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"Immigrants can go home now" - MacShane

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Do wonders never cease? After years of going on about integration, multiculturalism, multiracialism, tolerance, diversity and enrichment, we get this from Labour:

- Rotherham MP Denis MacShane calls for Iraqi asylum seekers to go home

MacShane tells Commons Iraqi asylum seekers should now return: ePolitix.com


If I was to tell an immigrant to go home I'd get arrested for 'racism'! I smell an impending election throwing Labour into turmoil over immigration. Indeed, Gordon Brown himself says he wants the issue scarcely mentioned so as not to damage NuLab's re-election 'chances'.



Sometimes I wonder whether Labour's in touch with reality at all. It dares not drag ethnic criminals or rioters to the airport, yet apparently wants to send innocent people back into warzones of its own making:

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/archive/index.php/t-106383.html

Forcing asylum-seekers to return to Iraq is 'inhumane' - Home News, UK - The Independent

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And what's more, MacShane is actually Polish, real name Denis Matyjaszek. He takes a great interest in his heritage. Well, following his logic, now that Poland now enjoys free and democratic elections too, perhaps he's planning his own homecoming as soon as he loses the next election?!
 
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Republic_Of_Public said:
Do wonders never cease? After years of going on about integration, multiculturalism, multiracialism, tolerance, diversity and enrichment, we get this from Labour:

- Rotherham MP Denis MacShane calls for Iraqi asylum seekers to go home

MacShane tells Commons Iraqi asylum seekers should now return: ePolitix.com

If I was to tell an immigrant to go home I'd get arrested for 'racism'!
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Oh God! Here we go again. Do you actually know the difference between an immigrant and an asylum seeker? One's a permanent arrangement, the other's a temporary one with an assumption of return to their home country once it's safe to do so.

And perhaps you could quote the law under which you can be arrested for 'racism' for saying immigrants should be deported? The BNP say it quite openly, all the time. I'm sure you've said it a number of times online, in the pub, to family, friends and colleagues. When were you last arrested?

Typical RoP straw horse debate.
 
If it's such an illegitimate argument then why bother with it? I get the feeling it's more to do with some kind of rearguard action because I try to keep Labour in my fire quite often.



Never mind me, I doubt the 'asylum seekers' themselves often know the difference. All too many seem at least to arrive under false pretences, with full-on sob story, and be given what they claim:

France to close Calais 'jungle' and stop migrants reaching UK - Telegraph

Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: 20,000 failed asylum seekers stay in Britain every year

40,000 asylum seekers could be given permission to stay in UK under new rules | Mail Online




There are plenty of EU and UK-wide racism laws. I don't go round having a go at people just because of their blood but there's a hell of a lot of institutionalised race paranoia nowadays, with the laws to back it up. (Indeed, if terror laws can be used to proctor homeowners on their rubbish, then anything's possible.)

The EU and Racism

Print Page - Half of UK councils use anti-terror laws to watch people putting out trash

Leftist race paranoia, leading to things like 'affirmative action', etc: http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/65404-lunatics-new-labour-state-4.html#post1058552657

http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/65404-lunatics-new-labour-state-5.html#post1058579963
 
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The UK has one of the lowest asylum numbers in Europe.

As for Immigrants.. just more xenophobia. Immigrants do jobs Brits dont want to do or cant do.
 
MacShane is right.
If we send the Iraqi asylum seekers back we may be able to squeeze in few more Latvians...much more fun:mrgreen:
 
PeteEU said:
Immigrants do jobs Brits dont want to do or cant do.
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Then why don't we all retire and let the immigrants pay our pensions if they're just that good? If we can have second class train carriages then why not a second class workforce?! Thanks PeteEU, great idea!


Such a line has been dealt with elsewhere when talking about a native population increasingly mal-educated, poorly trained and then dumped on the scrapheap in favour of coolie labour: http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/68170-british-jobs-foreign-workers-anti-racist-britain.html

It's that kind of 'lazy/incompetent Brits' attitude which helps the BNP. Even soem Labour people realise you have to instill pride again: http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/65404-lunatics-new-labour-state-2.html#post1058547953

It all starts at school: http://www.debatepolitics.com/europ...rd-absolutely-mr-clarkson.html#post1058581531
 
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PeteEU said:
The UK has one of the lowest asylum numbers in Europe.

As for Immigrants.. just more xenophobia. Immigrants do jobs Brits dont want to do or cant do.
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Republic_Of_Public said:
Then why don't we all retire and let the immigrants pay our pensions if they're just that good? If we can have second class train carriages then why not a second class workforce?! Thanks PeteEU, great idea!


Such a line has been dealt with elsewhere when talking about a native population increasingly mal-educated, poorly trained and then dumped on the scrapheap in favour of coolie labour: http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/68170-british-jobs-foreign-workers-anti-racist-britain.html

It's that kind of 'lazy/incompetent Brits' attitude which helps the BNP.
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This rubbish comes up regularly.
They dont do the jobs Brits cant or will not do, they do them cheaper and without job security.

The East Europeans that work with us are paid by an agency ..minumum rate minus one hours pay per day for transport.
The agencies brochure boasts that they can supply labour for one day or weeks and months with the minimum of notice.
They also can price whole jobs.

the agency workers can be laid off at a moments notice for any reason.

You will find that the people who spout that the immigrants do what Brits will not do not have any knowledge of the situation, some even live hundreds of miles away:roll:
 
angrybeaver said:
This rubbish comes up regularly.
They dont do the jobs Brits cant or will not do, they do them cheaper and without job security.
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Are they breaking the law?

The East Europeans that work with us are paid by an agency ..minumum rate minus one hours pay per day for transport.
The agencies brochure boasts that they can supply labour for one day or weeks and months with the minimum of notice.
They also can price whole jobs.
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And? Not the East Europeans fault the Brits are too lazy. That is what we are talking about. Brits are not willing to do the job for the wage the company is offering. Hence they wont get the job. It is the same all over Europe.

the agency workers can be laid off at a moments notice for any reason.
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And that is some how the East Europeans fault? That is the law lol, blame your politicians and unions, not the immigrants.

You will find that the people who spout that the immigrants do what Brits will not do not have any knowledge of the situation, some even live hundreds of miles away:roll:
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It is the same freaking situation all over Europe and the world. Immigrants are willing, unlike the locals, to do jobs for less.
 
Republic_Of_Public said:
Then why don't we all retire and let the immigrants pay our pensions if they're just that good? If we can have second class train carriages then why not a second class workforce?! Thanks PeteEU, great idea!


Such a line has been dealt with elsewhere when talking about a native population increasingly mal-educated, poorly trained and then dumped on the scrapheap in favour of coolie labour: http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/68170-british-jobs-foreign-workers-anti-racist-britain.html

It's that kind of 'lazy/incompetent Brits' attitude which helps the BNP. Even soem Labour people realise you have to instill pride again: http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/65404-lunatics-new-labour-state-2.html#post1058547953

It all starts at school: http://www.debatepolitics.com/europ...rd-absolutely-mr-clarkson.html#post1058581531
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And this is relevant to my comments how?
 
PeteEU said:
Are they breaking the law?



And? Not the East Europeans fault the Brits are too lazy. That is what we are talking about. Brits are not willing to do the job for the wage the company is offering. Hence they wont get the job. It is the same all over Europe.



And that is some how the East Europeans fault? That is the law lol, blame your politicians and unions, not the immigrants.



It is the same freaking situation all over Europe and the world. Immigrants are willing, unlike the locals, to do jobs for less.
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You seem to be spouting off without reading and understanding my post.
I am not surprised.
Stop typing rubbish and listen to someone who has worked with EU immigrants for years.
You may learn something
Try again and this time use your brain
 
I agree. The situations aren't matched like-for-like.
 
angrybeaver said:
You seem to be spouting off without reading and understanding my post.
I am not surprised.
Stop typing rubbish and listen to someone who has worked with EU immigrants for years.
You may learn something
Try again and this time use your brain
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I understand fully your post. It is the same crap the xenophobic BNP (and other anti-immigrant parties and neo-nazi groups across Europe) have been trying to push as a politically correct way of getting rid of outsiders.

Your own laws make it possible for companies to do what they do. It is not the fault of the immigrants that Brits refuse to work under companies that are fully within their rights to do what they do.

Listen, your complaints are the exact same as they are in Spain, Denmark, Germany.. anywhere where outsiders are willing to come in and do a job for less. And if it was not for those outsiders, the jobs most likely would be exported to a 3rd world country because it is cheaper.. and again, that is because the law allows it.

So again.. dont blame the immigrants for using the laws of your own country to their benefit.

And yes the OP was about asylum seekers not immigrants.... huge difference.
 
PeteEU said:
I understand fully your post. It is the same crap the xenophobic BNP (and other anti-immigrant parties and neo-nazi groups across Europe) have been trying to push as a politically correct way of getting rid of outsiders.

Your own laws make it possible for companies to do what they do. It is not the fault of the immigrants that Brits refuse to work under companies that are fully within their rights to do what they do.

Listen, your complaints are the exact same as they are in Spain, Denmark, Germany.. anywhere where outsiders are willing to come in and do a job for less. And if it was not for those outsiders, the jobs most likely would be exported to a 3rd world country because it is cheaper.. and again, that is because the law allows it.

So again.. dont blame the immigrants for using the laws of your own country to their benefit.

And yes the OP was about asylum seekers not immigrants.... huge difference.
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I have not blamed the immigrants for anything.
Is the pound worth so little Euros now that your pension wont buy your medication,,read it again
 
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