Thread: £20 billion in NHS cuts? Will doctors be sacked or the useless?

Darling wants to slash the NHS bill by £20billion.


Do you think there'll be many layoffs in the accident and emergency or maternity wards?

Hospital wards to shut in secret NHS cuts - Telegraph



Do you think there'll be as much (if any) in administration? Or at the Viagra dispensaries, modern art departments or rabidly-PC gay and lesbian outposts of the NHS, to name a few?


Spending on NHS administration doubles | Healthcare Republic

BBC NEWS | UK | Scotland | NHS running costs increase by 30%

NHS pay for staff climbing | The Sun |News

Viagra is prescribed on NHS 1m times - Health News, Health & Families - The Independent

http://www.outlinesurrey.org/cruising.htm

North Staffordshire NHS - Parents Of Lesbian, Gay & Bisexual Children - Stoke-on-Trent City Council

http://www.action4men.org/mainguys.html

Contribution Of Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual And Transgender Doctors To The NHS, Recognised By British Medical Association


(...Or for fat people who have eaten themselves too huge to get through doors, binge drinkers after new livers, underage girls and devoted followers of the liberal society after mountains of contraceptives and STD treatments, 60-a-day smokers clogging up the clinics..........)


Let's see where the Marxist 'Diversity' binge takes us!


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Republic of Public, what choice does the UK have at the moment?

I'm not saying it doesn't have a choice. In another topic I made a few suggestions where cutbacks could be made, and I'm sure our masters with the budget books in front of them have all the real answers too.

But past experience shows that you can't really trust them to make cuts in the right places. Indeed, news stories of doctors and nurses given the boot as admin intakes soar have become a cliche amongst satirists. Jasper Carrott, Yes Minister, it's all been done.

And the latest Labour government seems to have done more than any other to encourage the creation of a huge number of state-sector non jobs, just to help fiddle the figures and have more people to threaten with the dole queue if they don't vote Labour.

Originally Posted by Republic_Of_Public

I'm not saying it doesn't have a choice. In another topic I made a few suggestions where cutbacks could be made, and I'm sure our masters with the budget books in front of them have all the real answers too.

But past experience shows that you can't really trust them to make cuts in the right places. Indeed, news stories of doctors and nurses given the boot as admin costs soar have become a cliche amongst satirists. Jasper Carrott, Yes Minister, it's all been done.

NHS cuts, while sad and regrettable, is the right thing to do.

But such a deep cut wouldn't have been required if we stopped the endless immigrants taking the piss out of the system.

Indeed, immigration on a breathtaking scale has a massive impact on all sorts of things. But here's just some of its impact on the NHS and general health issues:

BBC NEWS | Health | NHS 'not ready for immigration'

Rise of drug-resistant tuberculosis in the UK 'is linked to immigration' | Mail Online

BBC NEWS | Health | Immigrant pregnancies stretch NHS

BBC NEWS | Health | Migration 'fuelling Hepatitis B'

Aidsmap | Non UK-born migrants are 'largely hidden' from NHS and have high burden of HIV, TB and malaria



And STILL we're supposed to believe that only a huge influx of demography-changing foreigners can save us now! Only bringing up, training and paying our own people right can save us now, as well as the Third World and Far East who we wouldn't have to shamefully raid for their best people.

Immigration rules blamed for starving hospitals of staff say NHS | Immigration Matters




The demands on the system imposed by health tourists also takes its toll.

Even as far back as 2003 health tourism was a problem thanks to our 'no upper limit' government, but only now are serious steps supposedly being taken. General Election perchance?

BBC NEWS | Health | 'Health tourism' rules unveiled

New rules to prevent health tourism in UK Hospital Dr

Most of those immigrants pay taxes which pay for the NHS..

Are you saying that just because you are not a British national that you are not allowed to go to the hospital for which you have paid for in taxes? And how far back should we go? 1st generation, 2nd generation even if they are British citizens? How about Brits born in another country... they are after all not real Brits are they now!

Originally Posted by PeteEU

Most of those immigrants pay taxes which pay for the NHS..

Are you saying that just because you are not a British national that you are not allowed to go to the hospital for which you have paid for in taxes? And how far back should we go? 1st generation, 2nd generation even if they are British citizens? How about Brits born in another country... they are after all not real Brits are they now!

Actually, many immigrants here in Britain who are here illegally are being kept by the government, housed with your tax money, allowed to enter the country, are given benefits AND access to the NHS....this causes many billions of lost revenue a year, and is mounting huge pressure on social NHS services and the workforce in particular.

Obviously, only an idiot would oppose NHS for immigrants who pay taxes.

Originally Posted by MetalGear

Actually, many immigrants here in Britain who are here illegally are being kept by the government, housed with your tax money, allowed to enter the country, are given benefits AND access to the NHS....this causes many billions of lost revenue a year, and is mounting huge pressure on social NHS services and the workforce in particular.

Obviously, only an idiot would oppose NHS for immigrants who pay taxes.

I think it is pretty grim for illegal immigrants at the moment. I'm not an expert but I know a lot, if not all found illegal immigrants are now put in detention centres and we no longer allow anyone who does not have proof that they are in our system free health care - I am sure we would allow emergency but that is all.

On any hospital ward, the daily round of paperwork and form-filling vital to patient safety is staggering. Employing a ward clerk (an admin role) to do it frees up valuable nursing time to be spent nursing patients instead of sitting at a desk. "Oh Noes!" screams the Daily Heil, "Illegal immigrant administrators are taking over the inefficient killer spendthift NHS!"