no later than after 13 seconds for 17 sheep and no later than 23 seconds for 7 calves.

3. Thermal pain stimuli did not cause an increase in activity.

4. After the cut the heart frequency rose for calves within 40 seconds to 240 heart actions per minute and for sheep within 40 seconds to 280 heart actions per minute.



b) For slaughter after captive bolt application:

1. After captive bolt stunning all animals displayed most severe general disturbances (waves of 1-2 Hz) in the EEG, which almost with certainty eliminates a sense of pain.

2. The zero line in the EEG was reached for 4 calves after 28 seconds.

3. For two sheep the cerebral cortex activity only stopped in one half of the brain, whilst it continued in the other in the –region (up to 3.5 Hz) until the bloodletting cut.

4. The bloodletting cut resulted for all animals in a brain activity (e and d waves).

5. Thermal pain stimuli caused an increase in activity in one sheep.

6. The heart frequency rose directly after stunning to values above 300 actions per minute.



In summary the following conclusions are possible:



1. Slaughter after captive bolt stunning



A. Calves

After captive bolt stunning most severe general disturbances (waves of 1-2 Hz) occurred in the EEG, which almost with certainty eliminates a sense of pain.



B. Sheep

Similar disturbances were also seen in sheep, but besides the somewhat higher frequency there are still clearly superimposed waves. For one animal waves could be recorded after pain stimuli until after the 200th second. Apparent cramps were registered for all sheep with the exception of one animal.



2. Slaughter in the form of ritual cut



A. Calves

After the bloodletting cut loss of reaction (loss of consciousness) occurred with high probability within 10 seconds. A clear reaction to the cut could not be detected in any animal. For 7 animals a zero EEG was recorded no later than after 23 seconds. Cramps occurred in the animals regularly only after the brain currents had stopped.



B. Sheep

After the bloodletting cut loss of reaction (loss of consciousness) occurred after 10 seconds the latest. A clear reaction to the cut could not be detected in any animal. The zero line was recorded no later than 14 seconds after the cut. Cramps only occurred after the zero line had been detected and were much shorter than after captive bolt stunning.
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This is the study that the German government cited when allowing religious slaughter.
 
Republic_Of_Public said:
-- I could be considered a touch partisan, or maybe inconsiderate of peoples' feelings. After all, this devout Muslim woman would have been frustrated at having her life's vow broken --
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Your humour is improving RoP, I enjoyed that comment.

Out of interest, did you complain when McDonalds apologised for selling beef flavoured fries to Indians? Or when they apologised for giving away condoms in their Happy Meals and then sent Happy Meal toys to nurses in high school to give to kids during sex education classes? ;)

Let's hope this thread remains light-hearted....
 
Republic_Of_Public said:
A woman got given the wrong burger by mistake and now the sky has to fall in:

Newcastle Muslim woman's burger ordeal - Sunday Sun





I could be considered a touch partisan, or maybe inconsiderate of peoples' feelings. After all, this devout Muslim woman would have been frustrated at having her life's vow broken.

However, any sympathy for this 'poor' woman's case is nullified somewhat. Not so much by the thought that McDonalds' finds it apt to seemingly grovel in apology else risk God-knows-what, though more by the idea that some people may be so deranged or self-centred that they have to countenance severe animal cruelty, just to satisfy barbaric stone-age religious whims.

Halal slaughter's like child pornography on that score. If there was trammelled demand for such horrendous cruelty then far less would be provided.


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BNI's take on the shambles, including some lovely halal slaughter courtesy of the Religion of Peace: OMG! Muslim woman eats a ‘non-HALAL’ burger at McDonalds « Bare Naked Islam's Weblog

One more for the list: The Amboy Times: The List of Things That Offend Muslims

The further away the better: Ghazni to become Islamic cultural capital - TheNews.pl :: News from Poland
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My God! STOP THE PRESSES!
Christians and Jews are not permitted to eat pork either, the idea that Christians can eat non-Kosher is a man-made idea that came about because a particular part of Acts was misinterpretted:

What Does the Bible Say About..Eating Swine?

The link will explain how this has become something which Christians regularly do, but shouldn't. Mo stole all of this type of stuff from the Christians and Jews in an attempt to legitemise his 'religion'.
I myself (since I am both a Jew and a Christian, and I believe that Peter's visioin in Acts has been misnterpretted) have been mistakenly served non-Kosher before.
WHY IS THIS NEWS?
I am quite certain that my Christian and Jewish friends have undergone the mistake of eating of non-Kosher food before, yet we do not get up on our soapbox and INSIST that the person and/or company in any way owes us anything. People make mistakes. If you want to be sure that you are eating that which is 'clean' according to your faith then eat at home.
I think this woman had a good point: She was shocked and mentally disturbed. ANYONE WHO WOULD EXPECT THE WHOLE WORLD TO STOP AND BOW TO HER BECAUSE SHE ATE NON-HALAL IS LIVING IN A FANTASY WORLD.
I can't tell you how many times there has been shellfish ior lobster or swine in a dish that my host served. The last thing in the world I would want to do ii make him feel bad.
I would just chalk it up to the fact that we live in a fallen world (as if the Muslims themselves were not proof enough of THAT) and let it go.
This isn't the first article and/or video I have seen where Muslims scream and curse at a patron because they want a Bacon Cheeseburger. (In other words; the subject being halal).
If these people can't get a handle on living in the west, why did they come here? Seems to me they would be far happier under a sharia-complient government.
...Oh year, I forget.
They came to the West to turn our countries upside down, make outrageous demands that Jews and Christians would NEVRE make, and enforce sharia on the whole world because after all "there is no god but allah and mo was his messenger".
<Rolling Eyes>
When the next administration takes over in America, you better believe that all of that crap is coming toi a HALT. No more "Lawfare" cases from CAIR and The Muslim Brotherhood, because they will be shown the door and thrown out on their collective asses.
Stop major cities with your "Show of force" will you?
We should probably deport the dhimmis right along with the Islamists who promote sharia.
 
julietsm said:
My God! STOP THE PRESSES!
Christians and Jews are not permitted to eat pork either, the idea that Christians can eat non-Kosher is a man-made idea that came about because a particular part of Acts was misinterpretted:

What Does the Bible Say About..Eating Swine?

The link will explain how this has become something which Christians regularly do, but shouldn't. Mo stole all of this type of stuff from the Christians and Jews in an attempt to legitemise his 'religion'.
I myself (since I am both a Jew and a Christian, and I believe that Peter's visioin in Acts has been misnterpretted) have been mistakenly served non-Kosher before.
WHY IS THIS NEWS?
I am quite certain that my Christian and Jewish friends have undergone the mistake of eating of non-Kosher food before, yet we do not get up on our soapbox and INSIST that the person and/or company in any way owes us anything. People make mistakes. If you want to be sure that you are eating that which is 'clean' according to your faith then eat at home.
I think this woman had a good point: She was shocked and mentally disturbed. ANYONE WHO WOULD EXPECT THE WHOLE WORLD TO STOP AND BOW TO HER BECAUSE SHE ATE NON-HALAL IS LIVING IN A FANTASY WORLD.
I can't tell you how many times there has been shellfish ior lobster or swine in a dish that my host served. The last thing in the world I would want to do ii make him feel bad.
I would just chalk it up to the fact that we live in a fallen world (as if the Muslims themselves were not proof enough of THAT) and let it go.
This isn't the first article and/or video I have seen where Muslims scream and curse at a patron because they want a Bacon Cheeseburger. (In other words; the subject being halal).
If these people can't get a handle on living in the west, why did they come here? Seems to me they would be far happier under a sharia-complient government.
...Oh year, I forget.
They came to the West to turn our countries upside down, make outrageous demands that Jews and Christians would NEVRE make, and enforce sharia on the whole world because after all "there is no god but allah and mo was his messenger".
<Rolling Eyes>
When the next administration takes over in America, you better believe that all of that crap is coming toi a HALT. No more "Lawfare" cases from CAIR and The Muslim Brotherhood, because they will be shown the door and thrown out on their collective asses.
Stop major cities with your "Show of force" will you?
We should probably deport the dhimmis right along with the Islamists who promote sharia.
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nice rant. seems you've taken this much farther than the women who ate the chicken, and WAY overstated her reaction. why would that be?
 
This is the study that the German government cited when allowing religious slaughter.
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Animals seen in the films don't half experience extended periods of distress, alarm and pain when slaughtered by the halal method. And any arguments that regulations on animal consciousness could be stricter here in Europe can be countered. That's not just by saying that not everybody reckons that halal's still a-ok. In many places the compromise requirements for stunning are IGNORED.


But also that the principle behind halal is still a needless medieaval, superstitous and wanton savagery. And considering Muhammad himself was supposed to have exhorted his followers after him to embrace new sciences, there is absolutely no reason at all to continue such a practice whatever the guise.

Though to be a realist, it won't suddenly cease everywhere just because I start venting. But a ban in Britain (with taxed foreign imports as a compromise) could be the way things would end up if I was in charge.


End 'cruel' religious slaughter, say scientists - Home News, UK - The Independent

Halal meat served in schools, hospitals and pubs: Vets say Islamic slaughter is cruel | Mail Online
 
Out of interest, did you complain when McDonalds apologised for selling beef flavoured fries to Indians? Or when they apologised for giving away condoms in their Happy Meals and then sent Happy Meal toys to nurses in high school to give to kids during sex education classes?
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I didn't know about those but I couldn't have. Though, for me, the Hindu thing isn't quite the same. Inescapable animal cruelty in their culture yes, but at least we don't have to have any of it here. Nor would it be demanded, amongst a raft of other things, by religious militants ordained in their supremacism by their faith.

BBC NEWS | World | South Asia | Revulsion over Nepal animal slaughter


Still, with the condom issue, I can't help thinking that if kids are going to get given contraceptives then it'd best happen in McDonalds. Considering the state of fast food nowadays, nobody may even have noticed had parents not made a fuss.


Kids of all ages....?! Satire and parody indeed as contraceptives are in fact dished out to kids at school:
CAP News | McDonald's Apologizes For Condoms In Happy Meals | Satire & Parody
 
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And this is important to anyone how?
 
Republic_Of_Public said:
Halal slaughter is the chilling practice of binding an animal, then slitting its throat and leaving it to die whilst conscious. During this sick process, an imam wails, adding to the horror. If anyone's got the concession on being mentally disturbed it should be the rest of us for knowing such barbarism occurs on our soil, with FULL Government approval
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I'm not Muslim, but I feel I have to take exception to the description you used for the ritual slaughtering of animals for food above. Your first statement above about the conciousness of the animal is simply incorrect, according to most sites I found with a quick GOOGLE search. And the descriptors you used seem drastically unfair to me.

Dhabiha (Arabic: ذبيحة‎), is the prescribed method of ritual slaughter of all animals excluding fish and most sea life per Islamic law. This method of slaughtering animals consists of a swift, deep transverse incision with a sharp knife across the neck, cutting through the windpipe, the food pipe, the vagus nerve, jugular veins, and carotid arteries of both sides, but leaving the spinal cord intact. This method of slaughter opens the circulatory system, which is at high pressure, to the air, causing pressure to equalize and the blood pressure in the brain to fall to zero.

As the brain requires a constant flow of blood under pressure for the animal to retain consciousness, anemia of the brain causes loss of awareness and perception.
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Based on the description above of the proper method, unconsciousness would be within seconds... death following shortly thereafter.

This is essentially how most animals have been slaughtered since the dawn of recorded time. Only in the modern age have we had the technology for literally instant slaughter of animals for food. Were your ancestors barbaric, simply because they lacked modern methods of killing their cattle?

As for your categorization of the imam 'wailing, adding to the horror', that isn't really a fair assessment of what happens either. The imam prays to Allah during the ritual.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion of the practice.

Do you eat meat?
 
Your first statement above about the conciousness of the animal is simply incorrect, according to most sites I found with a quick GOOGLE search.
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Then I suggest you Google again.

Let's watch a short film to settle the matter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQOKQ__3vQw


BBC NEWS | UK | Halal and Kosher slaughter 'must end'



After scientific proof of pain, should we ban Islamic and Jewish slaughter? | News & Politics | News & Comment | The First Post

UK law requires that all livestock be stunned prior to slaughter – with the exception of those animals intended for consumption by members of certain religions. Islamic halal and Jewish kashrut law require that animals are slaughtered by having their throat cut – a relatively slow means of death. The Sikh ritual – chatka – is much quicker when done correctly, involving a clean sword strike to the neck.

Practitioners of ritual slaughter say the animal must be alive to facilitate the draining of blood – and that throat slitting is humane.
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This is essentially how most animals have been slaughtered since the dawn of recorded time.
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So OBVIOUSLY we still have to do things the old way now?! I don't mind nostalgia for railway engines or video games but you have to draw the line somewhere!
 
Republic_Of_Public said:
Then I suggest you Google again.

Let's watch a short film to settle the matter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQOKQ__3vQw


BBC NEWS | UK | Halal and Kosher slaughter 'must end'



After scientific proof of pain, should we ban Islamic and Jewish slaughter? | News & Politics | News & Comment | The First Post
UK law requires that all livestock be stunned prior to slaughter – with the exception of those animals intended for consumption by members of certain religions. Islamic halal and Jewish kashrut law require that animals are slaughtered by having their throat cut – a relatively slow means of death. The Sikh ritual – chatka – is much quicker when done correctly, involving a clean sword strike to the neck.

Practitioners of ritual slaughter say the animal must be alive to facilitate the draining of blood – and that throat slitting is humane.
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This is essentially how most animals have been slaughtered since the dawn of recorded time.
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So OBVIOUSLY we still have to do things the old way now?! I don't mind nostalgia for railway engines or video games but you have to draw the line somewhere!
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Yeah, because I actually said that, right? :rolleyes:

I noticed you whined about this only for Islamic practitioners, and not Jewish ones. Why is that? Seems a little bigoted to me.
 
Seems a little bigoted to me.
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Ah, a little variety. 'Hate' is the usual word slung at me with fever and I expected it again. Still, a change is as good as a rest.


And as for the Jews, they don't demand, riot and otherwise cause a militant fuss and clamour to have their ways festooned on everyone else.



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ISLAMISTS AND DHIMMIS - Working to make Britain more palatable for everyone (except the rest of us!)



http://www.debatepolitics.com/europ...death-camp-and-sharia-stock-exchange-hmm.html

Britain goes halal (...but nobody tells public) | Mail Online

Britain to import army of halal butchers

Halal-only menu for London primary schools sparks row | News | The Christian Institute

IFANCA interviewed in Army Times’ Halal Article « Islamic Food and Nutrition Council of America (IFANCA)

SUBWAY - Eat Fresh | Menu | Halal

Top supermarkets secretly sell halal: Sainsbury's, Tesco, Waitrose, and M&S don't tell us meat is ritually slaughtered | Mail Online




JAIL MUSLIMS:

Help out Muslim inmates! | The Sun |News

BBC News - Prison governor apologises for non-halal food

Muslim Prisoner Gave Vicious Beating to Officer over Halal Meal

Jail chiefs in a stew over halal chickens | The Sun |Home Scotland|Scottish News


Amongst others: Jail loos turned from East | The Sun |News

Muslim inmate gets 'allah' jail dog axed | Belmarsh prison | Chris Langridge | The Sun |News

Muslim prisoners at a top security jail were given £3500 worth of Indian curry to celebrate Eid | UK security | The Sun |News





ISLAMO-HUBRIS TURNS TO DESERVED 'NEMESIS':

UK: KFC forced to ditch Halal-only menus after disappointing sales by HalalFocus | Muslim Community | Muxlim

Domino's Pizza ditches halal-only menu - mirror.co.uk


Eating Halal food? Then you are supporting Islamic terrorism. « Bare Naked Islam's Weblog




Muslim Brotherhood nets halal tax revenues « Money Jihad

Nestle profit up on gains from Halal tax incentives | Halal Journal






And of course you have 'halal mortgages':

Halal Mortgages

How the hell does that work? Probably by cutting the bank manager's throat and shouting 'Allah Akbar'!




...And these are just some examples!


AT LAST, SOME SANITY: http://muxlim.com/blogs/HalalFocus/sweden-christians-support-abolishing-halal-slaughter-ban/
 
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-- Though, for me, the Hindu thing isn't quite the same --
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McDonalds apparently paid out $2million for the beef flavoured fries incident. They've offered an apology to this woman and offered to make a donation to a charity of her choice.

Not quite the same scale, I agree...:roll:
 
But there's also the other side to it. The company had no need to go halal, then when it did there were restarurants who fed everybody halal meat on its menu and then lied about it. And according to its website, its constant whine of 'the company does not have the necessary infrastructure in its supply chain to guarantee the Halal requirements' suggests that only a physical restraint stops them from going whole hog. So to speak.


A bit of pre-emptive pandering to my mind. And considering the beef incident occurred in the USA, you can freely assume that letigacy virtually guaranteed a stupidly high payout until proved otherwise.


Chicken McHalal: An MoS investigation reveals that halal meat IS used in one of McDonald's most popular meals | Mail Online

McDonald’s says it did use halal meat in some fast food | News | The Christian Institute

Halal - What's on the menu? - McDonald's UK

McDonald's to offer Halal burgers | Metro.co.uk , etc.


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GROVELLERS' CASEBOOK:


Last night angry victims' groups said the Prison Service is forced to pander to prisoners' tastes because of the Human Rights Act.

Margaret Watson, of Justice for Victims, said: "We shouldn't care what they get to eat as long as they are locked up."

But a prison service spokesman defended the move. He said: "Halal chicken is approximately the same price as any non-halal chicken."
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http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sco...ail-chiefs-in-a-stew-over-halal-chickens.html


Then what was stopping these PC retards from buying the normal chickens, especially when prison inspectors also told them not to bother with this halal servility?

As usual, animal rights come a lowly second to not offending even lowlife Muslims. And I would say that if any debate comes up over this in future, the money should be spent on food for law-abiding OAPs on the breadline instead.
 
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Republic_Of_Public said:
Ah, a little variety. 'Hate' is the usual word slung at me with fever and I expected it again. Still, a change is as good as a rest.
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I don't generally throw the word hate around where it's not warranted. You're entitled to your opinions, I'm entitled to my opinions of your opinions, and so on and so forth, ad infinitum.

Now, addressing this comment...
And as for the Jews, they don't demand, riot and otherwise cause a militant fuss and clamour to have their ways festooned on everyone else.
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Are you saying that the same basic slaughtering method, used by both Jews and Muslims, is ok and not barbaric ONLY for the Jews, and ONLY because they don't whine fuss and complain when they don't get their way? THAT... seems a bit bigoted.
 
Are you saying that the same basic slaughtering method, used by both Jews and Muslims, is ok and not barbaric ONLY for the Jews, and ONLY because they don't whine fuss and complain when they don't get their way?
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No. I abhor the practice regardless of on whose behalf. But you also never saw KFC, Subway, Sainsburys, the Government, et al, previously fall over themselves to dish up these cruel meats to all and everyone including the target group. And with that the problem has been greatly magnified.

And anyone'd be a fool to think that the bombs, demands, riots, pushiness and downright self-important pomposity of people like the appalling woman of the OP had no influence on this development whatever!
 
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But there's also the other side to it. The company had no need to go halal, --snip-- considering the beef incident occurred in the USA --
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You know the difference between my "explaining" and any "apologia" I hope? The way I see it is similar to when the black community in America flexed its muscle and demanded that some of the big corporations like Nike do more for the black community there or they would buy elsewhere.

I personally don't see McDonalds selling Halal meat as pandering to islamism- more simply, I think it's just business dealings. Anyhow, I refuse to eat McDonalds type food if I can help it so I have no real care - if you shop cheaply for food you get cheap quality food so she doesn't really have my sympathy.
 
How fragile do you think your country and culture are Republic that you think they'll be overturned by a McDonalds, and not the one in your story, orders meat which is prepared a certain way?
 
You'll have to forgive my force sometimes Infinite. I think sometimes I mix it up for flair.

I can't say I remember what the Nike thing was about but I do remember it caused a stir for one reason or another. (Though I'm not sure what there is to get worked up about with tracksuits and trainers). And when I Googled 'Nike black community' all I found of any note was this, which is still confusing:

Black People, Are We Full of Ourselves? in General Forum



Anyhow, I do see it as more than opening to an extra market. Not least because because so many chains plan (or planned) to feed everyone with it without telling us and that there are animal issues there too. We had the big hoo-ha over battery farms and the like and things changed. But on this we're going backwards I think.


if you shop cheaply for food you get cheap quality food so she doesn't really have my sympathy.
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Let's close on that agreement.
 
...meat which is prepared a certain way?
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Dennis Nilsen arraigned corpses a certain way too!


And there is a cultural issue at stake, though not in that way. The rest of us, particularly knowing the truth, wouldn't in conscience buy meat simply because it had been consciously drained to death for an Arabic god. So we have to be overwhelmed, misled and lied to, as the links illuminated. Can't even avoid it in jail now.

As we've found, especially since I've been here to rattle on, fundamentalist (and otherwise non-benign) Islam's actually been shoehorned in and incubated by the Multicultural mindset of our leaders.
 
Republic_Of_Public said:
Dennis Nilsen arraigned corpses a certain way too!


And there is a cultural issue at stake, though not in that way. The rest of us, particularly knowing the truth, wouldn't in conscience buy meat simply because it had been consciously drained to death for an Arabic god. So we have to be overwhelmed, misled and lied to, as the links illuminated. Can't even avoid it in jail now.

As we've found, especially since I've been here to rattle on, fundamentalist (and otherwise non-benign) Islam's actually been shoehorned in and incubated by the Multicultural mindset of our leaders.
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See normal people aren't that self-conscious and don't suffer from a crippling self esteem issue that manifests itself as an overcompensating and overinflated ego.

And by "leaders" don't tell me you're still talking about Mcdonalds.
 
You've been reading too many pulp problem pages. And I wouldn't call McDonalds leaders in anything but bad food and heavy-handed sales and legal tactics.
 
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Republic_Of_Public said:
No. I abhor the practice regardless of on whose behalf. But you also never saw KFC, Subway, Sainsburys, the Government, et al, previously fall over themselves to dish up these cruel meats to all and everyone including the target group. And with that the problem has been greatly magnified.

And anyone'd be a fool to think that the bombs, demands, riots, pushiness and downright self-important pomposity of people like the appalling woman of the OP had no influence on this development whatever!
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I don't know about that other stuff, and that wasn't where I was trying to comment. I ws concentrating on why you seem to know that the Jewish methods are very similar, yet you kind of avoided making that corollary in any of your posts until I prompted you.

Just seemed like a double standard is all.
 
Republic_Of_Public said:
You'll have to forgive my force sometimes Infinite. I think sometimes I mix it up for flair.
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I'll give you that, you certainly have a flair.

Republic_Of_Public said:
I can't say I remember what the Nike thing was about but I do remember it caused a stir for one reason or another. (Though I'm not sure what there is to get worked up about with tracksuits and trainers). And when I Googled 'Nike black community' all I found of any note was this, which is still confusing:

Black People, Are We Full of Ourselves? in General Forum
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Try this - African American community leaders recognised the strength of buying power and threatened boycotts.

Republic_Of_Public said:
-- Let's close on that agreement.
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No problem.
 
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