Thread: Will the [UK] ever have a black Prime Minister?

The Baroness Thatcher was a quarter black.

Originally Posted by Arch Enemy

The Baroness Thatcher was a quarter black.

No she wasnt?

Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker

Whereas US elections are decided by the people - the Prime Minister is not directly elected by the people, the Prime Minister is selected by the cabinet and is of the dominate party that holds the majority seat at that time.

I think it actually means something when the people within the system have the control and hand and chose not to.
Whereas in the US it's up to the individual candidate to get involved with politics and pursue a lengthy career, build rapport and gain support before campaigning for any seat is a possibility.

The UK Prime Minister has first to win selection to stand for election by the local branch of their party, for a particular constituency, and win election by the people as the local MP. They then have to be elected by his/her peers (other MP's, not Lords!) as the "first among equals" of the winning party. He/she will then appoint his/her cabinet from said group of elected MP's
Nobody gets to that point without developing a network of support over at least a decade, and more usually longer.

Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker

Will we ever have a black prime minister? - Beyond The Commons - Macleans.ca

I came across this while searching info for a thread and thought it was interesting - something I hadn't even thought of.

Who fu**ing cares if the prime minister is white/black/yellow/orange/brown/whatever. Lets just hope there is a better prime minister, no matter what colour, and lets hope people can look beyond such things as colour, which is obviously still a big issue in the US.

Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra

Who fu**ing cares if the prime minister is white/black/yellow/orange/brown/whatever. Lets just hope there is a better prime minister, no matter what colour, and lets hope people can look beyond such things as colour, which is obviously still a big issue in the US.

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I love Europe and our Union, Maxie. But an intelligent, rational politician possesses the ability to look at oneself and think "we are no better than them. We need to improve".
This statement proves you are completely incapable of self criticism and that's why we will never move ahead as a Union.

Max go and sort Africa out will ya, nay chance m8 dream land again,all they want to do is murder people and always will be,and y do we give them $

no no no,lets take care of our selves,as u no charity begins at home,y not.

mikeey

Metal u can have the EU,stick them in the sewers,the USA and the Scotland we

should have nothing to do with that shi-te for ever,all we need is this,



Australia New Zelanand Canada english speaking people thats the way to go,

because we have the the biggest fuc-ing gun,thats it.

sorry m8 problems solved.

mikeey

Originally Posted by MetalGear

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I love Europe and our Union, Maxie. But an intelligent, rational politician possesses the ability to look at oneself and think "we are no better than them. We need to improve".
This statement proves you are completely incapable of self criticism and that's why we will never move ahead as a Union.

Sorry MG, I don't understand your point. What did Maxie say that denied the desire to improve. What he said was, "who cares what colour you are if you can do the job". Why does that suggest he was being incapable of self-criticism?

And just to counter Aunt Spiker's point, she is clearly wishing a US presidential system on the UK. God helps us! A Presidential system has some benefits, but many, many more disadvantages. As far as I am concerned, a single human being is a poor basis for an entire polity. A country may be governed by a party (ideally more than one), but to be governed by one person and his appointees is a recipe for dictatorship, even if that dictatorship can be removed after 4 years.

Originally Posted by Andalublue

Sorry MG, I don't understand your point. What did Maxie say that denied the desire to improve. What he said was, "who cares what colour you are if you can do the job". Why does that suggest he was being incapable of self-criticism?

Read the bold part.
Maybe i interpreted it wrongly, but to me it has "racism is still a problem in the US" all over it as if its not in Europe.

Originally Posted by MetalGear

Read the bold part.
Maybe i interpreted it wrongly, but to me it has "racism is still a problem in the US" all over it as if its not in Europe.

He was taking a jab at the previous poster who he (rightly or wrongly) thought was suggesting that the US system was superior in its racial awareness to the European or UK system.

He may have been wrong to imply that racism is no longer an issue in Europe (I'm not sure he did), but his statement that it is really not relevant what colour a president/prime minister might be is quite right, no?