Thread: Moscow metro bombs kill dozens

Two female suicide bombers blew themselves up on the Moscow subway during the morning rush hour today, killing at least 37 people and injuring more than 60, Russian officials said.

Yuri Luzhkov, the mayor of Moscow, told reporters the suicide bombers were believed to have set off their explosives as trains approached Lubyanka and Park Kultury metro stations.

"The first data that the FSB [Federal Security Service] has given us is that there were two female suicide bombers," he told reporters at Park Kultury.

Vladimir Putin, the prime minister, who was on a visit to the Siberian city of Krasnoyarsk, said those responsible for the attacks would be "destroyed".

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Moscow metro bombs kill dozens | World news | guardian.co.uk

They didn't happen to follow a certain 'Religion of Peace' by any chance?


Some on this board claim I like to stir things by banging on and on about this sort of thing, but if it was Muslims responsible then there's plenty of previous.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe...post1058644479 (What is Georgia for Saakashvili?)

Originally Posted by Republic_Of_Public

They didn't happen to follow a certain 'Religion of Peace' by any chance?


Some on this board claim I like to stir things by banging on and on about this sort of thing, but if it was Muslims responsible then there's plenty of previous.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe...post1058644479 (What is Georgia for Saakashvili?)

Should it matter what religion they are?

This is about the war in Chechnya, and that war had at its start no real major jihad overtones what so ever.

But thanks to the actions of Moscow, the rebels became more and more radical and desperate. That kind of happens when whole villages are wiped out with tanks and helicopters, the mass torture of civilians and the organised rape of women by the state. Whatever reaction Moscow is getting now is all their own fault in many ways... and AL Q has seen an opportunity and are exploiting it fully.. with training and money.

and no I do not condone or defend this terror in any ways, but I do also not conveniently forget basis of the conflict and its more and more radicalism approach from both sides.

Seems to have the hallmarks. And with all the troubles the unhappy regionals suffer, the last thing they need are jihadis committing atrocities for their own ends. And if the papers don't tell us who the perpetrators are, and they often don't with things like ethic gang crime, then I'll just have to put 2 and 2 together.

But taking the Islamos out of the loop, I see both sides being resolute and with their own fears if the other side gets its way. I think there's too much friction for there not to be a fire.

Originally Posted by Republic_Of_Public

Seems to have the hallmarks. And with all the troubles the unhappy regionals suffer, the last thing they need are jihadis committing atrocities for their own ends. And if the papers don't tell us who the perpetrators are, and they often don't with things like ethic gang crime, then I'll just have to put 2 and 2 together.

But taking the Islamos out of the loop, I see both sides being resolute and with their own fears if the other side gets its way. I think there's too much friction for there not to be a fire.

Just shows how little you know about the conflict. Chances are these 2 women were "black windows", aka the widows of Chechen freedom fighters. Chances are that they were Muslim. As for being part of a "global jihad".. hardly.

I indeed have to admit that I'm not sufficiently up on the whole Chechnya thing to go into the whole boring minutiae. Have to admit I never was very interested in it.

However, I did pick up on the Islamist trait of resorting to murder and carnage to sort out their troubles. We keep on being told civilised people should be beyond trying to press their will through violence, hence so much outrage over the IRA.

BBC News - Moscow Metro bombing: Why Chechens are suspected

Originally Posted by Republic_Of_Public

However, I did pick up on the Islamist trait of resorting to murder and carnage to sort out their troubles. We keep on being told civilised people should be beyond trying to press their will through violence, hence so much outrage over the IRA.

Stop trying to racistly pin it on Islam when you've already been proven ignorant on the subject matter. This had nothing to do with Islam.

Sad to see innocent people die because a group of women were angry at an oppressive government. Obviously it doesn't excuse what these two women did, but it is still sad. My heart goes out to those families who lost loved ones and to a quick and safe recovery to those that were injured.

May the ones behind those acts be brought to justice.

Originally Posted by Orion

Stop trying to racistly pin it on Islam when you've already been proven ignorant on the subject matter. This had nothing to do with Islam.

Ooooo, Waysist Alert! Scweam-scweam-scweam! Flash the red light! Ring dat bell!

Nothing to do with Islam? Which is probably why the tribal leader is keen to establish an Islamic outpost in the Caucasus and use his human bombs to terrorise the head nation in the Russian Federation. Look at the BBC article.

Don't sound a lot like ignorance to me, but then that word's just another example of doublespeak now.

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(Though 'racistly' isn't exactly a word. Nice of you to invent a special insult to chuck at an opponent!)