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Old 01-24-10, 07:19 AM   #1
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Ban on burqas receives strong public support in France

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Ban on burqas receives strong public support in France

A report drawn up by French MPs will this week call for a ban on Afghan-style burqas and other garments that cover a woman’s face.

The proposal has strong public support. According to an opinion poll by Ipsos for the magazine Le Point, 57% of voters favour a ban while 37% are opposed.

The recommendations of a parliamentary commission, to be published on Tuesday, are expected to include a bar on wearing full veils on public transport and in schools, hospitals and public-sector offices including post offices. The commission is thought likely to call for a total ban after further consultation.

President Nicolas Sarkozy launched a debate on veils last June, telling a special sitting of both houses of parliament that they were “not welcome” in France. He said last week the full veil was “contrary to our values and to the ideals we have of women’s dignity”.


Ban on burqas receives strong public support in France - Times Online
So now after the majority of Belgium and Switzerland's populations support the banning on minarets, the majority of the French people support the ban on the blanket known as Burqa.

Interesting.
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Re: Ban on burqas receives strong public support in France

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So now after the majority of Belgium and Switzerland's populations support the banning on minarets, the majority of the French people support the ban on the blanket known as Burqa.

Interesting.
Interesting how the two cultures express their desire to constrain Islam; Switzerland, with an architectural ban and France with a fashion ban.

If France care so much about 'women's dignity', they would ban pornography and other demeaning and exploitative things towards women.

I think they should be more honest about their intent. It's not to protect woman's dignity, its a statement about right-winged, ultraconservative Islam, and that it's unwelcome in France.
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Re: Ban on burqas receives strong public support in France

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Interesting how the two cultures express their desire to constrain Islam; Switzerland, with an architectural ban and France with a fashion ban.

If France care so much about 'women's dignity', they would ban pornography and other demeaning and exploitative things towards women.

I think they should be more honest about their intent. It's not to protect woman's dignity, its a statement about right-winged, ultraconservative Islam, and that it's unwelcome in France.
So be it.............
It's about time that the western world recognize Islam for the evil it is & ban it outright......
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Re: Ban on burqas receives strong public support in France

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Interesting how the two cultures express their desire to constrain Islam; Switzerland, with an architectural ban and France with a fashion ban.

If France care so much about 'women's dignity', they would ban pornography and other demeaning and exploitative things towards women.

I think they should be more honest about their intent. It's not to protect woman's dignity, its a statement about right-winged, ultraconservative Islam, and that it's unwelcome in France.
Actually, no.

Pornography, the model industry and so forth don't require women to do anything that they don't want to do.
Burqa's are not a 'fashion' statement - they are a demanded part of a religion and a culture.

Huge difference.

There isn't a single culture or religion out there (that I can think of) in which pornography and so forth is a 'required' part of being a well rounded or accepted individual.

Pornography, modeling, prostitution = a freedom of choice and strongly related to opinion.
Burqas and hijabs are not.

So to many people these things represent oppression and subjugation, not freedom and an individual choice - and thus, they hate it.
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Re: Ban on burqas receives strong public support in France

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Interesting how the two cultures express their desire to constrain Islam; Switzerland, with an architectural ban and France with a fashion ban.

If France care so much about 'women's dignity', they would ban pornography and other demeaning and exploitative things towards women.

I think they should be more honest about their intent. It's not to protect woman's dignity, its a statement about right-winged, ultraconservative Islam, and that it's unwelcome in France.
France also condemns forced prostitution
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Re: Ban on burqas receives strong public support in France

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So be it.............
It's about time that the western world recognize Islam for the evil it is & ban it outright......
Can we also ban evil christianity while we're about it?

All religions have their dark, evil sides. While banning them is appealing, it's probably not the intelligent answer.
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Re: Ban on burqas receives strong public support in France

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Can we also ban evil christianity while we're about it?

All religions have their dark, evil sides. While banning them is appealing, it's probably not the intelligent answer.
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Re: Ban on burqas receives strong public support in France

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Actually, no.

Pornography, the model industry and so forth don't require women to do anything that they don't want to do.
Burqa's are not a 'fashion' statement - they are a demanded part of a religion and a culture.

Huge difference.

There isn't a single culture or religion out there (that I can think of) in which pornography and so forth is a 'required' part of being a well rounded or accepted individual.

Pornography, modeling, prostitution = a freedom of choice and strongly related to opinion.
Burqas and hijabs are not.

So to many people these things represent oppression and subjugation, not freedom and an individual choice - and thus, they hate it.

Wouldn't banning burqas be a sign of oppression and subjugation?


I don't think I am following the story accurately. The clothing shown in the article is not the Burqa,

This is the Burqa

They're distinctly blue because it's the Taliban's creation.

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Interesting how the two cultures express their desire to constrain Islam; Switzerland, with an architectural ban and France with a fashion ban.
I think you have it backwards. I don't think it is a desire to constrain Islam, but a desire to preserve French and Swiss, respectively.

For the Nationalist Frenchmen and women who are sensitive to history, then the Algerian War of Independence still might be a sore-spot. The full-veil in Algeria was used by the FLA multiple times to smuggle members from one part of Algiers to another, usually setting up attacks.
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Re: Ban on burqas receives strong public support in France

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So now after the majority of Belgium and Switzerland's populations support the banning on minarets, the majority of the French people support the ban on the blanket known as Burqa.

Interesting.
I think broadly banning religious expression is dangerous.

How about banning murder instead?
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I think broadly banning religious expression is dangerous.

How about banning murder instead?
Burqa is not religious, its cultural. Like polygamy
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