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Muslim served non-Halal food in McDonalds and becomes 'mentally disturbed'!

Nothing I've read so far indicates that kosher/halal slaughtering methods are any worse than any other method. From what I understand, if done correctly, the animal has no time to feel pain at all.

As for the woman in the OP, she was understandably upset and McDonalds should have apologized right away. I think religious dietary laws are very silly, but they're obviously important to some people. I've actually witnessed Jewish Orthodox people who were willing to go without food for almost 24 hours when stranded at Geneva Airport, because they didn't know where to get kosher food. I ended up calling the nearest Synagogue so they could ask the Rabbi about it.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
You know the difference between my "explaining" and any "apologia" I hope? The way I see it is similar to when the black community in America flexed its muscle and demanded that some of the big corporations like Nike do more for the black community there or they would buy elsewhere.

I personally don't see McDonalds selling Halal meat as pandering to islamism- more simply, I think it's just business dealings. Anyhow, I refuse to eat McDonalds type food if I can help it so I have no real care - if you shop cheaply for food you get cheap quality food so she doesn't really have my sympathy.
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So, shock headline! Private business advertises that it uses certain meat products in order to sell more of its own products to a market segment and screws up. Said member of market segment who believes in a particular mythology is scarred by the ordeal. Can't help thinking that both sides got what they deserved in this example.

More broadly, the science on slaughter cruelty is far more interesting.
 
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Infinite Chaos said:
You know the difference between my "explaining" and any "apologia" I hope? The way I see it is similar to when the black community in America flexed its muscle and demanded that some of the big corporations like Nike do more for the black community there or they would buy elsewhere.

I personally don't see McDonalds selling Halal meat as pandering to islamism- more simply, I think it's just business dealings. Anyhow, I refuse to eat McDonalds type food if I can help it so I have no real care - if you shop cheaply for food you get cheap quality food so she doesn't really have my sympathy.
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The only thing I eat at McDonald's are the Yogurt Parfaits, but am not going to be plunking down my hard-earned at restaurants that lie about their practises, either.
I agree with you on this one, because truly most fast-food joints are plain purveyors of crap. We have a Cuban fast-food chain in my city that has the most delicious and REAL food and that's about the only place I would ever eat at.
...I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that they would never serve halal anyway, so again this really doesn't affect me.
Nevertheless, I am against serving halal and not informing the customers. I would boycott any restaurant which did this. DISGUSTING.
I rarely eat met, but if it was halal I would probably choke on it.
UGH.
Animals who have been tortured (and halal practices make certain the animal dies a slow death) would probably taste a whole lot different due to the adrenaline and other chemicals released in their bodies due to the slow torture.
Again I say: UGH.
 
Studies show that halal slaughtering is quicker and more painless than other methods, there's a study I posted on the first page that proves this.
 
spud_meister said:
Studies show that halal slaughtering is quicker and more painless than other methods, there's a study I posted on the first page that proves this.
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Who cares? Teh Mozlemz are monsters who torture animals, rape our daughters and kill the rest of us. I thought everyone knew this.
 
Studies show that halal slaughtering is quicker and more painless than other methods
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Videos and other evidence contradict this. As also posted earlier in the debate.



Who cares?
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People who value the truth usually.
 
Republic_Of_Public said:
Videos and other evidence contradict this. As also posted earlier in the debate.





People who value the truth usually.
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There's evidence for all sorts of things. I usually look at both sides of an argument before I make up my mind. On this one, the evidence for your side is inconclusive. Kosher/Halal slaughter, if done correctly, is as good a method as any to kill what you're gonna eat. :shrug:
 
On this one, the evidence for your side is inconclusive.
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I'll just have to take your word for that.



(The Bach's Organ Concerto I had playing in the background added to the chill.)



Kosher/Halal slaughter, if done correctly, is as good a method as any to kill what you're gonna eat.
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Now that inconclusive statement's open to all sorts of interpretation. One of which being that superior Western methods of animal handling need to be imposed on barbaric Islamic butchers if any kind of civilisation can advance.
 
Republic_Of_Public said:
I'll just have to take your word for that.



(The Bach's Organ Concerto I had playing in the background added to the chill.)





Now that inconclusive statement's open to all sorts of interpretation. One of which being that superior Western methods of animal handling need to be imposed on barbaric Islamic butchers if any kind of civilisation can advance.
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See here's the problem with all of this RoP.

This has absolutely nothing to do with the animal. You don't give a flying toss about how the animals died... in western society, we condemn more animals to death then any other society on earth. I'm not saying it's any better or worse BUT FOR YOU my friend, this is just another thing you're trying to throw at muslims. Nothing to do with the welfare of the animal...

However you never know... even Hitler was a vegetarian who deplored hunting...
 
Republic_Of_Public said:
I'll just have to take your word for that.



(The Bach's Organ Concerto I had playing in the background added to the chill.)





Now that inconclusive statement's open to all sorts of interpretation. One of which being that superior Western methods of animal handling need to be imposed on barbaric Islamic butchers if any kind of civilisation can advance.
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I'll start taking you seriously when you include the barbaric Jewish butchers in your tirades.

Also, Vivaldi is much better for the old blood pressure.
 
Arcana XV said:
I'll start taking you seriously when you include the barbaric Jewish butchers in your tirades.

Also, Vivaldi is much better for the old blood pressure.
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Lets not forget markets in Asia, where they kill the animal on the spot, ritual sacrifice in Hinduism... and so on and so forth...

But of course Arcana, this has all to do with the welfare of the animal as we can clearly see :roll:
 
Mickey Ds should kept their mouth shut and she never would've known the difference. it tastes the same, looks the same, everything is the same except in one case you have some "holy" man yodelling while the animal is slaughtered.

does the halal ritual somehow transform the meat into some kind of holy state? WTF? meat is meat. eat it or STFU. I find the whole thing ridiculous. It is similar to India where you have people starving to death in a country full of cows because their "religion" won't allow them to eat them.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Lets not forget markets in Asia, where they kill the animal on the spot, ritual sacrifice in Hinduism... and so on and so forth...

But of course Arcana, this has all to do with the welfare of the animal as we can clearly see :roll:
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how about China? where they throw live cats into pots of boiling water?
 
Jetboogieman said:
Lets not forget markets in Asia, where they kill the animal on the spot, ritual sacrifice in Hinduism... and so on and so forth...

But of course Arcana, this has all to do with the welfare of the animal as we can clearly see :roll:
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We don't even need to look that far. Take a look at the methods used in France to produce their beloved "foie gras".
 
I'll start taking you seriously when you include the barbaric Jewish butchers in your tirades.
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But of course Arcana, this has all to do with the welfare of the animal as we can clearly see
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I mentioned in the past that kosher is just as out of order as halal. And I also mentioned on this very topic that the Hindus aren't all that great when it comes to ritual slaughter either.



Take a look at the methods used in France to produce their beloved "foie gras".
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Thank God I don't have to think I'll go to hell if I don't eat it. That must save me years of tantrums.
 
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A look through the archive suggests that girl should have gone to KFC:

KFC diner told 'you can't have bacon in your burger here - we're now halal!' | Mail Online

She'd've been alright there. And with that other news story about the halal KFC worker going ape when a customer asked for bacon, more than likeminded company would have clearly been found. And in far-away Sydney, which would have been another bonus.

KFC Muslim Employee Screams Insults At Customer Asking For Bacon // Current


Muslims refuse to eat pork because it's dirty, not least because the Koran says that Allah turned the hated Jews into pigs. With a religion like that brainwashed into me, I could be capable of irrational and warped mentalities if I were an Islamist too.


See the hilarious yet also unsettling footage here: (LANGUAGE WARNING!)




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ISLAMIC LESSON OF THE DAY:

"Support your Muslim brother, whether he's an oppressor or is being oppressed…" (Saheeh Al-Bukhaari, Book #43, Hadith #623)
 
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So just to summarise; if you don't like what KFC and McDonalds are doing, then don't buy food there.

Simples.
 
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