Thread: Will the [UK] ever have a black Prime Minister?

Originally Posted by Andalublue

He was taking a jab at the previous poster who he (rightly or wrongly) thought was suggesting that the US system was superior in its racial awareness to the European or UK system.

He wasn't suggesting that at all, though Max's reply seems to suggest Europe would be the superior one who has moved beyond racism. Thats the tone i picked up anyway.

... but his statement that it is really not relevant what colour a president/prime minister might be is quite right, no?

I dont believe i disputed that fact.

Originally Posted by MetalGear

He wasn't suggesting that at all, though Max's reply seems to suggest Europe would be the superior one who has moved beyond racism. Thats the tone i picked up anyway.



I dont believe i disputed that fact.

Okay, you took against the tone of European superiority. Fair enough. Europe certainly has no right to feel superior in relation to racial equality. I suspect he wasn't really suggesting that... but maybe he was. Point taken.

Originally Posted by Andalublue

Okay, you took against the tone of European superiority. Fair enough. Europe certainly has no right to feel superior in relation to racial equality. I suspect he wasn't really suggesting that... but maybe he was. Point taken.

I could be wrong though i doubt it. Its hard to pick up on a users tone and intent in written form. I apologize if i am wrong.

Originally Posted by MetalGear

I could be wrong though i doubt it. Its hard to pick up on a users tone and intent in written form. I apologize if i am wrong.

No need for apologies. I can see how the tone felt wrong. However, going by his previous posts on other threads, I think MaxZe is one of the good guys, if perhaps a little Euro-centric. It's quite difficult not to be on DP though, isn't it? Sometimes I feel as if it's open season on Europe in almost every thread.

Originally Posted by Andalublue

No need for apologies. I can see how the tone felt wrong. However, going by his previous posts on other threads, I think MaxZe is one of the good guys, if perhaps a little Euro-centric. It's quite difficult not to be on DP though, isn't it? Sometimes I feel as if it's open season on Europe in almost every thread.

Its going through an extensive political change, its almost revolutionary but silent revolutionary, the type of revolution which doesnt manifest until decades down the line....we are doing something in Europe previously undone, everybody is excited.

The answer is yes, we already have one Gordon Brown.

I cant see anyone currently who is likely.However come on why this obsession with race? when Obama was elected i found it somewhat embarassing that people who knew nothing about politics thought it was such a great thing.

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If we did have a black PM, the howler-monkey noise from the Left would be overwhelming. 'Ooo, victory against racism and a blow for tolerance', etc. As in the US with Carter, a party could play the race card whenever criticism of the leadership gets too hot. But what of the policies?

When Margaret Thatcher came to power, people we now call PC choked on their breakfast lentils. She wasn't supposed to be a Tory! All that shouting and pushing people about in the name of womens' rights wasted! The first woman PM was supposed to be one of THEM, crusading against the evil forces of chauvanist maledom. I heard that argument a few times.

I look forward to the first black PM, not that we need one for colour, being a Tory. A sound one as well (not one like Sayeeda Warsi who puts herself out as heavy and morally conservative to her fellow Muslims but all trendy and progressive to the rest of us). He/she could go to the Proms and please Margaret Hodge. And it would really annoy the likes of Peter Tatchell to have a God-fearing, morally upright black person in charge, incensed as he is already at the 'racist' rules of Royal lineage not being able to give us a black monarch any time soon!

(And anyway, perhaps the question should be Should We Have A Black European Union President?! There are too many white people up there too you know!)

Originally Posted by MetalGear

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I love Europe and our Union, Maxie. But an intelligent, rational politician possesses the ability to look at oneself and think "we are no better than them. We need to improve".
This statement proves you are completely incapable of self criticism and that's why we will never move ahead as a Union.

No..

IN Europe we care about good policies. We dont give a sh** about the personality, nor the colour of the face of the uncorrupt or corrupt suit.