Thread: Fallaci: "This is what I write about Europe..

The great Oriana Fallaci (RIP). Right then. Right now.
About Islam, the EU, the West.
Part of a speech before the American Enterprise Institute on the eve of the publication of her book "The Rage and the Pride".
October 2002

How the West Was Won and How It Will Be Lost
also on the net as 'A Sermon for the West'

"...This is what I write about Europe: "Identical [are our] faults, the cowardices, the hypocrisies. Identical the blindness, the deafness, the lack of wisdom, the masochism.... Identical the ignorance and the lack of leadership that favors the Muslim invasion.
Identical the fad of the Politically Correct that encourages it.
To believe me, you only have to observe the financial club you proudly call European Union. A club that only serves to impose the rhetorical nonsense called common currency ... to pay fabulous and undeserved salaries (tax free) to the members of its inept and useless Parliament."

"A club that shelters more than 15 million sons of Allah and God knows how many of their terrorists ... A club that fornicates like a whore with the Arab countries and fills its pockets with their filthy petrodollars. The same petrodollars with which the Saudi Uncle Scrooges buy our ancient palaces, our banks, our commercial and industrial firms. A club, moreover, that dares to speak of cultural similarities with the Middle East.... [You] chatterers, you mentally retarded. Where the hell is the cultural similarity with the Middle East, you cretins, you silly clowns?!? At Mecca? At Bethlehem, at Gaza, at Damascus, at Beirut?!? At Cairo, at Tripoli, at Nairobi, at Tehran, at Baghdad, at Kabul?!?

"When I was very young, about 17 or so, I longed so much for a united Europe! I came from a war in which the [Europeans] had pitilessly slaughtered each other: remember? The damned Second World War. Plunged up to his neck in the brand-new struggle, my father preached the European Federalism.... He held rallies, he spoke to the crowds, he chanted: "Europe! Europe! We must make Europe!'"

"But this frustrating and disappointing and Insignificant financial club ... [with] its sons of Allah who want to erase my civilization, this European Union, which chatters of Cultural-Similarities-with-the-Middle-East and meanwhile ignores my beautiful language, meanwhile sacrifices my national identity, is not the Europe I dreamed of when my father chanted, Europe-Europe.
It is not Europe. It is the suicide of Europe."

de muzzlims are indevading, oh noes, dey will kill us all,we must ban burqas to stop thems, dont let dem muzzlims inna urop, dey dont belong, dey will impose shara law and stop that most non middle eastern religion ever, you know, christianity, its not like that has any relation to the middle east, but you then get these muslims in, and they'll do what, they'll all be terrorists, and blow these countries up, so they can impose sharia law, imagine that, a religion forcing its will on other people, those bloody muslims started it, damn them, and all this moving to europe, its gotta be to take it over, its not that the vast majority of muslim countries are a few centuries behind and they want to escape that, nah, they just wanna take over the world, how could they possibly be doing for there own safety when we all know that they're suicidal terrorists.

/rant off

Originally Posted by mbig

The great Oriana Fallaci (RIP). Right then. Right now.
About Islam, the EU, the West.
Part of a speech before the American Enterprise Institute on the eve of the publication of her book "The Rage and the Pride".
October 2002

How the West Was Won and How It Will Be Lost
also on the net as 'A Sermon for the West'

It's very sad how once sensible and rational people can become unhinged in later life through illness and depression. Even Christopher Hitchens, born-again Islamophobe, recognised Fallaci's inability to write rationally about Islam.

*Looks out window. Fails to see Muslim invasion*

Suppose I'll hold off on buying that used camel dealership for a while.

As to the author, it's in his name.

Fallacy

Originally Posted by Andalublue

It's very sad how once sensible and rational people can become unhinged in later life through illness and depression. Even Christopher Hitchens, born-again Islamophobe, recognised Fallaci's inability to write rationally about Islam.

On the Contrary.
She (News to Alvin above who doesn't even Know who Fallaci/"he" Is/Was! as clearly Spud-meister doesn't either), fought as a partisan against Fascism in her youth during WW2, and Fought it all her life.

Quite consistent to fight Islamo-Fascism. Not "unhinged" at all as she notes/connects ironically to more modern Europe herself in the excerp I posted.
She had started noting it many years before you called her "unhinged"; In famous Interviews with Kohmeini and Arafat.

As I've said several times on this board and others, there is a 'Generation gap', with most posters being too young so have any personal sense of history or knowledge.
At least andalublue had some sense of who she was and didn't make in Idiotic reply.
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Andalablue's one of the best textbook communists on here. He votes for them, damns the EU only on points of capitalism and slanders dissidents and dissenters as deranged. And using Peter Hitchens to prove a point is breathtakingly brazen.

It's a joy to read him and I love locking horns from time to time.

"The great" Oriana wasn't that great if her warnings to Europe are unknown to Europeans.

Originally Posted by mbig

On the Contrary.
She (News to Alvin above who doesn't even Know who Fallaci/"he" Is/Was! as clearly Spud-meister doesn't either), fought as a partisan against Fascism in her youth during WW2, and Fought it all her life.

And the rest of us Europeans didn't?......

Quite consistent to fight Islamo-Fascism. Not "unhinged" at all as she notes/connects ironically to more modern Europe herself in the excerp I posted.
She had started noting it many years before you called her "unhinged"; In famous Interviews with Kohmeini and Arafat.

Still waiting for her muslim invasion. I can get in on the ground floor here for that camel dealership!

As I've said several times on this board and others, there is a 'Generation gap', with most posters being too young so have any personal sense of history or knowledge.

And the other half dodginig senility?

At least andalublue had some sense of who she was and didn't make in Idiotic reply.
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You shouldn't have made an idiotic post. You reap what you sow.

Originally Posted by Manc Skipper

"The great" Oriana wasn't that great if her warnings to Europe are unknown to Europeans.

Oriana was known to some Europeans. Especially when she was off her meds.

Originally Posted by Manc Skipper

"The great" Oriana wasn't that great if her warnings to Europe are unknown to Europeans.

As you can see on this thread, and certainly elsewhere, there is a great deal of denial going on in Western Europe and the point that Mbig makes about younger Europeans is a a good one.

None of them had to fight for their freedom or national security. They know about the wars against Fascists and Nazis, of course, but its all history to them, not an ongoing process. They feel the battle has been won and they can all relax.

Further complicating the issue is that they don't know whether they are nationals first or Europeans first. Who do they fight for? I doubt there is one person living in Europe now who would fight and die for Europe. It's still little more than a concept, and any loyalty is only to that concept, not the reality.

Europe, because it has no direction and no sense of self, is ripe for the picking. Those who are arriving daily know it, as do those who are leaving. The rest will just muddle through, live in denail, and hope that if it gets really bad someone, somewhere, will come to their rescue.