Thread: Sky News Debate

Anyone watch the Sky News Debate? I think these debates are good. You do begin to get an idea on what is going on.

Tonight I thought Gordon Brown appeared more mature, which of course he is age and experience wise, Nick Clegg I think is not ready, and Cameron definitely has the usual Tory things I do not like....though there is not an enormous enormous amount between them.

I am still happy with the idea of a hung Parliament. I think Labour and the Liberals will work well together. What does anyone else think?

Hope I don't miss the next one - that is the Scottish ones so if anyone hears they are on, please put a note up.

Haven't watched yet, but found this 2nd debate on reliable c-span more easily than on Sky.

British Election Leaders' Debate - C-SPAN Video Library

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The Liberals tend to err on the side of the largest party.

Originally Posted by Republic_Of_Public

The Liberals tend to err on the side of the largest party.

Do a check on the 1974 General Election. I think you will find this is not the case.

This century's more important to me:

Liberal Conspiracy Do Conservatives have the upper hand over Libdems?



They don't know what they want anyway: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...don-Brown.html

In Tory areas they speak like Labour and vice-versa, similar to how Baroness Warsi acts like a dripping wet fish to us and a staunch moral conservative to her fellow Muslims.

Originally Posted by Republic_Of_Public

This century's more important to me:

If you are going to say the Liberals go with the side with the biggest party when I am talking about a hung Parliament, then I suggest you look at what they did last time there was a hung Parliament, otherwise you are not really saying anything.

Originally Posted by alexa

If you are going to say the Liberals go with the side with the biggest party when I am talking about a hung Parliament, then I suggest you look at what they did last time there was a hung Parliament, otherwise you are not really saying anything.

After which, one may suggest you read up on what happened within the UK during the time that particular mix of Government ruled the UK.

I think it almost entirely pointless to try to predict what the Lib Dems might do, should neither Tories nor Labour command an overall majority on May 7th, by referring to the Lib-Lab pact of the late-Seventies or the Feb-Nov 1974 minority Labour government. In a third of a century since those times much has changed in British politics that makes comparisons pointless. The biggest difference is that back then (1974) the Liberals were holding the balance of power with just 14 seats. This year they will have between 60 and 100. That's a hell of a stronger position from which to bargain.

The controversial decision Clegg will have to make is with whom to negotiate first in the event that the Tories win the most votes, but Labour win the most seats. They may take a period of time in which to negotiate with each simultaneously. It may also happen that the Queen invites the leader of the party with most seats to form a government and they do so as a minority administration until such a time as negotiations are concluded.

Even if they end up as the party with most seats and most votes, if the Tories cannot achieve a working majority they will effectively have lost because I cannot see the Libs agreeing to the Tories' manifesto promises and I can't see the Tories agreeing to electoral reform, which would be the Libs sine qua non for entering into coalition. As things currently stand, I see a Milliband-led Labour and LibDem coalition with a joint majority of around 30-40 seats. Electoral and parliamentary reform will be agreed upon as the dowry.

It's very depressing. Seems those who favour a hung parliament think that the politicians would be forced to come to terms with the Public. However, it would appear that a hung Parliament would drive these sleazy swine even further into their own plots and agenda for holding power.

It's all what they want isn't it - Liberals putting electoral reform on the table, Tories wanting to keep it off, Labour in their own little world as usual. Just Westminster Bubble stuff. The vital issues of the day have either been pre-agreed (like Afghanistan) or take a lowly position on the priority list. This isn't the war - it's absolutely tragic this sort of thing's happening at all.

It can only throw out the message that the Public can go to hell. Never mind who we want to run the place, if an alliance between the two loser parties holds the balance, we'll be back to Labour rule with an even greater bunch of tosspots mucking in. And the Cameronites will have to water down Toryism even more than they have done in the past, just to sop to the PC madpersons in the Lib Dems. We'll have a rudderless government. They've only themselves to blame for this mess, though guess who'll suffer as they'll try to get back to 'normal' with more of the same.

Two cheeks of the same backside, with a ringpiece in the middle. And you can barely slip a toilet paper between them!

Originally Posted by Republic_Of_Public

It's very depressing. Seems those who favour a hung parliament think that the politicians would be forced to come to terms with the Public. However, it would appear that a hung Parliament would drive these sleazy swine even further into their own plots and agenda for holding power.

It's all what they want isn't it - Liberals putting electoral reform on the table, Tories wanting to keep it off, Labour in their own little world as usual. Just Westminster Bubble stuff. The vital issues of the day have either been pre-agreed (like Afghanistan) or take a lowly position on the priority list. This isn't the war - it's absolutely tragic this sort of thing's happening at all.

It can only throw out the message that the Public can go to hell. Never mind who we want to run the place, if an alliance between the two loser parties holds the balance, we'll be back to Labour rule with an even greater bunch of tosspots mucking in. And the Cameronites will have to water down Toryism even more than they have done in the past, just to sop to the PC madpersons in the Lib Dems. We'll have a rudderless government. They've only themselves to blame for this mess, though guess who'll suffer as they'll try to get back to 'normal' with more of the same.

Two cheeks of the same backside, with a ringpiece in the middle. And you can barely slip a toilet paper between them!

Oh Boy! You're hurting, aintcha RoP? Don't worry. You may be screeching in our faces come May 7th, with a Tory majority and the right to give all the tax breaks to all the bankers you love. Don't get too down-hearted 2 weeks before polling, much can change.

If Cameron and the OUP/DUP/UKIP/BNP between them can't summon up a majority, you've got 5 more years of "a pox on all of them" posts to churn out. It could be worse. Worse would be how all those Lib-Lab enthusiasts will be feeling if the vote goes your way. I'll be feeling bad too, just to cheer you up.