Thread: Islamists now in Germany

Germans have known for some time that their country is a target for terror.

In 2006, two Lebanese men tried and failed to blow up German commuter trains with a bomb in a suitcase.

In recent years, Islamic militant groups abroad have posted regular video messages on the internet warning of imminent attacks on Germany. The motivation: Germany's military mission in Afghanistan.

But the plot uncovered in 2007 shocked Germans more than any other incident.

That's because it involved native Germans joining a jihad against the West.

Growing up in the city of Ulm, Fritz Gelowicz seemed no different from any other teenager. He enjoyed sports and played in the local American Football team, the Ulm Barracudas.

But he became drawn to radical Islam. He had contact with radical preachers at a local cultural centre which was later shut down. He converted to Islam.

On 5 September 2007, German TV broadcast pictures of Fritz Gelowicz handcuffed and being led towards a police helicopter. He was one of three men arrested at a holiday cottage in the Sauerland region of western Germany.

Also detained was Daniel Schneider, another German convert to Islam.

There was video, too, of what investigators had found in the cottage: barrels containing enough hydrogen peroxide to produce hundreds of kilograms of explosives.

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BBC News - Risk of attack remains for Germany

Looks like London isn't the only one...

I'm not sure how you can say "now". Atta lived in Hamburg and worked with others there, 10 years ago.

It would be interesting to know how many of these German Muslims had connections with the Neo-Nazis. Such would make interesting reading.

Neo-Nazi Al Qaeda

What the neo-Nazi fanatic did next: switched to Islam - Times Online

Nazi War Criminal Converts to Islam Before Death | Iranian.com

http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe...post1058600248 (Fallaci: "This is what I write about Europe..)



History repeats itself?

Muslim Converts in Germany: Angst-Ridden Germans Look for Answers -- And Find Them in the Koran - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

GERMANY REVERTS: GOES NAZI, REMOVES STAR OF DAVID FROM WINDOW - Atlas Shrugs


However, the good news should be that as Germany knows all about dealing with violent anti-semitic extremist doctrine from both sides of the fence, much can be done to halt this new menace.

Originally Posted by The_Penguin

BBC News - Risk of attack remains for Germany

Looks like London isn't the only one...

OMG....RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! The terrorists are coming....the terrorists are coming!

Please, what modern industrialized nation is going to escape the hate from less developed nations, especially ones embroiled in theocracy. Deal with it.

Originally Posted by Ikari

OMG....RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! The terrorists are coming....the terrorists are coming!

Please, what modern industrialized nation is going to escape the hate from less developed nations, especially ones embroiled in theocracy. Deal with it.

Most useless post I've seen this month... congrats.

Now go and think of something that will actually add value to the discussion.

Originally Posted by The_Penguin

Most useless post I've seen this month... congrats.

Now go and think of something that will actually add value to the discussion.

Doesn't say much, the month is only 4 days old. HAHAHAHAHA

The most useless posts are those still trying to drum up fear over terrorists. Idiots and buffoons the lot. There will always be terrorists so long as there are pissed off people with no voice. Deal with it. Running around like a chicken with its head cut off screaming about the sky falling every time there's some act of terrorism or attempt at it...now that's the most useless posts/actions ever.

Originally Posted by Ikari

The most useless posts are those still trying to drum up fear over terrorists.

An article high-lighting a serious social problem is now drumming up fear? Interesting...

Originally Posted by Ikari

Idiots and buffoons the lot. There will always be terrorists so long as there are pissed off people with no voice.

*sigh*

These men were white Germans, living in Germany with German passports and decided to side with lunatics and madmen. They're not from piss-poor hell-hole in the Middle East that gets dumped on by the local Pol Pot whenever the sun shines.

Originally Posted by Ikari

Running around like a chicken with its head cut off screaming about the sky falling every time there's some act of terrorism or attempt at it...now that's the most useless posts/actions ever.

I am? How do you figure? One article with one sentence. No exclamation points, no bold letters, no caps (except one.) What wondrous insights do you poses that enable you to extract these explanations from my words that not even I, the author, thought of while writing this? Really, do tell.

Do you want to know why I posted this before you jumped the gun and to an early conclusion? I want to know what motivates people that generally come from middle-class backgrounds (most terrorists are not from some ghetto that has no sanitation, they come from affluent backgrounds) to go to such extreme ideologies. I want to know about the psychological reasons what motivates such actions. That and curious what types of responses I would get from people.

Your crap of a post was expected.

Hitler admired Islam, and lamented that Germany was a Christian nation, at times. He felt that Islams warlike nature was more in keeping with his own vision for Germany, as opposed to a more pacifist Christianity.

Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum

Hitler admired Islam, and lamented that Germany was a Christian nation, at times. He felt that Islams warlike nature was more in keeping with his own vision for Germany, as opposed to a more pacifist Christianity.

what does Hitler have to do with this? ... and ...
"pacifist Christianity" ... are you serious? wow.

Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum

Hitler admired Islam, and lamented that Germany was a Christian nation, at times. He felt that Islams warlike nature was more in keeping with his own vision for Germany, as opposed to a more pacifist Christianity.

This is one of those cynical, old "let's link our opponent with Hitler" jibes. Just because a couple of self-appointed experts try to connect National Socialism with modern Islam doesn't make it so. I assume you are referring to this excuse for wasting trees...[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icon_of_Evil]Icon of Evil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

It's the oldest, and least intellectually credible, trick in the book. Shame on them and shame on you for resorting to the same lame rhetoric.